Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 201

AviarX · Jul 15 2006, 09:13 AM

Thanks for the response Dave. I am guessing like me you are either using a JK Aviar-x or a Coyote in those situations. i used to strictly throw straight at the target but in some situations the other approach is beginning to seem the better choice, and i like your situational, rather than prescriptive, answer.

poisonelf · Jul 16 2006, 12:24 AM

Has the 190g+ DX condors been discontinued

davei · Jul 16 2006, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Has the 190g+ DX condors been discontinued

In normal stock, yes. It will be run on an infrequent basis as several players I know use it for thumber rollers.

rangel · Jul 17 2006, 07:31 AM

In the span of 24 hours, I managed to
buy a new 168g Champion SW
lose my year old 171g Champion SW and
buy a new 171g STAR SW
(in that order)

Now. Is it me, the weight, or the plastic. I have thrown both as my primary driver for 18 holes. The STAR SW seems to have more hyzer on the end of the drive. And it doesn't seem to hold the anny line for as long.

If I'm not crazy, then will the STAR SW eventually become more like the Champion and hold the anny line longer.

(I throw line-drive style tee shots and my SW distance on the course is between 270' and 300'.)

It's making my choice of "go-to" disc hard

Jul 17 2006, 08:07 AM

Dave, I recently purchased an early Innova Target from a friend. It has a DGA Base on it. He remembers it originaly had a wooden base. Is that possible? I figured it had a green cone / mound. It has threaded pipe, 18 chains on 18 spokes, yellow tapered bottom of basket (like on the "crush your buddies" poster). He may have won it around 1997. I would like to put it back to original as a classic. Thanks.

flynvegas · Jul 17 2006, 08:48 AM

I've got the two original Innova baskets. One is like a garbage can, all plastic. The other has a steel cage [top & bottom] the pole was plumbing tubes with a toilet inlet screwed to a wood base. These came with plastic tubes, no chains.

davei · Jul 17 2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

In the span of 24 hours, I managed to
buy a new 168g Champion SW
lose my year old 171g Champion SW and
buy a new 171g STAR SW
(in that order)

Now. Is it me, the weight, or the plastic. I have thrown both as my primary driver for 18 holes. The STAR SW seems to have more hyzer on the end of the drive. And it doesn't seem to hold the anny line for as long.

If I'm not crazy, then will the STAR SW eventually become more like the Champion and hold the anny line longer.

(I throw line-drive style tee shots and my SW distance on the course is between 270' and 300'.)

It's making my choice of "go-to" disc hard

I noticed that the Star Sidewinders seem to be a bit more stable to start. They will eventually wear in to hold the turn longer.

davei · Jul 17 2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Dave, I recently purchased an early Innova Target from a friend. It has a DGA Base on it. He remembers it originaly had a wooden base. Is that possible? I figured it had a green cone / mound. It has threaded pipe, 18 chains on 18 spokes, yellow tapered bottom of basket (like on the "crush your buddies" poster). He may have won it around 1997. I would like to put it back to original as a classic. Thanks.

The originals may have had a threaded wooden base, but that was not for long. The threaded green metal base took over fairly soon. Now the base is a wire type base. The yellow tray has been replaced with a deeper galvanized one.

widiscgolf · Jul 17 2006, 11:18 AM

Dave,

I just wanted to point out how an excellent job you are doing following up with all these questions, concerns and requests.

I also would like to add how well Innova has been pumping out the star line discs in a fast pace.

Love the star wraith, firebird and coyote!!

Thanks again from all of us!!

Josh

thetruthxl · Jul 17 2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Has the 190g+ DX condors been discontinued

In normal stock, yes. It will be run on an infrequent basis as several players I know use it for thumber rollers.

What about those players you know that love other "discontinued" molds?

Any short runs of Rams in the future?

davei · Jul 17 2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Has the 190g+ DX condors been discontinued

In normal stock, yes. It will be run on an infrequent basis as several players I know use it for thumber rollers.

What about those players you know that love other "discontinued" molds?

Any short runs of Rams in the future?

Yes, any disc that still exists, and has any significant following, we will try to do short runs when we can.

angra · Jul 17 2006, 01:01 PM

Hi, will there be any Star FL?

thanks.

davei · Jul 17 2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Hi, will there be any Star FL?

thanks.

