Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 184

davei · Apr 30 2006, 05:05 PM

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Dave:

I have recently been throwing the Star TeeBird and the Star TL. I am enjoying the discs and plastics, and I can't help but think that the Star Leopard would compliment these two very nicely. Please to be forgiving if this has been asked, but is there a timeline for the production of a Star Leopard? Thanks.

Star Leopard will happen, but not for several months.

AviarX · Apr 30 2006, 05:07 PM

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Hi Dave,

A couple of (older) Champion TL's have found their way to me, and i am pretty happy about it. I have the Star too, but they seem more slow speed overstable to me (and i like TL's when i need a very straight disc). Are there any plans to start making TL's in Champion?

Not at this time, sorry.

Are Champion TL's still offered as a fundraiser disc? Also, are others finding the Star TL's have more fade than Champ, or do you think i may just need to break them in?

davei · Apr 30 2006, 05:07 PM

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Hey Dave,
Any timeframe on the DX teerex?

thanks!

A small run has been done already. I don't know when the full run will be made. I think the first run is available for tournaments. If not, it should be.

davei · Apr 30 2006, 05:11 PM

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Hi Dave,

A couple of (older) Champion TL's have found their way to me, and i am pretty happy about it. I have the Star too, but they seem more slow speed overstable to me (and i like TL's when i need a very straight disc). Are there any plans to start making TL's in Champion?

Not at this time, sorry.

Are Champion TL's still offered as a fundraiser disc? Also, are others finding the Star TL's have more fade than Champ, or do you think i may just need to break them in?

I think Champion TLs are still available for tournaments. I don't know if the Stars have more fade or not. I know they fly pretty straight. They might be more high speed stable than the Champion version.

greenbeard · May 01 2006, 11:36 AM

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Yes, Star Monster will get squeezed in somewhere.

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Greatzky2 · May 01 2006, 12:35 PM

Hey dave,
Do you know why the Star gremlins(the ones with the Golden state classic stamp at least) ARe beadless and all my Proline Gremlins are Big beaded??
I was hoping that the star discs would be replicas of the Prolines, but these have a different feel.

Please fill me in.

-Scott Lewis

Plankeye · May 01 2006, 12:43 PM

Dave answered this earlier in the thread(but the thread is so long that it is hard to keep up)....

He said the reason why they are different molds is so that they will fly the same IIRC

davei · May 01 2006, 02:41 PM

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Hey dave,
Do you know why the Star gremlins(the ones with the Golden state classic stamp at least) ARe beadless and all my Proline Gremlins are Big beaded??
I was hoping that the star discs would be replicas of the Prolines, but these have a different feel.

Please fill me in.

-Scott Lewis

Basically it is the L version of the Gremlin. The Star is more overstable than the DX for some reason. We thought the Star would be too overstable. The DX doesn't work in the L version, but works fine in the X version. We will probably do the X version in Star next time.

veganray · May 01 2006, 03:07 PM

STAR "Gremlin-L"s are a perfect fit for Gremlin lovers, falling (in overstability) right between a seasoned DX Gremlin & a Proline Gremlin. I adore mine!

When STAR "Gremlin-X"s are run (lemme know, Dave), I might just be able to jettison my Whippet.

rhett · May 01 2006, 04:23 PM

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STAR "Gremlin-L"s are a perfect fit for Gremlin lovers, falling (in overstability) right between a seasoned DX Gremlin & a Proline Gremlin.

That's good to hear. I was very disappointed with my ProLine (Champion) Gremlins when they first came out because they flew nothing like a Ching Sniper.

rhett · May 01 2006, 04:26 PM

Dave, does a "beadless Gremlin" mean that it is really just a Panther???

I thought that the Gremlin was just a renamed Sniper after Ching stopped having Innova mold discs, and that a Sniper was beaded Panther.

20460chase · May 01 2006, 10:01 PM

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STAR "Gremlin-L"s are a perfect fit for Gremlin lovers, falling (in overstability) right between a seasoned DX Gremlin & a Proline Gremlin.

That's good to hear. I was very disappointed with my ProLine (Champion) Gremlins when they first came out because they flew nothing like a Ching Sniper.

No, but the DX version was spot on to a slightly used Sniper. IMO.

I liked the Pro Line because of the overstability. I hope the new Gremlin-X will be out soon.

Hi Dave, any other plans for short run CFR stuff and when will they be available next?

AWSmith · May 01 2006, 11:55 PM

any tenative date in mind for when star rhynos will be released?

davei · May 02 2006, 07:31 AM

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Dave, does a "beadless Gremlin" mean that it is really just a Panther???

I thought that the Gremlin was just a renamed Sniper after Ching stopped having Innova mold discs, and that a Sniper was beaded Panther.

The Gremlin was a different version of Sniper. The first Sniper was just an X version of the Panther, but the Gremlin/Sniper (2nd version) was an X version of that. Ergo, the L version of the XX version brings the Star version back to an X version of the Panther.

davei · May 02 2006, 08:38 AM

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STAR "Gremlin-L"s are a perfect fit for Gremlin lovers, falling (in overstability) right between a seasoned DX Gremlin & a Proline Gremlin.

That's good to hear. I was very disappointed with my ProLine (Champion) Gremlins when they first came out because they flew nothing like a Ching Sniper.

No, but the DX version was spot on to a slightly used Sniper. IMO.

I liked the Pro Line because of the overstability. I hope the new Gremlin-X will be out soon.

Hi Dave, any other plans for short run CFR stuff and when will they be available next?

Yes. I don't know which model and when. Really, I want to do as much CFR stuff as we can, but we never quite know when we can, especially right now with the production crunch.

davei · May 02 2006, 08:40 AM

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any tenative date in mind for when star rhynos will be released?

