Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 160

AviarX · Feb 15 2006, 07:48 PM

Dave, i pulled an old 10x KC Cheetah out today and was surprised how well that baby performs.
My friend thought i should keep it in the bag.
Any chance whatsoever you could be talked into STAR Cheetahs?

Feb 15 2006, 08:06 PM

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hey Dave, i like to throw old XDs, was wondering if you could make some XDs in the soft avair-x plastic? thats the only plastic i can compare the older xd plastic with.

Luda

We have been running softer XDs lately. The older XDs have been stiffer, so I guess I don't understand what you are saying.

well i've had it for some time, and have hit so many trees its soft now

maybe what i mean is gripper

thanks Luda

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:29 PM

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DX Wraiths today! I can't wait.

Did any 150-class get molded?

Yes. They are being molded now.

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:31 PM

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Dave

I bought a Star wraith the other day, I was really enjoying it, nice glide and very dependable hyzer, i hit a tree 250 down the fairway fairly solid, didnt really think much of it, went to throw it on the next hole in a tail wind with hyzer release, the thing flipped up and turned ended up almost 120 off line right, I asked a few of my friends around town and they have noticed that the plastic is not very durable, Is there plans to change the plastic to increase durability? Have you heard other complaints about the Star durability?

I have heard no complaints at all. Are you sure you have a Star Wraith and not a Pro?

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:34 PM

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Any word on those colored star sl's? And will there be colored areo's?

As far as I can remember, (being at home now), the SL run is done and included colors other than white.

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:36 PM

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A couple of questions. Can you order direct from Innova East?

No, unless you are a dealer.

Dave, is the roadrunner on the star list yet? I have recently decided that it is a better disc than the sidewinder (more consistant). It's kind of like a longer Leopard.

Yes, it's on the list, but down the line a bit.

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:38 PM

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I believe INNOVA EAST = ZONEDRIVEN

Jonathan Poole owns Zonedriven

davei · Feb 15 2006, 08:42 PM

[QUOTE]
Dave, i pulled an old 10x KC Cheetah out today and was surprised how well that baby performs.
My friend thought i should keep it in the bag.
Any chance whatsoever you could be talked into STAR Cheetahs?

[/quote

The Cheetah used to be Ken C's favorite driver before he went to the TeeBird. Not much chance in the regular line, but always a special run chance.

bfunkyp · Feb 15 2006, 09:13 PM

Dave,
nice art on the DX Wraith.
A huge thanks as well for the STAR plastic, I will be filling my bag with it.

AviarX · Feb 15 2006, 10:37 PM

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Dave, i pulled an old 10x KC Cheetah out today and was surprised how well that baby performs.
My friend thought i should keep it in the bag.
Any chance whatsoever you could be talked into STAR Cheetahs?

The Cheetah used to be Ken K's favorite driver before he went to the TeeBird. Not much chance in the regular line, but always a special run chance.

by Ken K i am thinking you mean Ken C. (as in Champ)?

maybe i'll have to give these TeeBird thingies a whirl

xterramatt · Feb 15 2006, 11:06 PM

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can't wait to taco about six of those dx wraiths

I threw one today. More stable into the wind than my not so beat Star, it was about the same as a new Champion Starfire (X). Nice and stiff. Oh, I was throwing a 170g, all the rest of my drivers are 175. Into a headwind (l to r) I got it to fly 30 feet farther than my other drivers. Star, Pro Wraith, new and worn Starfire X, Star Sidewinder, Night Shift Orc.

superq16504 · Feb 16 2006, 08:38 AM

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Dave

I bought a Star wraith the other day, I was really enjoying it, nice glide and very dependable hyzer, i hit a tree 250 down the fairway fairly solid, didnt really think much of it, went to throw it on the next hole in a tail wind with hyzer release, the thing flipped up and turned ended up almost 120 off line right, I asked a few of my friends around town and they have noticed that the plastic is not very durable, Is there plans to change the plastic to increase durability? Have you heard other complaints about the Star durability?

I have heard no complaints at all. Are you sure you have a Star Wraith and not a Pro?

It is a star, I have pro wraiths that have taken a lot more abuse than this star wraith did, and still hold a line, I am on the bandwagon with the (wraith is tempermental) line of thought, I have rolled my sb orc into a trash can from 50 feet hard enough to see the scuff on the can, and it still flies true. I am going to assume that this is a chareristic of the wraith and just keep buying the pro models that seem more durable and consistant.

jugggg · Feb 16 2006, 08:41 AM

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Into a headwind (l to r) I got it to fly 30 feet farther than my other drivers. Star, Pro Wraith, new and worn Starfire X, Star Sidewinder, Night Shift Orc.

