Old Oct 27 2003, 07:20 AM   #421
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AJ., I took the stiff ones out of stock about two weeks ago. Since then everything coming from here should have been the softer kind. I am not sure about the stamp, but you can definitely tell from the feel.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 10:07 AM   #422
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Are they going to be similar to the 3x?
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Old Oct 27 2003, 12:32 PM   #423
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They are similar to the first two runs. They have the 4x stamp on them. I have been using them for quite a while. I have only used the first run and this run for any length of time. This run is a little more durable than the first, but fly the same.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 02:02 PM   #424
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Are you still producing discs in Rancho Cucamonga? I beleive they have problems with forest fires there. I hope everyone is O.K.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 02:12 PM   #425
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discinterested, we are fine, thank you. The fire has passed and left lots of ash and smoke. Some people are still evacuated, and schools are closed today, but I believe everything is getting back to normal.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 03:59 PM   #426
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so what comes next, the floods or the earthquake?
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Old Oct 27 2003, 05:44 PM   #427
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Russell,

Next is the new disc, the "Locust" [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 27 2003, 05:52 PM   #428
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Mudslides follow mega-fires, Russell. Aren't you paying attention to history? [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 27 2003, 06:49 PM   #429
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What about the Frogs?
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Old Oct 27 2003, 08:34 PM   #430
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The Frogs came after The Clouds and The Wasps.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 08:36 PM   #431
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I went up into the mountains just now on my mountain bike. Practically everything north of the housing developments is burned. I rode up into the mountains to where there used to be a beautiful spring with trees all around a meadow. It is all toast. Everything is toast. All the animals are dead or gone. I saw one crow at the begining of my ascent through hell. No gnats, no flies, no bees, even though there is an apiary nearby. Lots of dead rodents and squirrels. The occasional odd bush was spared at least partially where one side was cooked but not burned, and the other was green. I rode for miles and didn't see any area that was spared. Just the housing developments below. That is good but could have been different if the Santa Ana winds had kicked up a day or so earlier. I think the houses in our area fared pretty well compared to some of the other areas which are still burning. Some of the areas I rode through were positively surreal. I rode along a flood control levee which controls mountain rain channels. The river rocks in one of the channels were a marble like mix of unburned and seared rocks with stumps of bushes sticking up. Quite twilight zone. Yes floods are probably next. That is what the flood control channels are anticipating. Homes right next to the fire are quite expensive. A high ticket price to watch mother nature close up. Fires, floods, and yes earthquakes too. The San Andreas fault is only a few miles to the north and is way overdue for a show. Stay tuned.
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Old Oct 27 2003, 10:43 PM   #432
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Pictures out of Scripps Ranch were equally surreal. Picture raging wildfire footage, only the scene is a suburban street with burning houses down both sides. I think they lost 160 or 260 homes in that area.

Palm trees are no good. They said they were exploding. The tops would catch fire and then the winds would blow the burning bits in through the attic vents to burn down houses with fire-proof tiles.
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Old Oct 28 2003, 12:42 AM   #433
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Dave,
I recently read somewhere on the internet that you have a Ph.D. Is that correct? If so, what is it in and what was your dissertation title?
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Old Oct 28 2003, 03:11 AM   #434
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Rhett, I heard the rocks were exploding.
Lots of smoke and ashe here in O'side.
Has anyone heard if Mission Trails Golf & Disc course survived.
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So, is it Dr. Dave? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old Oct 28 2003, 08:48 PM   #436
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Dave, i have noticed that on the last few champion discs i've bought that there is a little white sticker on the bottom rim. What is the reason for it. thanks.
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> What is the reason for it.

By Dave Dunipace on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 06:02 am:

discs from opposite sides could have differences due to being shipped across country. East coast discs undergo multiple temperature and pressure changes before they arrive in Carolina. The little stickers you see on Candy discs now, are placed there to prevent a more drastic change that used to happen to these discs during shipping.
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but how does this work?
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Old Oct 29 2003, 07:50 AM   #439
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steven, the stickers provide a small air gap to equalized pressure between discs. Without the stickers, air in the space between discs would get heated, or become relative pressurized by altitude and go out of the spaces. Later, when cooled or going down in altitude, the air would try tro return, but couldn't as the bottom of one disc would stick to the top of the next. It doesn't necessary affect the top discs in the box, but the extra pressure of the top discs on the lower discs makes the problem worse. The result often was concave flight plates. Some would return to normal after a while, some would not. Not good.
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Old Oct 29 2003, 03:03 PM   #440
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too cool! nice detective work.
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Old Oct 29 2003, 05:39 PM   #441
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yea---way to go Dave
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Old Oct 30 2003, 10:24 AM   #442
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Dave, any plans to make a DX Viking?
All the distance records have been set with DX-type plastic, right? Whether Innova or Discraft?
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Circle 2, yes to the DX Viking. By the beginning of the year. I don't know the answer to the distance question. In our case yes.
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Old Oct 31 2003, 02:14 PM   #444
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Discraft X plastic held at least a couple, Chris Voigt: 217.05 m, with a Discraft XS, and before that Stokely with an XL i think...
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They were both the elite versions, not the pro d base models.
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Dave, what is the next disc you'll be making in champion plastic. thanks.
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regular production roc maybe?
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I (and probably a few others) hope so.
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paul, I'm going to try the Stingray again.
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Dave, do you think you may ever come out with Champion plastic Gators?
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