Unfortunately no, but hopefully this summer.

20460chase · May 02 2006, 11:24 AM

Thank You Sir.

accidentalROLLER · May 02 2006, 11:42 AM

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Thank You Sir.

Ditto. Star Rhyno's will complete my bag. That is....until you find a way to mold "beat-to-hell" star rocs.

rhett · May 02 2006, 02:19 PM

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Dave, does a "beadless Gremlin" mean that it is really just a Panther???

I thought that the Gremlin was just a renamed Sniper after Ching stopped having Innova mold discs, and that a Sniper was beaded Panther.

The Gremlin was a different version of Sniper. The first Sniper was just an X version of the Panther, but the Gremlin/Sniper (2nd version) was an X version of that. Ergo, the L version of the XX version brings the Star version back to an X version of the Panther.

Ahhhh.......so how about a Star Puma, which is basically a thumbtrack Panther

davei · May 02 2006, 03:27 PM

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Dave, does a "beadless Gremlin" mean that it is really just a Panther???

I thought that the Gremlin was just a renamed Sniper after Ching stopped having Innova mold discs, and that a Sniper was beaded Panther.

The Gremlin was a different version of Sniper. The first Sniper was just an X version of the Panther, but the Gremlin/Sniper (2nd version) was an X version of that. Ergo, the L version of the XX version brings the Star version back to an X version of the Panther.

Ahhhh.......so how about a Star Puma, which is basically a thumbtrack Panther

You're the second guy today to suggest that. Thumtrac Whippet? See you friday??

May 04 2006, 01:47 AM

Dave, any chance for Starfires and SLs in DX? If so, when?

davei · May 04 2006, 07:12 AM

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Dave, any chance for Starfires and SLs in DX? If so, when?

Definitely a chance for Starfires, but nothing is scheduled yet. Probably summer sometime, if we get a chance. Not likely with the SL.

EricJKopit · May 04 2006, 04:53 PM

Dave, this has nothing to do with equipment, but I know you look at the posts here...

Is Climo playing at the Masters Cup this year? I see he is registered for the Golden State Classic, but not the Masters Cup. I assume you would know, since Innova is his sponsor.

I'll be bummed if I can't watch him play next weekend...

Thanks,

Eric K

Nao · May 04 2006, 05:02 PM

Dave,
Is there a DX Teerex in the works?
If so is do you have an eta, and will it come in 150 class?
Thanks,
Ronin

ellswrth · May 04 2006, 08:07 PM

It's listed on Ken's web site:http://kenclimo.com/tour.htm

fulcan · May 04 2006, 09:32 PM

Hey Eric. I talked to Burl this last weekend and she says that Ken is coming but Barry isn't. She also said that Steve Rico isn't coming but Bamba is. See you out there.

davei · May 05 2006, 07:20 AM

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Dave,
Is there a DX Teerex in the works?
If so is do you have an eta, and will it come in 150 class?
Thanks,
Ronin

DX Rex is already in tournament fundraising. It is in 150 class. Not sure when it will be in the regular offering.

DeafDGolfer · May 05 2006, 10:43 AM

Hey Dave

I have gotten Goblin and test it out several times

Is it a verison of Poor Man's SB rocs?? since Roc and Goblin has same speed and glide but Goblin has less fade than Roc

Space Cadet

AWSmith · May 05 2006, 02:59 PM

What is the stability like for the special blend roc's compared to a pro roc? And what is the durability like?

thetruthxl · May 05 2006, 03:07 PM

Dave,
Does Millenium sponsor players or does that fall under Team Champion?
Do any innova sponsored players throw the millenium line? Exclusively or disc to disc?

Just a Q fan looking for an "in!"

Thanks, Dave! Have a great weekend!!!!

Troof

May 01 2006, 12:35 PM	#5496
Greatzky2 Community Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 379	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Hey dave, Do you know why the Star gremlins(the ones with the Golden state classic stamp at least) ARe beadless and all my Proline Gremlins are Big beaded?? I was hoping that the star discs would be replicas of the Prolines, but these have a different feel. Please fill me in. -Scott Lewis

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Plankeye PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,395	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave answered this earlier in the thread(but the thread is so long that it is hard to keep up).... He said the reason why they are different molds is so that they will fly the same IIRC

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veganray Community Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The defense table Posts: 2,177	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! STAR "Gremlin-L"s are a perfect fit for Gremlin lovers, falling (in overstability) right between a seasoned DX Gremlin & a Proline Gremlin. I adore mine! When STAR "Gremlin-X"s are run (lemme know, Dave), I might just be able to jettison my Whippet.

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EricJKopit Community Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 142	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, this has nothing to do with equipment, but I know you look at the posts here... Is Climo playing at the Masters Cup this year? I see he is registered for the Golden State Classic, but not the Masters Cup. I assume you would know, since Innova is his sponsor. I'll be bummed if I can't watch him play next weekend... Thanks, Eric K

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Nao Community Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, Is there a DX Teerex in the works? If so is do you have an eta, and will it come in 150 class? Thanks, Ronin

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DeafDGolfer Community Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In the Land of Chainbiters Posts: 126	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Hey Dave I have gotten Goblin and test it out several times Is it a verison of Poor Man's SB rocs?? since Roc and Goblin has same speed and glide but Goblin has less fade than Roc Space Cadet

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AWSmith PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 338	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! What is the stability like for the special blend roc's compared to a pro roc? And what is the durability like?

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thetruthxl Community Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home of the 2008 Worlds Posts: 973	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, Does Millenium sponsor players or does that fall under Team Champion? Do any innova sponsored players throw the millenium line? Exclusively or disc to disc? Just a Q fan looking for an "in!" Thanks, Dave! Have a great weekend!!!! Troof

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