Old Oct 30 2006, 02:01 PM   #6901
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Selling more than 2000 per year.

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Is that all?

How long would you guesstimate it took to move the Champions?
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Old Oct 30 2006, 04:06 PM   #6902
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Selling more than 2000 per year.
Is that all?

How long would you guesstimate it took to move the Champions?
I know a couple of guys that would buy a couple of hundred of them...if they were rams!
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Old Oct 30 2006, 04:34 PM   #6903
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I have had a few dozen folks ask me if and when this disc will come out ? 165 -174 grams.

If so,
I gotta get my hands on a few of these ................
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Old Oct 30 2006, 04:48 PM   #6904
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I gotta get my hands on a few of these ................


If the star whippet is as big a letdown as the star monster, who would want one.

forget this "L" stuff and make some real discs.

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Old Oct 30 2006, 04:58 PM   #6905
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I gotta get my hands on a few of these ................


If the star whippet is as big a letdown as the star monster, who would want one.

forget this "L" stuff and make some real discs.

STAR RAMS STAR RAMS STAR RAMS
I second that...I have 4 CH Whippets with 2 in my bag and love them. A Star WX will be great.

I've never thrown a Ram, but you've peaked my interest. What do they feel like in the hand? Beaded? Domey?
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Old Oct 30 2006, 05:08 PM   #6906
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How do Champ Whippets feel in the hand? I just picked up some KC Whippets and they are very domey. I like the overstableness, but have never liked domey discs.
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Old Oct 30 2006, 05:10 PM   #6907
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I've never thrown a Ram, .... What do they feel like in the hand? Beaded? Domey?
i haven't thrown one either, but from what i've heard when you pick one up it pulls your hand left & downward! (RHBH)
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Old Oct 30 2006, 05:14 PM   #6908
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I have had a few dozen folks ask me if and when this disc will come out ? 165 -174 grams.

If so,
I gotta get my hands on a few of these ................


If the star whippet is as big a letdown as the star monster, who would want one.
Well , for myself , the Whippet has always been overstable.

Ram is just too much. If you like the Ram , you would like the Original Phoenix. Those are the Original Overstable War Weapons.

forget this "L" stuff and make some real discs.

STAR RAMS STAR RAMS STAR RAMS

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There is a few that would throw a Star Ram.

But I need a Fast , Overstable TeeBird TB.
My Champion Teebird is starting to wear out.
A Star Whippet is what I need for specific shots.

Try a Original 185 Phoenix. That plastic is just about Indestructible !!!!
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Old Oct 30 2006, 05:27 PM   #6909
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The ram isnt beaded, its whole wing is practically a notch w/ a big abrupt bend in it. Too overstable for me
I have to say less overstable than a demon, more overstable than a whippet
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Old Oct 30 2006, 06:42 PM   #6910
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l when you get a demon beat in though its the bomb or just even a blaze.
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Old Oct 30 2006, 07:56 PM   #6911
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The ram has more glide than the whippet IMO.
Most whippets I've thrown have been very close to the CFR WhippetX. I don't care for the WhipX or the CFR viper. Nothing like a good ram.
The ram feel like a birdie in your hand.

Dave, sounds like we've got more ram fans than you thought, heh?
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Old Oct 30 2006, 08:07 PM   #6912
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Heck I used to love the Ram [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 30 2006, 08:27 PM   #6913
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I never threw the rams but the only mid i used to throw were pro classic rocs
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Old Oct 30 2006, 08:35 PM   #6914
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I still like the Whippet. Maybe they will make both ?

Unless you can find me a Star Teebird TB XX ?
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Old Oct 31 2006, 12:39 AM   #6915
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I have to say less overstable than a demon, more overstable than a whippet
l when you get a demon beat in though its the bomb or just even a blaze.
I like both, but still think i perfer a spirit or a Z pred for all the same shots, I think I can manipulate the flight of them more.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 01:42 AM   #6916
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We are definitely going to run Star BB. Probably soon. If we do any Whippet Xs, it will be Star and will go into the tournament program and stay there unless it has mass appeal.


