Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 173

20460chase · Mar 23 2006, 02:50 PM

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Hello Mr Dave.

Whats the word on the Gremlin? Also, I really like the stamp on the Teerex. Its sweet.

We did a small run of Star Gremlins before we got interupted. They are in the CFR program for tournaments.

Sweet news. Ill be using them to CFR our 1st event.
How did the Gremlin test in STAR? Also, how the Goblin fit into Innovas mid-range arsenal?

DreaminTree · Mar 23 2006, 03:25 PM

Picked up an orange STAR Aviar and it feels awesome. Definitely going to second the suggestion for running these in the driver mold if possible. That would replace my KC's for sure. I dont really like the normal P&A's off the tee but we will see how this one goes.

20460chase · Mar 23 2006, 05:57 PM

I like the Stars off the tee, also. I used it this weekend ( in the wind ) and threw it on a few 250> holes, and was very impressed. The orange I have is beefy.

davei · Mar 23 2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Hello Mr Dave.

Whats the word on the Gremlin? Also, I really like the stamp on the Teerex. Its sweet.

We did a small run of Star Gremlins before we got interupted. They are in the CFR program for tournaments.

Sweet news. Ill be using them to CFR our 1st event.
How did the Gremlin test in STAR? Also, how the Goblin fit into Innovas mid-range arsenal?

The Star Gremlin test run went very well. It was a fairly straight flyer. The DX test did not go well. It was squirly so we didn't continue. Before we could go back to the Star, we got interupted by a more pressing order. We will try again later both to make DX work and to make more Star.

20460chase · Mar 23 2006, 11:45 PM

It must have been pretty important in order to halt the almighty Gremlin.

thetruthxl · Mar 24 2006, 10:28 AM

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It must have been pretty important in order to halt the almighty Gremlin.

Probably pressing more rams!

AviarX · Mar 24 2006, 11:02 AM

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It must have been pretty important in order to halt the almighty Gremlin.

hopefully Dave realized it was high time he made himself a few Star Coyotes

20460chase · Mar 24 2006, 11:30 AM

Wasnt there a test run of Coyotes done?

AviarX · Mar 24 2006, 12:12 PM

if my memory is right, Dave said he hasn't yet made or tested any when i asked how the Star Coyote compares to the Champ Coyote in terms of flight...

20460chase · Mar 24 2006, 01:09 PM

Ive seen and sold Coyotes not in Champion plastic. Completely opaque, and very tacky. I sold a black one at Christmas, and still have a blue one.

NachoFoo · Mar 24 2006, 02:28 PM

those were pre "Star" more of a special blend.

20460chase · Mar 24 2006, 02:36 PM

They arent Champion. And, they arent really any different than the prototype STARs floating around, mainly in black plastic. They have the regular Champion stamps.

veganray · Mar 24 2006, 03:41 PM

I've got one, too. It feels (to me) like the other opaque black Champion discs I have (Orc, Cobra, Eagle, Valk, Teebird, Roadrunner, Beast, Viking), but not so much like SB or STAR. My $0.02.

LouMoreno · Mar 24 2006, 03:45 PM

Here were Dave's comment on the black Coyotes.

http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/remlink...34&Main=460579

quickdisc · Mar 24 2006, 04:20 PM

I still have my Royal Blue Coyote ( 179 grams ) in my current bag. Helped me get a CTP on a short water hole a few days ago. [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

20460chase · Mar 24 2006, 04:25 PM

I just got 2 in the mail from Tmurph, an Eagle and another Champion Beast. Im comparing it with the Star Beast. Dead on. The Eagle, not so much. Its got better grip than champion, but isnt opaque like Star. All the others I have are also dead on including the Teebird, Valk, Beast, ect. I dont have a Viking though.

Cant forget, some things just escape from behind those walls. I got a KC 11x thats made in the SB Orc plastic. Its red and nasty, and I havent heard of many more.

Furthur · Mar 24 2006, 05:08 PM

There used to be some black vikings on the twistedflyer page that looked a whole like the pre-star black coyote I've got.

