Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

A champion Stingray would be the coolest disc on the planet. It would also compliment the champion Cobra that has a dedicated, warm, fuzzy spot in my bag. I'll cross my fingers for you, Dave, thanks for trying this one again.

> regular production roc maybe?

Don't hold your breath waiting. A regular production Roc in champion plastic is likely to undercut seriously the demand for USDGC CE Rocs, and consequently, financial support for the USDGC. After all, how many people are going to pay $25 for one USDGC-stamped CE Roc if they can buy 2 vanilla "Innova Swoosh"-stamped Champion Rocs for the same money?

[boru]

Well, now that this has popped up here . . .

Felix, thanks for the explanation about the candy Rocs.

What I still don't understand is, why not make more of the fundraiser discs? It seems to me someone could come up with a "yearly demand" number that would represent the most CE Rocs they could sell in one year without saturating the market and hurting sales of future editions. By producing this number every year, Innova could maximize financial support for the USDGC and keep the hungry mobs happy.

I don't know how this plays out with the tax deductions, as I couldn't get the IRS web site to work.

[davei]

Dusty, I do think we will do a least one limited production run. I really like the DX Gator and have doubts about the Champion version. Too bouncy. But we'll see.

[davei]

The Roc needs to have value intrinsically and as a collector disc. That's why the numbers are limited. Next year's issue may be larger, to accommodate the increased demand, but will still be small enough to maintain the collector value. It doesn't seem to be enough for the buyer to know and take pride in the fact that he is helping to make the USDGC great.

[gokayaksteven]

i take pride in helping usdgc, and am willing to pay the $, but would like to throw the ce roc and therefore need backups. it is just weird that the most popular disc in the sport is only available in the cheapest plastic. maybe if you find anymore millinium [se] plastic you could at least give us the se roc. not complaining, as i throw the roc more than any other disc and keep 4 in my bag---it just gets frustrating. especially with the wasps out there now. i hate to go that route though. as long as they do not make x-wasps a reg. production item [to act as a se roc] we are okay. thanks again dave for the great products

We will probably do all of our models at least once in the future. The near future, I am not sure yet. I think I mentioned Gator, but not sure if it went to this new forum, which I am very shakey with as yet.

Good news on a possible Gator! In my opinion the Gator is one of those discs that is highly underated. Just curious what you mean by, to bouncy?

I like the way my DX Gator hits the ground and dies after a small bounce. Candy plastic doesn't die when it hits generally, more often it has a tendency to bounce or skip.

I can't log on, and it's doing weird things, so please bear with me for now. Dave D

[widiscgolf]

no Problem Dave, we won't hold it against you. Haha

Josh
WiDiscGolf
josh@widiscgolf.com

Thanks Dave. I couldn't figure it out either so I just started over.

[rrps]

Well Dave, how about seeing a Gator in the Pro plastic, like the Roc, and Whippet. Personally, I've never liked midrange discs in the floppy stuff, but a nice, stiff Gator could be fun.

[discette]

Just me.

Ryan, scroll back a page or two. The post where I asked the same question got deleted in the switch, but Dave's answer is there.

[rrps]

I saw the post about the candy gators, but not the pro ones. I am way to lazy to scroll back more than a few pages, if you see it, could you quote it for me? Thanks

Ryan, You are right, I guess I did ask about Champion Gators rather than Pro. I'm still confused after the name changes. Pro Gators were what I was thinking also.

holy cow that was tough getting on just a test. Location denial. I guess that means you are traveling in Egypt.

[rob]

Dave, how's Egypt?

[davei]

Discette was there. It said so in her profile. Location: In denial.

[rob]

Sorry Dave, thought you were on an expidetion, looking for new plastics
Anything new for the holidays, for all us good little boys and girls?

[davei]

Rob, I am always looking for new plastics. We may have a couple of new releases in Champion plastic. The Whippet for sure, the Gator maybe. These probably won't be mainline, but they will be available. Working on one or two new for next year.

OOOOOOOooooo........GATOR!!!!

[rob]

I need to make a Christmas list

[cantrell]

Dave,
I caught the answer to this a month or two ago but don't remember what it is. When are you guys releasing the Starfire as a regular production disk? Early next year is what I think you said. Do you have a planned release date (or month even)?
Kurt

[davei]

Kurt, the Starfire will remain a fundraiser into next year.

Bummer......glad I have one!!

not a prefered color, but its max weight....(dark purple)

maybe you'll finally get me to switch from the pegasus to the whippet... i still have 6 new ones and 14 broke in just right, so maybe in 2010...

Dave --
A big thanks for making the Champion Aero as part of the production line... I don't know if they are exactly the same as my CE Aero, but at least I don't have to sweat the potential replacement. Excited about that Candy Whippet too, that will be regular production, right ? When can we expect to see it ?