Well alright!!!!!

greenbeard · Feb 16 2006, 09:07 AM

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can't wait to taco about six of those dx wraiths

I threw one today. More stable into the wind than my not so beat Star, it was about the same as a new Champion Starfire (X). Nice and stiff. Oh, I was throwing a 170g, all the rest of my drivers are 175. Into a headwind (l to r) I got it to fly 30 feet farther than my other drivers. Star, Pro Wraith, new and worn Starfire X, Star Sidewinder, Night Shift Orc.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Last summer I bought a stack of dx orcs and blew my personal distance records out of the water. Unfortunately, I was drawn into temptation and threw them alot, and made lots of tree contact. Hopefully sanity will remain in sight and I won't repeat the error.

**** I can't wait to get a few of those.

DSproAVIAR · Feb 16 2006, 10:06 AM

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maybe i'll have to give these TeeBird thingies a whirl

You don't throw TeeBirds?!?

HoppingHessian · Feb 16 2006, 10:21 AM

dave,
you finally have the star TL link on your discs page but it is a dead link. are they already out or is this a mistake?

axis · Feb 16 2006, 10:26 AM

Hi Dave,
The new gummy Japan Rocs are very cool. I think some are just over 150g. How does it actually work in the Japan Open? Do they weigh the discs? Is it like 150 class and they allow a few grams over, or is it an honor system? I don't know if I'll ever get to play in the Japan Open, but I am curious.
Thanks,
Axis

davei · Feb 16 2006, 10:43 AM

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dave,
you finally have the star TL link on your discs page but it is a dead link. are they already out or is this a mistake?

No, they are not out yet, but very soon as they have been running for a couple of weeks.

davei · Feb 16 2006, 10:45 AM

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Hi Dave,
The new gummy Japan Rocs are very cool. I think some are just over 150g. How does it actually work in the Japan Open? Do they weigh the discs? Is it like 150 class and they allow a few grams over, or is it an honor system? I don't know if I'll ever get to play in the Japan Open, but I am curious.
Thanks,
Axis

They Japanese are very scrupulous. I believe they check every disc they get in Japan. They may also check the Japanese player's discs. They have not checked the American player's discs yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do in the future.

superq16504 · Feb 16 2006, 10:46 AM

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Hi Dave,
The new gummy Japan Rocs are very cool. I think some are just over 150g. How does it actually work in the Japan Open? Do they weigh the discs? Is it like 150 class and they allow a few grams over, or is it an honor system? I don't know if I'll ever get to play in the Japan Open, but I am curious.
Thanks,
Axis

this is a good question, I have several discs that I took to a friend who has a digital scale (

) almost all of them weighed a few grams more than they said one of my rocs weighed 191, that is a little heavier than the 176 it was factory marked with.

axis · Feb 16 2006, 10:50 AM

Hi Dave,
How long were the Ontario rocs produced? A couple of years? Maybe 1995-1996? Surely not a very big window.
Thanks,
Axis

thetruthxl · Feb 16 2006, 11:00 AM

Hi Dave, the "New Troof" here....

How's the production of the 2006 champion rocs coming?
Any spy photos of the art contest winners yet? I would love to know what I"m going to get!!
With that, are they going to contact my from my partner package concerning my allottment of rocs or do I need to contact them? If the latter, please PM me the info!
Thanks!!!!

flynvegas · Feb 16 2006, 11:30 AM

I emailed Zonedriven asking this same question. Response was they will contact us soon. They weren't sure of the release date, they're waiting on stamping. But, they're still shooting for March 1st.

Feb 16 2006, 11:53 AM

There is no way that pro wraiths are more durable than star wraiths. Sorry. Maybe you got a defective disc.

thetruthxl · Feb 16 2006, 03:54 PM

true dat. My star wraith has taken some solid hits that put more than one pro wraith into early retirement. I was absolutely amazed by the durability of the star line!!! Don't let the grip fool you, this stuff is like the TuffSkins of disc golf!

mf100forever · Feb 17 2006, 02:18 AM

Dave,
when did you start with the abbreviations under the discs?

davei · Feb 17 2006, 06:57 AM

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Hi Dave,
The new gummy Japan Rocs are very cool. I think some are just over 150g. How does it actually work in the Japan Open? Do they weigh the discs? Is it like 150 class and they allow a few grams over, or is it an honor system? I don't know if I'll ever get to play in the Japan Open, but I am curious.
Thanks,
Axis

this is a good question, I have several discs that I took to a friend who has a digital scale (

) almost all of them weighed a few grams more than they said one of my rocs weighed 191, that is a little heavier than the 176 it was factory marked with.