HoppingHessian · Mar 25 2006, 11:48 AM

dave,
could you compare a goblin to a buzz?

thanks,
whit

davidbihl · Mar 25 2006, 05:07 PM

HEy Dave]

What would be the most consistent disc for someone who maxes out around 375 to 400 to get max distance throwing 80-90 percent.
i know this question is kinda subjective. Prob trex right, i have 4 ordered to try them.
thanks

davei · Mar 25 2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

dave,
could you compare a goblin to a buzz?

thanks,
whit

I have not thrown a buzz. But my guess is that a buzz is a longer flyer.

davei · Mar 25 2006, 08:07 PM

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HEy Dave]

What would be the most consistent disc for someone who maxes out around 375 to 400 to get max distance throwing 80-90 percent.
i know this question is kinda subjective. Prob trex right, i have 4 ordered to try them.
thanks

I would not recommend a TeeRex unless you are a big arm or throw anhyzer type drives. For your range, I would recommend a Viking, TeeBird, Starfire,Eagle, SL, TL. These are the most consistent at that range. Valkyries, Roadrunners, Sidewinders, Beasts, Wraiths and Orcs will go farther, but are not as consistent.

davidbihl · Mar 25 2006, 09:45 PM

I do like to throw anhyzer type of drives so I will enjoy the trex I think
thanks for the input Dave

Greatzky2 · Mar 26 2006, 12:55 AM

Dave,
Is the Star Stingray anything like the Champion stingrays? I really like my champion stingray, but I am not sure how the star will compare. less stable.. more stable.. ?

-Scott Lewis

p.s. This questions is directed at anyone that happens to know the answer.

davei · Mar 26 2006, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Dave,
Is the Star Stingray anything like the Champion stingrays? I really like my champion stingray, but I am not sure how the star will compare. less stable.. more stable.. ?

-Scott Lewis

p.s. This questions is directed at anyone that happens to know the answer.

My observation is that the Star Stingray is less stable than the Champion Version.

rizbee · Mar 26 2006, 09:21 AM

Dave,

I have been comparing the DX Wraith I got last week at EIEIO to the Star Wraith I purchased - the DX Wraith looks quite a bit more "domey" that the Star Wraith. Is this a consistent difference between the two plastics, and how does it affect the flight (I haven't had a chance to throw them yet...).

Thnx,

Rizbee

davei · Mar 26 2006, 07:36 PM

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Dave,

I have been comparing the DX Wraith I got last week at EIEIO to the Star Wraith I purchased - the DX Wraith looks quite a bit more "domey" that the Star Wraith. Is this a consistent difference between the two plastics, and how does it affect the flight (I haven't had a chance to throw them yet...).

Thnx,

Rizbee

The DX Wraiths are a little more domey than the Star and have quite a bit of glide. The DX Wraith I got at EIEIO was not what I had been playing with or expecting. It was quite a bit less stable than it should have been. I don't know if it was a single aberation, or if it was a bad molding day. It made a good roller, but a bad flyer. Usually the DX Wraiths are at least as stable as the Star, with a little more glide.

widiscgolf · Mar 26 2006, 08:27 PM

Dave or anyone else that knows,

How many of those Pro Gold Starfire-L 2005 Mid-Nationals discs were run?

the_kid · Mar 26 2006, 08:55 PM

The trophy ones?

If not which ones were they?

gokayaksteven · Mar 26 2006, 11:53 PM

my dx wraiths are maybe a hair more [over]stable when new than my stars, and definately more stable than my cfr.

jugggg · Mar 27 2006, 09:17 AM

My DX wraith is more overstable new then my pro, star and cfr wraiths. Can wait to beat it in for some HUGE S shots. Great job on this disc Dave.

Sorry if this has already been asked but when can we expect the Star Starfire X ?

Mar 23 2006, 03:25 PM	#5162
DreaminTree Membership Expired Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 204	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Picked up an orange STAR Aviar and it feels awesome. Definitely going to second the suggestion for running these in the driver mold if possible. That would replace my KC's for sure. I dont really like the normal P&A's off the tee but we will see how this one goes.

Mar 23 2006, 05:57 PM	#5163
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! I like the Stars off the tee, also. I used it this weekend ( in the wind ) and threw it on a few 250> holes, and was very impressed. The orange I have is beefy. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 23 2006, 11:45 PM	#5165
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! It must have been pretty important in order to halt the almighty Gremlin. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 24 2006, 11:30 AM	#5168
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Wasnt there a test run of Coyotes done? __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 24 2006, 12:12 PM	#5169
AviarX PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwest of Indianapolis Posts: 2,504	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! if my memory is right, Dave said he hasn't yet made or tested any when i asked how the Star Coyote compares to the Champ Coyote in terms of flight...

