Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[prairie_dawg]

...This afternoon will be testing 150g STAR Classic Roc. I'll report back . . .

In short, kudos to Dave & the rest of the folks at Innova. Keep 'em coming (and don't forget us light plastic throwers).

Did you say STAR Classic Roc drool

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Tee Birds and Valkyries seem outdated now...though they're the only discs to ever exceed 800'! Dave, what newer Innova discs offer the greatest Big-D potential for a new World Record?

[riverdog]

DX TeeRex?????????

[DSproAVIAR]

Tee Birds...seem outdated now

No way. Best disc ever made!

[veganray]

Yep, DX TeeRex. They are sweet!

I agree with DSProAviar; NO WAY are Teebirds outdated. Still my go-to driver.

I retired my teebirds when the tee-rex hit the market. Why have a slower version of a disc when the faster version is just as accurate if not more? Hit a 150 foot side arm skip shot for bird yesterday with my tee-rex. This is a shot that my teebird would have just stuck on the ground. I dunno if its mental or not, but my sidearm game is much more accurate with the tee-rex.

[DSproAVIAR]

My TRX and TB have a very similar line when thrown with similar angle and speed/spin. But the TRX goes alot farther. I've tried backing off the TRX when throwing 400 (straight shot) and the TB is waay more accurate at 400 (straight shot) because I don't have to back off on it. For anything over 410, I would use the TRX. Basically, for me, the 2 discs have the same line, but the TRX goes alot farther and is less controllable at slower speeds.

edit: I do throw my TRX alot on holes under 400, but only if I want the big high hyzer line. And I would still use a full throw.

[thetruthxl]

No way. Best disc ever made!

Absolutely! Ask any Innova Pro...most will have the teebird in the bag.

Dave,
Have you given any thought to "star-a-fying" the eagle?

Looking forward to ordering the star rhyno. Any field news on the flights yet?

[accidentalROLLER]

The Rhyno is currently in production. We will run at least a tournament sized batch of Stars.

Dave, where are the STAR Rhynos?

[z Vaughn z]

No way. Best disc ever made!

Whole Heartedly agree!!

[primetime]

My TRX and TB have a very similar line when thrown with similar angle and speed/spin. But the TRX goes alot farther. I've tried backing off the TRX when throwing 400 (straight shot) and the TB is waay more accurate at 400 (straight shot) because I don't have to back off on it. For anything over 410, I would use the TRX. Basically, for me, the 2 discs have the same line, but the TRX goes alot farther and is less controllable at slower speeds.

edit: I do throw my TRX alot on holes under 400, but only if I want the big high hyzer line. And I would still use a full throw.

Nough said!! Very true!!

PT Woods
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[ellswrth]

I agree with DSProAviar; NO WAY are Teebirds outdated. Still my go-to driver.

Mine too!

[accidentalROLLER]

Mine too!

BUMP! My 11x KC Pro Teebird and STAR TL will never leave my bag. Whenever I have an indecision about a hole, I automatically grab a teebird.

[riverdog]

Whole Heartedly agree!!

Some of the best rounds I've ever thrown have been two disc rounds - a putter and a TeeBird. Now if someone could just tell me why I'm toting around this 20 pound quad shocked bag........ [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[mlust2003]

I agree with all of these last statements. The Tee-bird rocks. The Teebird, TL, Wraith, and Tee Rex are all great disc, but they all come out for different purposes. That 400 ft marker is a good indicator as to which disc I'll use. If your trying to reach a greater distance, like the boy scout seems to be, then the Tee Rex or Wraith can get you there. Regardless of how far you can throw, there should still be a spot in your bag for your Teebird and or TL.
Oh.. and Dave,
I've been throwing some star plastic and it feels good and throws well. I haven't formed an opinion on its durability yet. How do you compare the life span of Star plastic to Champion? Also, do you have any plans for a Champion TeeRex?

[JRauch]

I throw Teebirds, wraiths, and Teerexes. At my home course I used to have to throw Wraiths to reach most of the holes, when the teerex came out I was trowing that to reach some with a straight/hyser shot. Lately I have been reaching for the Teebird more and more. There is just way less varience it what my Teebirds will do. I agree with everyone who says the Teebird is the best driver ever and I hope to be carring them for a long time.

[Alacrity]

There is no doubt that the T-Bird is far from outdated. I can get a T-Bird to hold a straighter line for more distance than any disc I have. Once it does tail off it does not skip half a mile either, unlike an Orc. I have not thrown my T-Rex long enough to say how it holds a stright line, but I cannot see it being the same as a T-Bird from the few times I have thrown it.

[thetruthxl]

At my home course I used to have to throw Wraiths to reach most of the holes,

I want to visit this course!!! I've had to make the decision to put the wraith back into the bag because it's too long for some of the kzoo courses!!

