Old Oct 21 2006, 10:17 PM   #6841
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I am looking for information on what I was told to be a Cheetah 2 proto in what feels like the original KC/SE plastic. These had star stamps like the SE Banshees from around '95 with no indication on them to let you know the model. The profile of the disc is Cheetahesque, but leaning towards a Valkyrie. Do you remember these? Thanks in advance.
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Old Oct 22 2006, 06:52 AM   #6842
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Any word on when Innova will announce the September CFR reward winners?
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Old Oct 22 2006, 09:51 PM   #6843
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Bellinger edged out Boyce.
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Old Oct 23 2006, 08:37 AM   #6844
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Here are the September CFR winners. They should be posted on the INNOVA site soon:

Innova T-Shirt - Jeff P - Rosewell, GA
3-Pack Newly Released Discs - Jeff B - Angwin, CA
3-Disc INNOVA Training Set - Khyber E - Wilseyville, CA
USDGC DVD - Michael R - Sunriver, OR
2006 USDGC Partners Pack - Brian F - Covington, KY
DISCatcherŽ Mini Target - Donny O - San Diego, CA
Champions DVD - Bill MH - Redlands, CA
INNOVA Merchandise Pack - Kevin R - Montgomery, AL
2005 Champions Signature Disc - RT - San Antonio, TX
DISCatcherŽ Traveler Target - Matt - El Cerrito, CA
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Old Oct 23 2006, 09:29 AM   #6845
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thanks for the info Dave. i think if more sellers carried Millenium they would move a lot more discs as their designer (Dave Dunipace) is top notch

i emailed John/Millenium several weeks ago about when SMS's might be released but have yet to receive any reply...

i just traded for some Sirius Orion LS's and can't wait to try them out in the niche between my Champ Roadrunners and Champ & Star (SB) Orcs... (although i also carry a Star TL)

what numbers would you assign the SOLS?

In addition to employing Innova (you) as the designer of its discs, does Millenium (John) use Innova to manufacture their discs and is that why they say INNOVA on the bottom?

also, if that is the case, is it difficult working in runs of Sirius discs with all the Star molds on queue?
SOLS are 9,5,-1,2. Yes, we manufacture for Millennium. In the past we have also manufactured for DGA and Wham-0.

Some Millennium molds are easy to work in queue, and some aren't. The Omega,MS, and JLS are easy to get in. The drivers are more difficult.
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Old Oct 23 2006, 09:50 AM   #6846
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I recently purchased a 174g Hydra. Are there any plans to make either the Dragon or another driver as heavy as the Hydra, while still being able to float?
Yes, but we haven't gotten to it yet.
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Old Oct 23 2006, 01:15 PM   #6847
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In the past we have also manufactured for DGA and Wham-0.
Dave, is this why Scott Martin is allowed to putt with a 86 Softie?
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Old Oct 23 2006, 02:50 PM   #6848
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Whamo must be neutral ground, Discraft lets Larry Labond putt with an 86 softie as well.
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Old Oct 23 2006, 03:11 PM   #6849
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Dave, is this why Scott Martin is allowed to putt with a 86 Softie?
The 86 is produced by Discovering the World now. It's a grandfathered disc.
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Old Oct 23 2006, 03:18 PM   #6850
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Dave,