Mar 24 2006, 01:09 PM	#5170
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Ive seen and sold Coyotes not in Champion plastic. Completely opaque, and very tacky. I sold a black one at Christmas, and still have a blue one. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 24 2006, 02:28 PM	#5171
NachoFoo PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 102	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! those were pre "Star" more of a special blend.

Mar 24 2006, 02:36 PM	#5172
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! They arent Champion. And, they arent really any different than the prototype STARs floating around, mainly in black plastic. They have the regular Champion stamps. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 24 2006, 03:41 PM	#5173
veganray Community Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The defense table Posts: 2,177	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! I've got one, too. It feels (to me) like the other opaque black Champion discs I have (Orc, Cobra, Eagle, Valk, Teebird, Roadrunner, Beast, Viking), but not so much like SB or STAR. My $0.02.

Mar 24 2006, 03:45 PM	#5174
LouMoreno PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,116	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Here were Dave's comment on the black Coyotes. http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/remlink...34&Main=460579 __________________ I don't log in or check PMs regularly. Send emails to Texas_Me(at)hotmail.com for a quicker response.

Mar 24 2006, 04:20 PM	#5175
quickdisc PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: America\'s Finest City SD,CA. Posts: 6,186	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! I still have my Royal Blue Coyote ( 179 grams ) in my current bag. Helped me get a CTP on a short water hole a few days ago. [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Mar 24 2006, 04:25 PM	#5176
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! I just got 2 in the mail from Tmurph, an Eagle and another Champion Beast. Im comparing it with the Star Beast. Dead on. The Eagle, not so much. Its got better grip than champion, but isnt opaque like Star. All the others I have are also dead on including the Teebird, Valk, Beast, ect. I dont have a Viking though. Cant forget, some things just escape from behind those walls. I got a KC 11x thats made in the SB Orc plastic. Its red and nasty, and I havent heard of many more. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Mar 24 2006, 05:08 PM	#5177
Furthur PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 776	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! There used to be some black vikings on the twistedflyer page that looked a whole like the pre-star black coyote I've got.

Mar 25 2006, 11:48 AM	#5178
HoppingHessian Membership Expired Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 48	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! dave, could you compare a goblin to a buzz? thanks, whit

Mar 25 2006, 05:07 PM	#5179
davidbihl PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Clarkston, Mi Posts: 199	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! HEy Dave] What would be the most consistent disc for someone who maxes out around 375 to 400 to get max distance throwing 80-90 percent. i know this question is kinda subjective. Prob trex right, i have 4 ordered to try them. thanks

Mar 25 2006, 09:45 PM	#5182
davidbihl PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Clarkston, Mi Posts: 199	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! I do like to throw anhyzer type of drives so I will enjoy the trex I think thanks for the input Dave

Mar 26 2006, 12:55 AM	#5183
Greatzky2 Community Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 379	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Dave, Is the Star Stingray anything like the Champion stingrays? I really like my champion stingray, but I am not sure how the star will compare. less stable.. more stable.. ? -Scott Lewis p.s. This questions is directed at anyone that happens to know the answer.

Mar 26 2006, 09:21 AM	#5185
rizbee PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 2,402	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Dave, I have been comparing the DX Wraith I got last week at EIEIO to the Star Wraith I purchased - the DX Wraith looks quite a bit more "domey" that the Star Wraith. Is this a consistent difference between the two plastics, and how does it affect the flight (I haven't had a chance to throw them yet...). Thnx, Rizbee __________________ "Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic disc golfer. Rizbee will be that golfer. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, birdie-er." - Oscar Goldman

Mar 26 2006, 08:27 PM	#5187
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! Dave or anyone else that knows, How many of those Pro Gold Starfire-L 2005 Mid-Nationals discs were run? __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Mar 26 2006, 08:55 PM	#5188
the_kid PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Livingston(Hicksville),Tx Posts: 7,285	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! The trophy ones? If not which ones were they? __________________ Southern Nationals - best events for players who like a true "Non-profit" and a real Finale www.Discraft.com

Mar 26 2006, 11:53 PM	#5189
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! my dx wraiths are maybe a hair more [over]stable when new than my stars, and definately more stable than my cfr.

Mar 27 2006, 09:17 AM	#5190
jugggg Membership Expired Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cabbage Posts: 192	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here!! My DX wraith is more overstable new then my pro, star and cfr wraiths. Can wait to beat it in for some HUGE S shots. Great job on this disc Dave. Sorry if this has already been asked but when can we expect the Star Starfire X ? __________________ In the evening when the sun is sinking low everybodys with the one they love. I walk the town keep searching all around looking for my street corner girl.

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