[AviarX]

No way. Best disc ever made!

best disc ever made: the Aviar! (most copied too) [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

the beauty of a slower disc is that if your a few degrees off on your line it doesn't speed off target as fast nor as far...

as for best distance disc i wonder if the DX Orc or or DX SL has the best chance to beat the Valkyrie? seems to me like the DX TeeRex and DX Starfire and DX Wraith -- while great, consistent Distance discs -- aren't understable enough to maximize tailwinds and flirt with world record distance...

of course the more overstable stuff is a lot more forgiving if you are heavy on power and light on technique...

seems to me like the DX TeeRex and DX Starfire and DX Wraith -- while great, consistent Distance discs -- aren't understable enough to maximize tailwinds and flirt with world record distance...

of course the more overstable stuff is a lot more forgiving if you are heavy on power and light on technique...

I have a really nice beat up tee-rex, the first one I bought at the Bowling Green Ams. Still over stable, but when thrown flat it fights hard to try and flip to anhyzer but just doesnt quite get there. It ends up flying longer and straighter than a wraith put on the same line. I would be willing to expect someone out there using a dx-teerex that is light enough or beat enough to hit some amazing long distance D attempts in a long D competition. Knowing how low speed overstable that disc can be, if you manage to get a great hyzer flip out of the disc with the right tail wind, not only will it go forever, but if you hit your line right, when the disc finally flexs back out, the wind will push it like a kite out of hell.


As for teebirds, sure its a great disc, I just see more accuracy, reguardless of the situation, distance, or speed from my tee-rex. Could be I control a larger rim disc better?



Dave, a faster goblin? That sounds so sweet! I would love to test out some of those bad boys! I love the goblin and still have not decided whether or not it will replace either aviars or coyotes. I know the aviar will stay, but how is the goblin doing in sales? I would hate to see it go the way of the bulldog, my favorite windy day putter.

[AviarX]

Could be I control a larger rim disc better?

i'm thinking larger rims mask technique issues and thus are a lot easier to control when throwing hard and that's why they are so popular...

[quickdisc]

No way. Best disc ever made!

Always carry a TeeBird in your bag.
I have been using a 11x Candy KC TeeBird. 174 grams.

[JRauch]

I want to visit this course!!! I've had to make the decision to put the wraith back into the bag because it's too long for some of the kzoo courses!!

Come to the hambrick and see what it is all about!! Most people can find a hole or two to throw the wraith on.

[quickdisc]

Hey Dave,

I heard a rumor that you guys maybe re-designing the Discatcher Pro Basket ? Is this just a rumor ?
I think it's OK the way it is.
Something about a thinner band on top and chain configuration ?

Hey Dave,

I heard a rumor that you guys maybe re-designing the Discatcher Pro Basket ? Is this just a rumor ?
I think it's OK the way it is.
Something about a thinner band on top and chain configuration ?

SAY GOOD BYE TO THE BIG YELLOW DINGER!

Hey AviarX, I would be inclined to agree with you the more I think about it, but just cannot get past the simple fact that I have more "feel" or "touch" when using a wider rimmed disc. I can put a smaller rimmed disc on the same line and flight path as a wide rimmed disc. Wraith .vs. Viking - Wraith has about 60 feet on the viking. Only other difference, The wraith will hold a line I want for as long as I want. Sometimes the Viking just does not want to hold that same line. Same thing with making the disc skip. Wraith I have no problem, Viking does not like to always do it.

So, can I simply perform more actions with the wider rimmed disc that do what I want, or am I asking too much of the smaller rimmed discs?

Anyway, Im leaving this message more confused than when I started to post.

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Tee Birds and Valkyries seem outdated now...though they're the only discs to ever exceed 800'! Dave, what newer Innova discs offer the greatest Big-D potential for a new World Record?

Simma down...geeeez! I'm guesstimating T'Birds came out around 98-99 so my comment about them 'seeming' to be outdated is based on a timeline. I carry 2 11x'ers and an SE TL and I won't go to a course w/o them.

So, Dave Dunipace...what newer Innova drivers offer the greatest World Record distance potential?

[AviarX]

that may just be the magic of the Wraith. do you have the same control advantage with other big-rimmed discs?

also, do you find you can control an Aviar or Coyote even better. if not, you might want to try playing a few rounds with just midranges and putters and see if it helps your game.

okay back to you regular programmed Dave D disc and throwing expertise (i'm not an expert, but sometimes i catch myself playing one on the DB) ...

[DSproAVIAR]

also, do you find you can control an Aviar or Coyote even better. if not, you might want to try playing a few rounds with just midranges and putters and see if it helps your game.

Good idea! I just matched a course record using only 2 KC Aviars. It is a neighborhood course, short nine holer. I definately pumped a couple over 320 (very light wind), which I have not even tried in a year or 2. Great practice!!!

[veganray]

Loriella Park: My record with a full bag=48, played once with only a Proline Gremlin & got a 43. Go figger'.

[quickdisc]

I'm waiting for the new run of Wolverine Discs !!!!