All of those discs can be returned. That 191 Roc probably should be returned.

davei · Feb 17 2006, 07:06 AM

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Hi Dave,
How long were the Ontario rocs produced? A couple of years? Maybe 1995-1996? Surely not a very big window.
Thanks,
Axis

I am not sure exactly how long it was produced, but it was used up to 1997 or 98, maybe longer. The starting date is a little more vague, but I believe it started in 1988-89, but at that time the core engraving said San Marino. The engraving was later changed to Ontario. The Classic Roc, (the 175 gm max small Roc), used the same core, so the engraving for both would have changed at the same time.

davei · Feb 17 2006, 07:11 AM

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Hi Dave, the "New Troof" here....

How's the production of the 2006 champion rocs coming?
Any spy photos of the art contest winners yet? I would love to know what I"m going to get!!
With that, are they going to contact my from my partner package concerning my allottment of rocs or do I need to contact them? If the latter, please PM me the info!
Thanks!!!!

The USDGC Champion Rocs have all been shipped to Rock Hill. You would have to get your info or spy pics from them. I believe Zonedriven is handling them, but it might be Innova East.

davei · Feb 17 2006, 08:18 AM

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Dave,
when did you start with the abbreviations under the discs?

I think it was around 1995 when we moved here to Rancho Cucamonga. I don't remember marking letters before, so it was probably after that.

Feb 15 2006, 07:48 PM	#4771
AviarX PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwest of Indianapolis Posts: 2,504	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, i pulled an old 10x KC Cheetah out today and was surprised how well that baby performs. My friend thought i should keep it in the bag. Any chance whatsoever you could be talked into STAR Cheetahs?

Feb 15 2006, 08:42 PM	#4778
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! [QUOTE] Dave, i pulled an old 10x KC Cheetah out today and was surprised how well that baby performs. My friend thought i should keep it in the bag. Any chance whatsoever you could be talked into STAR Cheetahs? [/quote The Cheetah used to be Ken C's favorite driver before he went to the TeeBird. Not much chance in the regular line, but always a special run chance. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Feb 15 2006, 09:13 PM	#4779
bfunkyp Membership Expired Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 250	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, nice art on the DX Wraith. A huge thanks as well for the STAR plastic, I will be filling my bag with it. __________________ Peace and nothin but love, Green Mountain Disc Golf Club

Feb 16 2006, 10:21 AM	#4786
HoppingHessian Membership Expired Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 48	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! dave, you finally have the star TL link on your discs page but it is a dead link. are they already out or is this a mistake?

Feb 16 2006, 10:26 AM	#4787
axis Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Roc City Posts: 50	Japan Roc weights? Hi Dave, The new gummy Japan Rocs are very cool. I think some are just over 150g. How does it actually work in the Japan Open? Do they weigh the discs? Is it like 150 class and they allow a few grams over, or is it an honor system? I don't know if I'll ever get to play in the Japan Open, but I am curious. Thanks, Axis

Feb 16 2006, 10:50 AM	#4791
axis Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Roc City Posts: 50	Ontario Rocs Hi Dave, How long were the Ontario rocs produced? A couple of years? Maybe 1995-1996? Surely not a very big window. Thanks, Axis

Feb 16 2006, 11:00 AM	#4792
thetruthxl Community Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home of the 2008 Worlds Posts: 973	Re: Ontario Rocs Hi Dave, the "New Troof" here.... How's the production of the 2006 champion rocs coming? Any spy photos of the art contest winners yet? I would love to know what I"m going to get!! With that, are they going to contact my from my partner package concerning my allottment of rocs or do I need to contact them? If the latter, please PM me the info! Thanks!!!!

Feb 16 2006, 11:30 AM	#4793
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Ontario Rocs I emailed Zonedriven asking this same question. Response was they will contact us soon. They weren't sure of the release date, they're waiting on stamping. But, they're still shooting for March 1st.

Feb 16 2006, 11:53 AM	#4794
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ontario Rocs There is no way that pro wraiths are more durable than star wraiths. Sorry. Maybe you got a defective disc.

Feb 16 2006, 03:54 PM	#4795
thetruthxl Community Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Home of the 2008 Worlds Posts: 973	Re: Ontario Rocs true dat. My star wraith has taken some solid hits that put more than one pro wraith into early retirement. I was absolutely amazed by the durability of the star line!!! Don't let the grip fool you, this stuff is like the TuffSkins of disc golf!

Feb 17 2006, 02:18 AM	#4796
mf100forever PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lulea Sweden Posts: 752	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Here!!!!!!!!!! Dave, when did you start with the abbreviations under the discs? __________________ (Disc)-gracefully yours, MF100forever # 3418 http://www.discgolfsweden.se/english/index.aspx

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