Yes, but I don't know when yet.

thetruthxl · Jul 17 2006, 03:13 PM

I'm starting a movement....what numbers do you need to see? You can PM me if you don't want your secrets revealed!

The RAM is the disc that is going to propel me to tour status!

Thanks, Dave, for putting up with my BS!

rangel · Jul 17 2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

In the span of 24 hours, I managed to
buy a new 168g Champion SW
lose my year old 171g Champion SW and
buy a new 171g STAR SW
(in that order)

Now. Is it me, the weight, or the plastic. I have thrown both as my primary driver for 18 holes. The STAR SW seems to have more hyzer on the end of the drive. And it doesn't seem to hold the anny line for as long.

If I'm not crazy, then will the STAR SW eventually become more like the Champion and hold the anny line longer.

(I throw line-drive style tee shots and my SW distance on the course is between 270' and 300'.)

It's making my choice of "go-to" disc hard

I noticed that the Star Sidewinders seem to be a bit more stable to start. They will eventually wear in to hold the turn longer.

That will be sweeeeeet.

CB2 · Jul 18 2006, 01:12 AM

Is there any plan's on making a new type of disc?

davei · Jul 18 2006, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Is there any plan's on making a new type of disc?

We are presently making the Hobbit, a longer flying Goblin like disc. This disc will fit between a Shark and a Coyote for flight characteristics, but is a 175 gm max instead of 180 gm max.

ck34 · Jul 18 2006, 08:47 AM

I think many thought for sure that would be a Millennium disc...

MTL21676 · Jul 18 2006, 08:59 AM

Quote:

I think many thought for sure that would be a Millennium disc...

chuck's best post ever?

ck34 · Jul 18 2006, 10:04 AM

Is it possible that after the generic star stamp, the disc logo might be... no it couldn't possibly be... they wouldn't do it would they... well Abe did make it on the penny...

Too many possibilities for marketing such as a poster with a nun tossing the new disc with the caption, "Get into the Hobbit of disc golf"

(I'm sorry, it's just a weird Tuesday)

tokyo · Jul 18 2006, 10:56 AM

hey Dave I want a Coda Hatfield poster to hang on my wall or maybe a life size cut out, how bout it.

CB2 · Jul 18 2006, 11:00 AM

Why would you want that?

m_conners · Jul 18 2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

hey Dave I want a Coda Hatfield poster to hang on my wall or maybe a life size cut out, how bout it.

good grief here we go.

accidentalROLLER · Jul 18 2006, 11:52 AM

Looks like somebody has a crush.
Dave, I want a full size Valerie Jenkins Poster!

tokyo · Jul 18 2006, 01:33 PM

Well I m going to ask Gateway for the same thing of Jared!

lafsaledog · Jul 18 2006, 01:52 PM

I have a "full" size poster of Val .
When she was at 05 worlds in PA , a freind of mine took a pic of her and blew it up as big as he could .
Also got a pic of the top five women of last years worlds

tokyo · Jul 18 2006, 01:53 PM

I ve changed my mind I want that picture!

circle_2 · Jul 18 2006, 02:21 PM

What were the years that CE discs were produced? I recently scored an unmarked 2003 generic Ice Bowl stamped driver (likely made in '02)...and I believe it to be a CE TL...could it be? [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

gokayaksteven · Jul 18 2006, 06:29 PM

i had one of those. it was a TL, but i believe it was champion plastic, which is basically the same as ce, except for the 1st [most durable and hard/stiff] and 2nd [softer, much less durable] runs.

tokyo · Jul 19 2006, 01:37 AM

Dave im ready for Frodo give it to me!!!

Jul 15 2006, 09:13 AM	#6001
AviarX PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwest of Indianapolis Posts: 2,504	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the response Dave. I am guessing like me you are either using a JK Aviar-x or a Coyote in those situations. i used to strictly throw straight at the target but in some situations the other approach is beginning to seem the better choice, and i like your situational, rather than prescriptive, answer.

