Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

Parkntwoputt, no I don't. Sorry.

hey dave, what plastic is used for the CFR eagle?

[thenatureboy68]

Hey Parkntwoputt, Yes it is Starfire. I have two of them with texas team stamped. It is nice!

[Parkntwoputt]

Hey Parkntwoputt, Yes it is Starfire. I have two of them with texas team stamped. It is nice!

Thanks

Dave -- CANDY (proline as they were called) Gremlins are what I need. They are the LONGEST, and straightest midrange I have ever thrown and I am down to the one in my bag with 3 aces on it being my last one. It'd be nice it they went back into regular production, as they just started to catch on as a "hot disc" more recently. If you make them, money will come.

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule for us.

Greets, Dave

Could you tell me if there is a difference and if so, what between teebirds marked with CA and those with CAL?

RocSteady... if i remember correctly that is the 2 different runs of the TB... the TL is a seperate mold..
The earlier Champion Runs i think were with the CAL mold and the 11x was the CA mold.. THe newer champion molds i believe are CA now..
I haven't noticed a difference between the 2 molds though. Only difference that i have noticed is between the TL and the TB(for obvoius reasons)

-Scott Lewis

On a sidenote..
Dave..
You guys at innova should make a Pulsar or other type of ultimate/frisbee disc in Champion Plastic.. That would be sweet.

-Scott Lewis

i wonder if it would skip better. sounds awsome to me...hurry up and make it.

[prairie_dawg]

On a sidenote..
Dave..
You guys at innova should make a Pulsar or other type of ultimate/frisbee disc in Champion Plastic.. That would be sweet.

-Scott Lewis

Scott,

Wouldn't those platters be a bit too slippery when damp

[vwkeepontruckin]

On a sidenote..
Dave..
You guys at innova should make a Pulsar or other type of ultimate/frisbee disc in Champion Plastic.. That would be sweet.

-Scott Lewis

It would weight WAY too much...eurethyene runs really heavy.

[tafe]

call it a training device!

[jaymo]

Dave, I wanted to thank you for all the work you put into making killer discs, infact with the exception of a z-wasp (can't afford to get Champ rocs up here in Canada) I am an innova user.

I have so many discs that I needed a bigger bag, so for christmas I got one. I already had the small starter bag, and that has lasted me well so I got the tour bag. Unfortunately, now it's falling apart.

I don't know if you have anything to do with the bag making, but I see that Innova put out a "new and improved" model for 2005, are there any significant changes, b/c I think I need to get a new bag soon

Thanks

[Parkntwoputt]

Dave,

What is the "next big thing" you have coming out in disc designs this year? Any plans for a release anytime soon? If so, what plastic will it be available in?

[haroldduvall]

Dear Jaymo -

Dave is playing at the Naional Tour Event in Augusta. The hotel did not have readily avaiable internet access, so it is unlikely Dave will review his thread before Monday. If it's okay, I will try and answer your post in his place.

We expereinced probelms with some of our Tour bags. The "new and improved" Tour Bags attempts to reduce the liklihood of siuations like yours. Please e-mail Sam Ferrans at the California office at sam.ferrans@innovadiscs.com. Sam will work with you on an equitable solution for your bag replacement.

You may also e-mail me at hduvall@innovadiscgolf.com if you have any questions.


Take care,
Harold

[cbdiscpimp]

So is Innova doing a sudo-recall on the Tour bags??? Because the one I purchased also fell apart at the seams. I liked the bag but thought the durability was not so great. I still have the old bag in my basement and if i can get a discount on a new one or trade in the old one I would love to have this as a backup bag.

[haroldduvall]

Dear Steve -

The problems with the tour bag have been sporadic. We have dealt with folks individually on a facts-and-circumstances basis. If the bag provided reasonable value, then a replacement would not be warranted. On the other hand, if a Tour bag fails quickly, like Jaymo’s apparently did, we are glad to work on an equitable solution. If you would kindly e-mail me at hduvall@innovadiscgolf.com, I would be glad to review the facts and circumstances regarding your Tour Bag.

Take care.
Harold

[cbdiscpimp]

Thanks ill do that as soon as i get home as i cant access email here at work.

