Old Nov 08 2003, 07:02 PM   #481
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aj, the Champion Whippet will be run as often as we need it. But I doubt it will be a regular production. It will be available through regular channels, but won't be listed on our literature. We have plans for more of this type run in the future.
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Old Nov 09 2003, 12:24 AM   #482
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Old Nov 09 2003, 11:29 AM   #483
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Just want to see if my picture worked.
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Old Nov 09 2003, 02:40 PM   #484
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Old Nov 09 2003, 04:08 PM   #485
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Not at all Rob. It looks better than the one I posted.
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Old Nov 09 2003, 06:13 PM   #486
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I sure wish I had some non-white 3x JK aviar-x's, those were sweet... extra rare though.
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Old Nov 10 2003, 10:53 AM   #487
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Dave:

A bit of an off-the-wall question: Is there any chance the Jaguar will ever be made again? It is a great disc for beginners, and just plain fun to throw from time to time. I am not begging for a CE plastic version, just some DX would be wonderful.

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Old Nov 10 2003, 12:21 PM   #488
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Karl, there is a good chance we will. I am not sure of the schedule right now, but as soon as possible. Problem is weight more than anything else. The range is very broad. I can't make many, so I have to guess which weights would be most in demand at this point. Maybe you could help me with that.
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Old Nov 10 2003, 01:13 PM   #489
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Although I usually throw lighter weights, I suspect the Jaguar would be most useful and popular in heavier weights. The one I used to throw was 180 grams, as I recall. I would think the 175-185 range would be well received. I can't recall what he upper limit was, but it seems that it was pretty high because of the large diameter.

Just a quick aside: I once threw my Jag on hole #6 at Hoover/Hambrick on a windy day. It turned over, caught the wind, and started rolling like crazy. It then hit a tree at full-tilt-boogie rolling speed -- and then proceeded to climb right up the trunk! Craziest thing you ever saw -- it just rolled right up the trunk (not a very large-diameter tree, which made it look even crazier) about 8-10 ft or so before flipping back out into the air and eventually coming to rest in the fairway. A friend playing with me spontaneously shouted out -- "look at that dang cat climb that tree!" and we all had a great laugh. You can't help but have a nostalgic longing for a tree-climbing disc like that...

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Dave,
I have a SKULL stamped DX Valk. Just how small of a run was it as i have not seen very many others?
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Old Nov 10 2003, 02:07 PM   #491
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sfsdgolf, that is a hotstamping decoration. I don't deal with that sort of thing. It could have been stamped out here or on the east coast. The number stamped could have been as little as 25. Sorry, I couldn't help.
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Old Nov 10 2003, 02:56 PM   #492
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Thanx for the quick answer Dave. Just one more have a X-MAS Stamped Disc from "95" It seems to be Candy Plastic is this a possiblity? VERY LIGHT WEIGHT RED DISC

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sfsdgolf, I don't think it is Candy. It wouldn't be light, and is too early too (95), I believe. If it weighs less than 150gms, I would say no for sure.
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Old Nov 10 2003, 10:28 PM   #494
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Dave,

I know we ask questions about plastic a lot on here. I was looking through some bins of plastic and saw some more opaque candy they were banshees. The reason I ask is they had a much nicer grippier feel.
I almost bought one but do not really throw banshees. I would like and feel like Teebirds and Firebirds in this opaque plastic would be real nice.
I remember when the 11X teebirds came out I saw an opaque red one.
let me know if this is even possible today.
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Old Nov 10 2003, 10:42 PM   #495
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Dave I have been throwing the SE valkyries for turnovers and rollers and I have been informed that they are no longer in production. Although, My kids have been digging through my stacks of extra disc and made me aware that I have a SE leopard so I went to throw it and it seems to be overstable. I thought the Leopards were made to be understable? Is it the plastic that makes it overstable or do I need to just break it in a bit? Your response would be greatly appreciated...
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bandsagger, we are currently looking for a new source of that plastic. I don't see why we can't reproduce those when/if the plastic comes in.
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Old Nov 11 2003, 07:47 AM   #497
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Mr. Pookie, that plastic usually makes the disc less stable, but there are variations in the plastic and molding. It should be possible to break that disc in over time and it will be a good roller anyway. Once broken in, it wil probably last longer than usual too, because of the starting shape.
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Old Nov 11 2003, 08:55 AM   #498
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[quote I have a SKULL stamped DX Valk. Just how small of a run was it as i have not seen very many others?

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If it's a full-color stamp, it's a Ching-stamped Valk. I've fished at least 10 skull-stamped DX discs of various models out of the waters around here. It used to be a one of Ching's stock stamps, so it's probably not all that rare.
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Dave, I got a DX Roc in my player's pack at VPO last weekend. This DX is VERY grippy. Is this something new? It feels great.
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kid roc, it may not be new, it may just be a softer type which is grippier.
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Old Nov 11 2003, 11:18 AM   #501
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Champion Stingrays started this morning and appear to be working, at least as far as molding is concerned. Next step, is checking flight characteristic, then adjusting as necessary if possible.
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WOOOOOHOOOOO! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Champion Stingrays!?!
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Old Nov 11 2003, 02:51 PM   #504
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Dave, I sure hope the CE Stingrays are going to be U.S. Masters exclusive.

Discgraham: please please PLEASE PLEASE edit your post and put some freaking spaces in your typing so that you don't screw up the message board display for everybody else. thanks.
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Amen to that!
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Champion Stingrays?

The Stingray is the PERFECT slow glide turn over disc. That's great news!
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Yeah baby, I am rolling up my dimes and quarters as we speak!

Dave, will they exclusively be a fundraiser disc?
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jdlush, we are discussing the possibility of the Champion Stingray being an exclusive fundraiser for the US Masters, but it doesn't make sense in terms of distribution of what could be a mainstream disc. It probably won't be a fundraiser at all, exclusive or not.
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Thanks Dave. I think it would be a mainstream disc as well. Almost everyone that I know has at least one Stingray in their bag and would love one in Champion plastic.
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Dave, by that logic you best release the CE Roc into general disrtibution as a "mainstream disc".
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