Jul 16 2006, 12:24 AM	#6002
poisonelf PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 281	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Has the 190g+ DX condors been discontinued

Jul 17 2006, 07:31 AM	#6004
rangel PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Great State of Kentucky Posts: 139	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! In the span of 24 hours, I managed to buy a new 168g Champion SW lose my year old 171g Champion SW and buy a new 171g STAR SW (in that order) Now. Is it me, the weight, or the plastic. I have thrown both as my primary driver for 18 holes. The STAR SW seems to have more hyzer on the end of the drive. And it doesn't seem to hold the anny line for as long. If I'm not crazy, then will the STAR SW eventually become more like the Champion and hold the anny line longer. (I throw line-drive style tee shots and my SW distance on the course is between 270' and 300'.) It's making my choice of "go-to" disc hard

Jul 17 2006, 08:07 AM	#6005
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, I recently purchased an early Innova Target from a friend. It has a DGA Base on it. He remembers it originaly had a wooden base. Is that possible? I figured it had a green cone / mound. It has threaded pipe, 18 chains on 18 spokes, yellow tapered bottom of basket (like on the "crush your buddies" poster). He may have won it around 1997. I would like to put it back to original as a classic. Thanks.

Jul 17 2006, 08:48 AM	#6006
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! I've got the two original Innova baskets. One is like a garbage can, all plastic. The other has a steel cage [top & bottom] the pole was plumbing tubes with a toilet inlet screwed to a wood base. These came with plastic tubes, no chains.

Jul 17 2006, 11:18 AM	#6009
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, I just wanted to point out how an excellent job you are doing following up with all these questions, concerns and requests. I also would like to add how well Innova has been pumping out the star line discs in a fast pace. Love the star wraith, firebird and coyote!! Thanks again from all of us!! Josh __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Jul 17 2006, 01:01 PM	#6012
angra Community Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 21	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Hi, will there be any Star FL? thanks.

Jul 17 2006, 03:13 PM	#6014
thetruthxl Community Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home of the 2008 Worlds Posts: 973	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! I'm starting a movement....what numbers do you need to see? You can PM me if you don't want your secrets revealed! The RAM is the disc that is going to propel me to tour status! Thanks, Dave, for putting up with my BS!

Jul 18 2006, 01:12 AM	#6016
CB2 PDGA Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,098	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Is there any plan's on making a new type of disc? __________________ Solstice Disc Sports

Jul 18 2006, 08:47 AM	#6018
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! I think many thought for sure that would be a Millennium disc...

Jul 18 2006, 10:04 AM	#6020
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Is it possible that after the generic star stamp, the disc logo might be... no it couldn't possibly be... they wouldn't do it would they... well Abe did make it on the penny... Too many possibilities for marketing such as a poster with a nun tossing the new disc with the caption, "Get into the Hobbit of disc golf" (I'm sorry, it's just a weird Tuesday)

Jul 18 2006, 10:56 AM	#6021
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! hey Dave I want a Coda Hatfield poster to hang on my wall or maybe a life size cut out, how bout it. __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Jul 18 2006, 11:00 AM	#6022
CB2 PDGA Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 1,098	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Why would you want that? __________________ Solstice Disc Sports

Jul 18 2006, 11:52 AM	#6024
accidentalROLLER Membership Expired Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DGADDMF Posts: 2,072	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Looks like somebody has a crush. Dave, I want a full size Valerie Jenkins Poster! __________________ Boycott Sun King. Boycott Gateway.

Jul 18 2006, 01:33 PM	#6025
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Well I m going to ask Gateway for the same thing of Jared! __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Jul 18 2006, 01:52 PM	#6026
lafsaledog Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 389	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! I have a "full" size poster of Val . When she was at 05 worlds in PA , a freind of mine took a pic of her and blew it up as big as he could . Also got a pic of the top five women of last years worlds

Jul 18 2006, 01:53 PM	#6027
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! I ve changed my mind I want that picture! __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Jul 18 2006, 02:21 PM	#6028
circle_2 Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lawrence, Kansas Posts: 2,687	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! What were the years that CE discs were produced? I recently scored an unmarked 2003 generic Ice Bowl stamped driver (likely made in '02)...and I believe it to be a CE TL...could it be? [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Jul 18 2006, 06:29 PM	#6029
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! i had one of those. it was a TL, but i believe it was champion plastic, which is basically the same as ce, except for the 1st [most durable and hard/stiff] and 2nd [softer, much less durable] runs.

Jul 19 2006, 01:37 AM	#6030
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave im ready for Frodo give it to me!!! __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

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