Are you phasing out the TL in the Pro plastic? It doesn't seem to be readily available except in the 174-175 range.
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Old Oct 24 2006, 07:15 AM   #6851
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Are you phasing out the TL in the Pro plastic? It doesn't seem to be readily available except in the 174-175 range.
Yes, we are phasing out the Pro TL in favor of the Star TL.
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Old Oct 24 2006, 07:45 AM   #6852
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Are you phasing out the TL in the Pro plastic? It doesn't seem to be readily available except in the 174-175 range.
Yes, we are phasing out the Pro TL in favor of the Star TL.
That makes sense, the Pro got really flippy relatively fast. Star TLs take a while to break in, especially to get them flippy.
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Old Oct 24 2006, 08:56 AM   #6853
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I bought up a years supply of the ProLine TL's a month ago. They are the coolest turnover disc I've ever thrown. Like a 50% longer beaten in Roc, I can throw them hard and high and they will turn over at the apex and then just glide absolutely straight forever (almost no low speed fade). I will miss the TLs and hopefully in a year at least one of my Star TL's will be really flippy.
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Old Oct 24 2006, 05:29 PM   #6854
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Are thier and monster X in star plastic. I throw my star monster alot but its just not the same as my champ monster x
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Old Oct 24 2006, 06:37 PM   #6855
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Are thier any monster X's in star plastic. I throw my star monster alot but its just not the same as my champ monster x
that looks better
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Old Oct 24 2006, 09:49 PM   #6856
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Are thier any monster X's in star plastic. I throw my star monster alot but its just not the same as my champ monster x
that looks better
Come on, you can do better! There are still four errors, nine if you count capitilization.

On topic, Dave, Will the Monster X be made in Star plastic? In the CFR program possibly?
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Old Oct 24 2006, 09:54 PM   #6857
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their should be 'there' ... the period after plastic should be a question mark ... alot should be 'a lot' ... there should be a comma after a lot ... its should be it's ...

still, the first edit did make it more reader friendly
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Old Oct 24 2006, 10:10 PM   #6858
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"a lot" is not properly used here. The only time this phrase should be used is when reffering to an actual lot (such as a lot of land).
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Old Oct 24 2006, 10:17 PM   #6859
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"a lot" is not properly used here. The only time this phrase should be used is when reffering to an actual lot (such as a lot of land).
for example: Donny O. has a lot of Aviars (they could fill a lot of land) [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 24 2006, 10:20 PM   #6860
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I apologize for continuing this off-topic discussion, but the usage of “a lot” is correct. In fact, if you're suggesting that “alot” should be used, it doesn’t even exist as a word.
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Old Oct 24 2006, 10:30 PM   #6861
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i had to read it again but it turns out JR isn't saying 'alot' is a word or that the correct spelling of a lot is alot (it isn't). he is saying one should not say 'i throw Monsters a lot', but one could say 'i own a lot of Monsters -- or -- 'i frequently throw Monsters.'

in other words, one shouldn't use 'a lot' if one means often.

( a lot should be used to describe quantity -- not frequency)
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Old Oct 24 2006, 11:06 PM   #6862
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So yeah, how about those Innova discs, huh?! I like them a lot. [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 24 2006, 11:10 PM   #6863
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Happy Birthday -- i hope you get a lot of Innova discs
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Old Oct 24 2006, 11:11 PM   #6864
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Hey Dave To the exact model what is the most overstable driver that you make?
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Old Oct 25 2006, 08:14 AM   #6865
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Are thier and monster X in star plastic. I throw my star monster alot but its just not the same as my champ monster x
I believe all the Star Monsters were L type.
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Old Oct 25 2006, 08:16 AM   #6866
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On topic, Dave, Will the Monster X be made in Star plastic? In the CFR program possibly?
Possibly, but not for a while. Maybe next year.
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Old Oct 25 2006, 08:20 AM   #6867
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Hey Dave To the exact model what is the most overstable driver that you make?
That we currently make, probably Monster X. We have had Viper Xs, which were pretty overstable too. I would imagine the MaxX, would be pretty overstable too. Whippet X is a candidate too. Ram X would be way overstable, and might take the cake.
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Old Oct 25 2006, 09:23 AM   #6868
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So by chance anyone have the CFR Winners List for Octobers winners yet?

Thanks..
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Drawings are held on the last Tuesday of the month. There is still one week to go.
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Old Oct 25 2006, 11:51 AM   #6870
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Oops jumped the gun Sue. Forgot the 31st is last Tuesday of month.
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