Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 264

sleepyEDB · Feb 06 2007, 12:51 PM

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...It basically has the stability of a Roc with the carry of a Shark.

drooooooooool...

sleepy

JHBlader86 · Feb 06 2007, 02:29 PM

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Hi Dave,
I just got some of the new MD-1s from Mark M. They look kind of like Rocs, but I'm not sure when I'll get to throw one. It's zero degrees here in Indiana with a snow storm coming.
Can you please tell us a little about the design. I think the nose is a little different than most Rocs.
Thanks,
Axis

The structure is more like a Shark than a Roc. It flies more like a Roc, than a Shark. It basically has the stability of a Roc with the carry of a Shark.

This disc sounds very interesting. Anyway to post pics of it? Also, is the rim thick and deep like a Gator or Spider or thin like the Shark and Roc? I simply cannot throw thin rim midranges due to my long fingers.

Greatzky2 · Feb 06 2007, 02:56 PM

I have long fingers as well, but i prefer smaller rimmed midranges.. I throw tons of Stingrays and buzzzes and I feel that I get a better release that way. It's all about how it feels in your hands though. Good thing the great people at the disc golf companies make so many different discs to fit all different feels and styles!!

-Scott Lewis

Boneman · Feb 06 2007, 03:07 PM

The rim of the MD1 is like a shark.

tokyo · Feb 06 2007, 05:08 PM

Hey Dave I bought a First Run Skeeter DX style and loved it. It fit perfectly for me in between a Gator and Panter, but I was wondering how the Star's will fly compared to the DX plastic??

davei · Feb 06 2007, 05:18 PM

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Hey Dave I bought a First Run Skeeter DX style and loved it. It fit perfectly for me in between a Gator and Panter, but I was wondering how the Star's will fly compared to the DX plastic??

I think the Star is slightly less stable new, but maintains its flight characteristic longer.

Erroneous · Feb 06 2007, 05:46 PM

Dave, just curious if there was a schedule of disc to be run in run in Pro plastic. Coyotes, TeeRexs, Maxs, Rocs would all be rad in pro line.

citysmasher · Feb 06 2007, 08:15 PM

Dave, I just wanted to thank you for the Star Gator. This disc is SICK!!! I think it is shorter Whippet. It also does not appear to be changing with age. Just out....gliiiiiiiiiiddddeeeee.....turn left, SKIP!!!!

Left turn Clyde!!!! Thanks Dave.

citysmasher · Feb 06 2007, 08:16 PM

Is there such a thing as a Star X Out? Or are you just regrinding the plastic and reusing it?

gwailo · Feb 06 2007, 08:59 PM

Oh look, Star X-outs

davidbihl · Feb 06 2007, 09:06 PM

Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

citysmasher · Feb 06 2007, 09:08 PM

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Oh look, Star X-outs

Sweet!!!

Ask and ye shall receive brothers...

JRauch · Feb 06 2007, 09:11 PM

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Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

There are champion SLs as well. Also they have the more stable starfires (x mold) in star, champion, and soon to be dx plastic.

davidbihl · Feb 06 2007, 09:14 PM

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Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

There are champion SLs as well. Also they have the more stable starfires (x mold) in star, champion, and soon to be dx plastic.

Yeah that is cool but what version of the starfire was made in pro plastic. thanks JRauch

JRauch · Feb 06 2007, 10:34 PM

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Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

There are champion SLs as well. Also they have the more stable starfires (x mold) in star, champion, and soon to be dx plastic.

Yeah that is cool but what version of the starfire was made in pro plastic. thanks JRauch

Oh.. Just the SL the less stable version of the Starfire. They came out with this model first so they just named it the starfire, then the Starfire X came out (never in the Pro plastic though) and they renamed the original the Starfire L or the SL (they just never changed the hotstamp on the Pro Starfires).

davidbihl · Feb 06 2007, 10:38 PM

thanks very mucho...re-reading my question, it was kinda, well, not worded right.

circle_2 · Feb 07 2007, 09:44 AM

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Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

There are champion SLs as well. Also they have the more stable starfires (x mold) in star, champion, and soon to be dx plastic.

Yeah that is cool but what version of the starfire was made in pro plastic. thanks JRauch

Oh.. Just the SL the less stable version of the Starfire. They came out with this model first so they just named it the starfire, then the Starfire X came out (never in the Pro plastic though) and they renamed the original the Starfire L or the SL (they just never changed the hotstamp on the Pro Starfires).

