Old Jul 25 2006, 03:40 PM   #6061
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How do you hope to achieve the carry of a larger diameter disc with the Hobbit? More speed with a driver-like wing? More glide with a convex rim? Or something else altogether? BTW, the Star Coyote once broken in is the truest mid I've ever thrown. Thanks again.
Actually the Hobbit is more putter like, but faster. It's already approved and should be out soon.
Is this new disc , The Hobbit , Aviar like ?
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Old Jul 25 2006, 07:45 PM   #6062
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How do you hope to achieve the carry of a larger diameter disc with the Hobbit? More speed with a driver-like wing? More glide with a convex rim? Or something else altogether? BTW, the Star Coyote once broken in is the truest mid I've ever thrown. Thanks again.
Actually the Hobbit is more putter like, but faster. It's already approved and should be out soon.
Is this new disc , The Hobbit , Aviar like ?
It has a flight characteristic like an Aviar, but it goes farther. It looks more like a small Aero and/or a Goblin. And, we have changed the name.
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Old Jul 25 2006, 08:11 PM   #6063
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Old Jul 25 2006, 09:18 PM   #6064
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Dunno if this has been asked yet but will the Wraith ever be made in Champ plastic...besides the CFR
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Old Jul 26 2006, 06:45 AM   #6065
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Old Jul 26 2006, 06:47 AM   #6066
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Yes. I am surprised it hasn't already moved over.
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Old Jul 26 2006, 09:16 AM   #6067
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Hows it looking on those flat top Star Leopards? I lost another flat topped CE, so am keeping my fingers crossed.
I'm not sure what a flat top looks like. The Star Leopards have been runnin for a while now. There is a flat spot on top, but I wouldn't call them flat.
I throw CE Leopards as my main driver, and I have found that there are definitely very flat ones, and very domey ones out there. The ones made from the more opaque, grippy plastic (I'm assuming earlier runs with more urethane?) are always flatter...The more translucent ones seem to be domier. All of the champion leopards I have seen have been domey, which is why I dont really like them. The different leopards have significantly different flights, the flat CE ones move a lot quicker and roll better. I have been stocking up.
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Old Jul 26 2006, 09:24 AM   #6068
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Might be popular in the upper midwest if it cuts thru the summer swarms.

(DD- Copyright concerns or did Millennium want the other name?)
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Old Jul 26 2006, 09:43 AM   #6069
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When's Millenium going to unveil their Falcon ?!?!
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Old Jul 26 2006, 09:53 AM   #6070
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They may need to change the name. Lightning made a Falcon in the late 80's.
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Old Jul 26 2006, 10:06 AM   #6071
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After posting this I realized you'd have a special hotstamped upper midwest version made with micro-encapsulated compound called the Deet'r to chase away skeeters.
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Old Jul 26 2006, 10:26 AM   #6072
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They may need to change the name. Lightning made a Falcon in the late 80's.
I think it was a joke. Han Solo, Chewbacca...
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Old Jul 26 2006, 10:27 AM   #6073
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Old Jul 26 2006, 11:05 AM   #6074
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Might be popular in the upper midwest if it cuts thru the summer swarms.

(DD- Copyright concerns or did Millennium want the other name?)
Copyright concerns. We planned on putting John's face on a Hobbit body.
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Old Jul 26 2006, 11:22 AM   #6075
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You wanted him to look taller?


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Old Jul 26 2006, 11:32 AM   #6076
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Old Jul 26 2006, 12:11 PM   #6077
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Old Jul 26 2006, 06:27 PM   #6078
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Dunno if this has been asked yet but will the Wraith ever be made in Champ plastic...besides the CFR
Yes. I am surprised it hasn't already moved over.

By moved over do you mean shipped fout or sale?
That would be sweet.

also what about T Rexs in DX and Champ?
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Old Jul 26 2006, 08:02 PM   #6079
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Yes. I am surprised it hasn't already moved over.

By moved over do you mean shipped fout or sale?
That would be sweet.

also what about T Rexs in DX and Champ?
Moved over to mainstream from fundraiser.

TRexs in DX are coming up in the schedule again. They are a definite. Champion will depend on the schedule.
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Old Jul 29 2006, 08:50 PM   #6080
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Dave I know there is a lot on the schedule but how bout a star gator?
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Old Jul 29 2006, 09:34 PM   #6081
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It's in the schedule, but I don't know when. Soon, I hope.
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Old Jul 29 2006, 09:43 PM   #6082
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Dave, what drivers/discs do you recommend for players who put 1)more 2)less spin on their drives? And in your opionion, how does spin affect disc flight combined with higher and lower velocities?
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Old Jul 30 2006, 09:16 AM   #6083
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The higher the spin, the slower the rate of precession or turn of the disc. This is for any speed.

More or less spin affects putts and up shots more than drives as it is difficult to modulate spin at higher velocities, and it doesn't make much difference anyway. Velocity, nose angle, and a clean snap (as opposed to flutter) affect drives much more than rate of spin.

All this being said: higher speed throwers should throw more stable discs (like TeeBirds). Fluttery throwers should throw overstable discs to counteract their flutter (like Firebirds). Lower speed throwers should throw discs with carry and only mild low speed overstability (like Leopards, Valkyries, Roadrunners). Lower speed throwers, and those who are prone to injuries, should throw lower weight discs.
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Old Jul 30 2006, 09:23 AM   #6084
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The higher the spin, the slower the rate of precession or turn of the disc. This is for any speed.

When you say 'turn of the disc'...are you referring to turnover or low speed fade...or both?
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Old Jul 30 2006, 03:23 PM   #6085
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The higher the spin, the slower the rate of precession or turn of the disc. This is for any speed.

When you say 'turn of the disc'...are you referring to turnover or low speed fade...or both?
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Old Jul 31 2006, 10:15 AM   #6086
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Hey Dave long time reader first time poster

So now that Am Worlds is over when are we going to see those fancy Star Orcs???

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Old Jul 31 2006, 02:58 PM   #6087
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So now that Am Worlds is over when are we going to see those fancy Star Orcs???

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Should be available some time in September, I hope. They are up next to be run.
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Old Jul 31 2006, 10:12 PM   #6088
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What's the real difference between a Bulldog and the Hydra?

I haven't checked to see whether the Bulldog floats, but really, what else is different?
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Old Jul 31 2006, 10:54 PM   #6089
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The Bulldog is more stable than the Hydra.

and

the Hydra is only available in one weight

think the difference between the Aviar and the Aero in flight performance.

For a while I used the Hydra as a back up putter/appoach but it felt like I was throwing a brick so I gave it to my nephews for their bag.
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Old Aug 01 2006, 06:55 AM   #6090
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I haven't checked to see whether the Bulldog floats, but really, what else is different?
There is no difference now. Originally the Hydra was slightly unstable and the Bullldog was slightly overstable. The Hydra is now stable and the Bulldog is discontinued. Both were floating discs.
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