Hi Dave,

Just out of curiosity, what is "mass appeal" ?
Selling more than 2000 per year.

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Hmmm, should I put in a pre-order on 2000 Star Zephyr,..... or not ?
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Old Oct 31 2006, 06:53 AM   #6917
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I still like the Whippet. Maybe they will make both ?

Unless you can find me a Star Teebird TB XX ?
Stiffer, max weight Star TBs are fast and overstable. Same with the Champion Glow TB. Champion TBs are the SSSLLLOWWWESTT TBs ever. A fast TB needs a dense polymer that does not expand too much when cooling.

Star Monster a letdown? Don't let them mess with you Dave, the Star Monster is AWESOME. It lives up to the Distance Driver title. If you want a more overstable version buy the Champion, or an older Champion X. Why would you want the Star to be more overstable, its just going to break in anyway. You can make a disc more overstable, especially a Monster, by throwing it with more hyzer angle. If a disc is too overstable, you can't make it less so by throwing it differently.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 10:36 AM   #6918
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Old Oct 31 2006, 02:16 PM   #6919
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I've seen "nightshift" Orcs on ebay that are made of a more opaque plastic.
What I was wondering is are there any other runs of discs that were experimenting with other plastics.
I just picked up a Champion Teebird that is very opaque, with a thin flexible flight plane. I doesn't look or fell like any other champion Teebirds I've come across. I feels like some of the KC Pro Teebirds I've seen in the white/creamy plastic.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 02:42 PM   #6920
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Has the new, new, new Tour bag or Champion bag out for sale yet?

I do remember you saying it was being tested for material etc...


Let me know I was interested in buying one.
Yes. The East office is carrying the Champion. Both coasts have the new, new, new Tour.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 02:44 PM   #6921
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Selling more than 2000 per year.
Is that all?

How long would you guesstimate it took to move the Champions?

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Champion Whippets? If so, I don't have a clue.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 03:46 PM   #6922
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Hey Dave

I had a disc golf tournament last saturday with the glow rounds. It came to my head about the wraiths and tee rex

any plans on CFR glow Wraiths and TeeRex in the future??

if so, I ll be the first on the list to order CFR for our Wisinois Deaf Disc Golf Fund Raising.

Thanks in advance

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Old Oct 31 2006, 04:13 PM   #6923
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Dave,
Any chance you could make glow Rhynos? I'll take Glow DX or Glow Candy. Thanks.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 04:31 PM   #6924
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So the newest or mainstream best bag is call the CHAMPION correct? And you are saying it is available for purchase now?

Are there any new pictures up yet?

I'm looking to know for a future purchase for my B-day that just past.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 04:52 PM   #6925
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The new Champion Bags should be available for purchase by the first of December. The new Tour bags are available for purchase now.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 05:03 PM   #6926
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Old Oct 31 2006, 05:47 PM   #6927
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I had a disc golf tournament last saturday with the glow rounds. It came to my head about the wraiths and tee rex

any plans on CFR glow Wraiths and TeeRex in the future??

if so, I ll be the first on the list to order CFR for our Wisinois Deaf Disc Golf Fund Raising.

Thanks in advance

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Yes, there is a chance for both, but no promises until we catch up with regular inventory and projects already scheduled.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 05:52 PM   #6928
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Glow candy maybe. Maybe glow I-dye.
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Old Oct 31 2006, 05:59 PM   #6929
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Glow candy maybe. Maybe glow I-dye.
YES!!!!! Let me know when they are ready!
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Old Nov 01 2006, 02:04 AM   #6930
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Any plans to make a cfr t rex? I'm one of the few who still love the champion plastic and can't stand the star but will deal with the pro. I'd also like to see more champion glow plastic in regular production or cfr glow wraith or t rex. I would have my whole bag champion glow if u made it on a regular basis--by far the best plastic you have ever made!!! Keep up the good work, innova for life.
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