Thank you

Was there ever a change in the DX plastic? I have quite a few DX rocs from around '99-01 and I see the plastic then was much more durable. Its almost like the DX rocs I have now are softer, plastic-wise where as the older DX rocs will hold their flight path MUCH better after wapping a few trees and wont get totally demolished after hitting one tree...

[danielledford]

Hey Dave (or those who throw forehands alot),

What would make a better forehand disc, a Teebird or an Orc? I can get roughly 300ft from a flat, line drive forehand with my Orc. I was wondering if the extra stability of a Teebird (vs an Orc) would lend more distance for a forehand? I would appreciate any thoughts or experiences from you or anyone else...

Thanks!

Daniel

I could be wrong but I "think" an Orc is rated more stable than a Teebird therefore the Teebird would actually be a step down in the stability department.

I could be wrong but I "think" an Orc is rated more stable than a Teebird therefore the Teebird would actually be a step down in the stability department.

that would not be correct. the teebird is rated as 0 turn and 2 fade, whereas the orc is -1 turn (meaning it is more likely to anhyzer at high speed) and 3 fade (which means it will hyzer more at low speed). what this means is that you can put more "pop" on a teebird and there is less of a chance that you will flip it over (especially when throwing forehand). however, you will be sacrificing speed if you move down to the teebird. i would recommend learning to throw the orc with a hyzer release, since you'll probably get more distance that way. however, if you're looking for consistency, i'd stick with the teebirds, since that's really all i throw these days and i find them to be much more forgiving and likely to fly a straighter line.

I throw both teebirds and orcs forehand. While my furthest drive is with a broken in orc, I like to use teebirds in the under 350 range. That is about as far as I can put out a teebird. I haven't quite got the hang of consistantly throwing the orc a long way, but the hyzer flip is the way to do it. I used to throw valks sidearm from a hyzer, and they would make a gigantic s sll the way down the fairway. I have managed to snap one of the new pro starfires around 420 with a tailwind, though. They seem to be good forehand discs if you have good form, otherwise they turn over as soon as you release it.

Chris

[danielledford]

Thanks for the replies. My gut feeling was that the TB would have more "float" to it as opposed to the high speed glide that the Orc has. I think I'm going to have to try the 'Birds out for my FH.

By the way--what are the "new" 11x teebirds like, the latest runs? I tried the clear ones when they first came out a few years ago and found them nasty overstable. Have they changed at all since then?

Thanks!

Daniel

if by "new 11X teebirds" you mean the champion teebirds, then yes they are quite stable to overstable. i like them for hyzer flips into a decent headwind or strong anhyzer release controlled drives if there isn't any wind (RHBH). they're not as fast as the 10X kc teebirds, but i can't remember a time when i flipped one over and lost it right, so they are a good disc to have around if you need something that will finish left. i would try one of the new pro teebirds if you like the feel of a teebird but don't care for the overstability, because they're much closer to one of the old kc teebirds out of the box (i'd stay away from the teebird-L though, cause they have a tendency to beat in and become a roller too fast). if you're throwing forehand, the champion teebird should suit you nicely.

[20460chase]

Hi Dave. I have a question. Who determines X-outs? I have tons of X-outs, old CE and new Champion, but have never seen a worse disc than the Pro Line { original } Beast I picked up last week from Ebay. I really cant understand how this disc left the company. It is completely chewed up around the rim { I assume from a flashing remover?} I have a few Beasts that have mini dents/ chew marks, but this is far beyond that. I am so dissapointed in the quality, I am sending it back. It was not advertised that it was the worst Innova disc I have ever seen, and I am not stupid enough to hold you responsable. Im just confused how a disc of such poor quality could even leave the factory.

[Dick]

maybe it didn't look like that when it left the factory?

Beast I picked up last week from Ebay

i think you should redirect your question to Ebay.

Dave I'd like to know if there is a proline sidewinder in the works. The Champion one is a big hit with me, but am hoping a proline one would be a little less stable yet, easier to beat up, and perhaps more valuable to low-D ams.

[davei]

toolniz, the CFR Eagle is made out of candy plastic with most of them being glo too.