I thought the original Starfires that were available in the CFR program were not 'Ls'...(?)

davei · Feb 07 2007, 09:55 AM

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Dave, just curious if there was a schedule of disc to be run in run in Pro plastic. Coyotes, TeeRexs, Maxs, Rocs would all be rad in pro line.

The only discs scheduled to be run in Pro driver plastic are Starfires and Wraiths.

davei · Feb 07 2007, 09:59 AM

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Hello Dave

I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one)
thanks
dav

Pro Starfires are L only.

thetruthxl · Feb 07 2007, 10:19 AM

DLux-
The first starfires that came in the CFR program back in 2003(?) were the "L" mold. Then the pro version, then the CFR "X&L" versions, then champion of both, then star of both. Whoa.

the_beastmaster · Feb 07 2007, 10:50 AM

I thought the very, very first CFR Starfires were a mold that they didn't really like, but was more similar to the L. They tweaked that mold to make the L, and later made the X. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, but this has been discussed before and I think I'm remembering correctly.

davei · Feb 07 2007, 10:56 AM

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I thought the very, very first CFR Starfires were a mold that they didn't really like, but was more similar to the L. They tweaked that mold to make the L, and later made the X. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, but this has been discussed before and I think I'm remembering correctly.

Yes, this is correct.

jaymo · Feb 07 2007, 11:06 AM

Hey Dave, at my local shop I found a Pro FB..

how many of these did you make?

I thought they were all FL mold in the pro plastic... it's definitely a FB mold too, it's got the concave rim and all.

is this just a weirdo disc?

Karma Police · Feb 07 2007, 12:17 PM

Speaking of the FB.... Zonedriven Pro FB

davei · Feb 07 2007, 12:57 PM

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Hey Dave, at my local shop I found a Pro FB..

how many of these did you make?

I thought they were all FL mold in the pro plastic... it's definitely a FB mold too, it's got the concave rim and all.

is this just a weirdo disc?

If it is the regular X mold, it is either a mistake or a very old one.

doot · Feb 07 2007, 01:20 PM

Hey Dave ~

I see Innova no longer stocks the Bulldog, and upon further research, I see its "functional replacement" is the Hydra. I've found the Hydra's DX plastic to be much slicker than the Bulldog, and slightly less stable (havent thrown the Hydra enough though..)

Any chance we could see the Bulldog in JK Pro (aka soft Rhyno) or Star plastic? Don't necessarily need a floater, just a beefy overstable disc that's either softer or less slick.

- doot

davei · Feb 07 2007, 02:09 PM

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Hey Dave ~

I see Innova no longer stocks the Bulldog, and upon further research, I see its "functional replacement" is the Hydra. I've found the Hydra's DX plastic to be much slicker than the Bulldog, and slightly less stable (havent thrown the Hydra enough though..)

Any chance we could see the Bulldog in JK Pro (aka soft Rhyno) or Star plastic? Don't necessarily need a floater, just a beefy overstable disc that's either softer or less slick.

- doot

Star, Champion, or Pro are not options, but grippier/softer is. Only DX plastic can be used in either the Bulldog or Hydra, but we can make it grippier.

DSproAVIAR · Feb 07 2007, 02:26 PM

Dave, how are the DX BBs working out?

doot · Feb 07 2007, 02:27 PM

Thanks for responding Dave..

Anxiously looking forward to seeing grippier DX Bulldogs/Hydras/Hydradogs/Bullhydras in the future..Thanks for considering it!!

Regards,

Frederick Doot

davei · Feb 07 2007, 02:53 PM

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Dave, how are the DX BBs working out?

They're in the custom hot stamping program. But, I don't know how they are being recieved yet. I haven't heard many reviews yet.

Feb 06 2007, 02:56 PM	#7893
Greatzky2 Community Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 379	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here! I have long fingers as well, but i prefer smaller rimmed midranges.. I throw tons of Stingrays and buzzzes and I feel that I get a better release that way. It's all about how it feels in your hands though. Good thing the great people at the disc golf companies make so many different discs to fit all different feels and styles!! -Scott Lewis

Feb 06 2007, 03:07 PM	#7894
Boneman Community Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 915	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here! The rim of the MD1 is like a shark.

