Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[MTL21676]

very true.....sounds like shark and yote on the only ones though.

[Erroneous]

Star Monster is less stable than Champion too, hmmm

[veganray]

STAR Gremlin less overstable than Proline (Champion).

[davei]

I was looking at the list of PDGA approved discs on the website, and I don't see the Gremlin listed. Any idea why? Are these not legal for tourney play? Did I just miss it?

They were approved as the Sniper. I don't know why they are not also listed as the Gremlin.

[davei]

Hello Dave,

I was wondering what the chances were for a more overstable version of the Coyote? Like a Coyote-X or something a little beefier with the same mold. Also, why does it seem the Star version is more straight-stable than the Champion? In all other Star discs Ive thrown, it seems to be opposite.

Thanks!

There is no Coyote X, but there is a Coyote L. The X version would be a Shark or Roc or even closer, an Aurora MS.
I don't know why the Star and Champion come out different sometimes. I believe the Sidewinders were a little more stable in Star vs. Champion. Sharks were way too stable in Champion but very good in Star. I really never know which way it is going to go until it gets made.

[veganray]

When one blurs the line between art & science, results (thankfully) are often quite unpredictable.

STAR Gremlin less overstable than Proline (Champion).

They are different molds, which is probably the reason for the difference. The STAR does not have the priceless bead that was included in the ProLine version. I wish they would run a STAR big-bead gremlin, I'd stock up on them.

[gokayaksteven]

hi Dave--any idea when we will see star gators? spiders? thx

[davei]

hi Dave--any idea when we will see star gators? spiders? thx

They have both been in queue since Spring, but I don't have a solid date yet.

[MTL21676]

Sharks were way too stable in Champion

Champion sharks are the bomb for S curves, head winds and shorter spike hzyers!

[20460chase]

I like the rim on the Coyote. I have plenty of the other discs everyone named off. Thanks though.

I think star is more overstable for the most part, exception for me being the Coyote. I only throw the red color in drivers, though, so maybe Ill try a Red Coyote. I have one Ive been waiting to throw , anyways.

[colin-evans]

When do you plan to do second runs on Star Discs? Will there be more than white in the next run of Star SLs?

Thanks
ce

[davei]

When do you plan to do second runs on Star Discs? Will there be more than white in the next run of Star SLs?

Thanks
ce

We have been doing second runs already, depending on the model. The first run of Star SLs did include red, yellow, and blue.

[veganray]

I know it's wishful thinking, but any ETA on Star Gremlin-Xs? (I am addicted the STAR Gremlin-L; who needs a "driver" when I can put it 300ft on a rope exactly where I want it 97.547% of the time.)

[20460chase]

We have been doing second runs already, depending on the model. The first run of Star SLs did include red, yellow, and blue.

And Pink.

[davei]

I know it's wishful thinking, but any ETA on Star Gremlin-Xs?

Not at this time

[quickdisc]

Star Sharks are Sweet !!!!

[TimMirabal]

my main midrange now is a champ coyote but i want something a little more stable what would be a good disc?

[AWSmith]

They were approved as the Sniper. I don't know why they are not also listed as the Gremlin.

does this mean that the gremlin = ching sniper?
if so then is it possible to bring back the tank?

[geomy]

Should be available some time in September, I hope. They are up next to be run.

Good news, please? I've been way too careful with my last Tulsa SB...Stars will be a welcome relief.

[davei]

my main midrange now is a champ coyote but i want something a little more stable what would be a good disc?

Star Shark

[davei]

does this mean that the gremlin = ching sniper?
if so then is it possible to bring back the tank?

Yes to both.

[MBStuart]

I can't wait for the Star Orcs!!!
My SB Tulsa Orc is the most reliable distance disc in my bag.

[thetruthxl]

Dave-
reviewing the recent additions to the innova line, it seems to me that the direction you're heading is more overstable drivers and more understable midranges. Am I reading into this too much or is there a formula I'm missing?

Can't wait to meet all the innova guys at the USDGC!!!!

Thanks!!!

[davei]

Dave-
reviewing the recent additions to the innova line, it seems to me that the direction you're heading is more overstable drivers and more understable midranges. Am I reading into this too much or is there a formula I'm missing?

You're reading in too much. There is no specific direction. We are just trying to fill holes in the line or improve discs we have.

[prairie_dawg]

Dave,

Love the skeeter! What do you have with more speed with the same glide, turn and fade.

Thanks,
Ray

What do you have with more speed with the same glide, turn and fade.

TL (speed 7 as opposed to 4) and Starfire (2 fade instead of 1, speed 10). That's about all I can think of.
I also love the Skeeter, just can't get my hands on many.

[davei]

Dave,

Love the skeeter! What do you have with more speed with the same glide, turn and fade.

Thanks,
Ray

Nothing yet. The low speed fade will be the toughest to reproduce in a faster disc.

[jorr]

Hey Dave,
Is there anything different about the star plastic in the new leopards? They seem extra grippy compared to all the other star plastic...is this just me or is anyone else noticing it??
Thanks!

[davei]

Hey Dave,
Is there anything different about the star plastic in the new leopards? They seem extra grippy compared to all the other star plastic...is this just me or is anyone else noticing it??
Thanks!

There is nothing different in the plastic, but I have noticed differences from disc to disc in the same plastic.