Feb 06 2007, 05:08 PM	#7895
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here! Hey Dave I bought a First Run Skeeter DX style and loved it. It fit perfectly for me in between a Gator and Panter, but I was wondering how the Star's will fly compared to the DX plastic?? __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Feb 06 2007, 05:46 PM	#7897
Erroneous PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin Posts: 922	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here! Dave, just curious if there was a schedule of disc to be run in run in Pro plastic. Coyotes, TeeRexs, Maxs, Rocs would all be rad in pro line.

Feb 06 2007, 08:15 PM	#7898
citysmasher Community Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 479	Star Gator Dave, I just wanted to thank you for the Star Gator. This disc is SICK!!! I think it is shorter Whippet. It also does not appear to be changing with age. Just out....gliiiiiiiiiiddddeeeee.....turn left, SKIP!!!! Left turn Clyde!!!! Thanks Dave.

Feb 06 2007, 08:16 PM	#7899
citysmasher Community Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 479	Star X Out Is there such a thing as a Star X Out? Or are you just regrinding the plastic and reusing it?

Feb 06 2007, 08:59 PM	#7900
gwailo Membership Expired Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: No.VA Posts: 34	Re: Star X Out Oh look, Star X-outs __________________ Throw discs everyday

Feb 06 2007, 09:06 PM	#7901
davidbihl PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Clarkston, Mi Posts: 199	re:starfires Hello Dave I was curious, were pro starfires made in any other version than the star sl, or were they made in the other starfire mold? ( the more overstable one) thanks dav

Feb 06 2007, 10:38 PM	#7906
davidbihl PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Clarkston, Mi Posts: 199	Re: re:starfires thanks very mucho...re-reading my question, it was kinda, well, not worded right.

Feb 07 2007, 10:19 AM	#7910
thetruthxl Community Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home of the 2008 Worlds Posts: 973	Re: re:starfires DLux- The first starfires that came in the CFR program back in 2003(?) were the "L" mold. Then the pro version, then the CFR "X&L" versions, then champion of both, then star of both. Whoa.

Feb 07 2007, 10:50 AM	#7911
the_beastmaster Community Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: tyler - the enchanted forest Posts: 607	Re: re:starfires I thought the very, very first CFR Starfires were a mold that they didn't really like, but was more similar to the L. They tweaked that mold to make the L, and later made the X. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, but this has been discussed before and I think I'm remembering correctly.

Feb 07 2007, 11:06 AM	#7913
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: ask Dave D about Innova here!! Hey Dave, at my local shop I found a Pro FB.. how many of these did you make? I thought they were all FL mold in the pro plastic... it's definitely a FB mold too, it's got the concave rim and all. is this just a weirdo disc? __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Feb 07 2007, 12:17 PM	#7914
Karma Police PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisco Posts: 644	Re: ask Dave D about Innova here!! Speaking of the FB.... Zonedriven Pro FB

Feb 07 2007, 01:20 PM	#7916
doot Membership Expired Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 406	Re: ask Dave D about Innova here!! Hey Dave ~ I see Innova no longer stocks the Bulldog, and upon further research, I see its "functional replacement" is the Hydra. I've found the Hydra's DX plastic to be much slicker than the Bulldog, and slightly less stable (havent thrown the Hydra enough though..) Any chance we could see the Bulldog in JK Pro (aka soft Rhyno) or Star plastic? Don't necessarily need a floater, just a beefy overstable disc that's either softer or less slick. - doot __________________ 2008 - Rutgers Ice Bowl, J-Park Ice Bowl, Campgaw Ice Bowl, Kisco Ice Bowl, J-Park Jammer, J-Park Ace Race, and a sanctioned 2-day Hyzer/J-Park Battle. Fantasy Disc Golf too!

Feb 07 2007, 02:26 PM	#7918
DSproAVIAR PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skillet Posts: 2,506	Re: ask Dave D about Innova here!! Dave, how are the DX BBs working out?

Feb 07 2007, 02:27 PM	#7919
doot Membership Expired Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 406	Re: ask Dave D about Innova here!! Thanks for responding Dave.. Anxiously looking forward to seeing grippier DX Bulldogs/Hydras/Hydradogs/Bullhydras in the future..Thanks for considering it!! Regards, Frederick Doot __________________ 2008 - Rutgers Ice Bowl, J-Park Ice Bowl, Campgaw Ice Bowl, Kisco Ice Bowl, J-Park Jammer, J-Park Ace Race, and a sanctioned 2-day Hyzer/J-Park Battle. Fantasy Disc Golf too!

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