Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

Shouldn't they only count Open wins?
Isn't that sorta the whole idea of Open...

[20460chase]

Hi Dave. Could you tell me if the 1.6/1.7 runs of the EXP are pure CE or a hybrid KC/CE mix? Or something completely different? Thanks

i think a W.C. is a W.C. so therefore anyone who wins one should be considerd a world champion IMO.

[sf17713]

Also curious as to what the feedbcak has been on the new Bulldog. Are people liking it? Is it used mostly as another approach? A putter? Both?

Barry's been using the Bulldog as his putter lately.. I find it to be like a KC Aviar with a nice feel in the hands. It is not as soft as some say, but then again it is friggin' cold here.

[mikeP]

Dave,

Great work on the latest evolutions of Champion plastic. I just bought a new Champion Teebird and the plastic seems to have the best combination of gripiness/structural fortitude of any previous variation of premium plastic, Innova or otherwise. Any chance of a truer flying candy midrange model in the future? I really like Discraft's Buzzz, which I'm sure you're aware is simply a close replica of a Roc, but it flies truer than any of your current candy mids in my opinion. Now with Gateway's E Elements, it seems like everyone else is producing a premium plastic stable Roc-like disc except the Roc people themselves. It would be great to have one of your discs that fits this bill because your Champion plastic is my favorite and you designed the mold they are all based off of. Thanks for your consideration.

i agree with discspeed, i need a less stable roc right out of the box. for now i'll stick with SM sharks since the ontarios don't work for me..

what's the difference between SM sharks and ontario?

i think a W.C. is a W.C. so therefore anyone who wins one should be considerd a world champion IMO.

Well, considering that JK and KC discs are actually "JK PRO" and "KC PRO discs, it makes sense to enumerate only their OPEN, [i[i.e.[/i], "Pro" championships on their discs' hotstamps.

ontarios have a more concave/sharper bottom half.

[davei]

Chase the EXPs were run in a plastic resembling the current Pro, but it was a little different.

[davei]

discspeed, good idea. I think the blunt nose Roc would do fine in candy. We used it for one run of KC, but most KC Roc fans wanted the more overstable type. I am not sure this idea would fly past the USDGC committee however. We'll see.

[jaymo]

Dave do you know what type of Aviar the CE aviars were??? putter or driver mold... I think they were small bead??

and just so I dont hav to keep asking you... how can you tell the difference b/w the driver mold and the putter? I gather the driver has a lower profile, but is this correct?

thanks alot

discspeed, good idea. I think the blunt nose Roc would do fine in candy. We used it for one run of KC, but most KC Roc fans wanted the more overstable type. I am not sure this idea would fly past the USDGC committee however. We'll see.

blunt-nosed candy Rocs would definitely find a spot in my bag.

on the subject of Juliana's 5 World Championships, is it still true that in the not-so-distant future all JK and KC signature discs will say World Champion and not list the number of Championships they've won?

[davei]

Jaymo, the CEs were putter mold. I think some were small bead and some were big bead. The Driver mold is higher profile than the putter mold, and has a blunter nose.

[davei]

Robj, I believe that is what we have gone to with the signature Champions.

[mikeP]

discspeed, good idea. I think the blunt nose Roc would do fine in candy. We used it for one run of KC, but most KC Roc fans wanted the more overstable type. I am not sure this idea would fly past the USDGC committee however. We'll see.

That would be greatest thing ever! The sharp nose USDGC Rocs would still possess incredible value as an overstable partner to the blunt nose (who is going to carry only one mold ), and as a collector's disc with the typical cool artwork.

on the subject of Juliana's 5 World Championships, is it still true that in the not-so-distant future all JK and KC signature discs will say World Champion and not list the number of Championships they've won?

Robj, I believe that is what we have gone to with the signature Champions.

Given all the World Championships Innova racks up, it sounds like a practical solution to the hotstamping for signature discs

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Thanks, Dave.What about a large run of the Climo/Schultz Glo Rocs? I would of loved to have one but dont have the money always when they are available, much like the USDGCs,which is why I was throwing a Z-Wasp, until it drowned in a pond.

[20460chase]

Also, What mold{s} make up the QMS? I think these are the straitest mid range on the market in high-end plastic { opaque}and think they fly like a beat up DX Roc, or a big putter.

[davei]

chase, the Qms is most similar to a Shark, but it has it's own unique flight characteristics.

[WakandaRat]

Thanks, Dave.What about a large run of the Climo/Schultz Glo Rocs? I would of loved to have one but dont have the money always when they are available, much like the USDGCs,which is why I was throwing a Z-Wasp, until it drowned in a pond.

I think they made like 1500, 1550 ?

[thenatureboy68]

Hey Dave, Since Big bead classic aviar dont make anymore. Please bring it back!!!! I have few of them left. It beats up real fast when you keep using one putter in the bag.... DO you know any other putters similar to bb classic aviar? Also, do you have any more in the warehouse like send me the whole box of it? I don't know if I can call warehouse and send me the box since I am not innova dealer or something? Thanks

[jeterdawg]

Dave,
Are there any more molds being considered for production using the candy glow plastic??? Personally, I love this plastic, and think it's the most like the CE was. I snatched a few of the Candy Clow Roc's and I love that disc! Also, I started throwing a Glow TL since it seems to throw truer than the non-glow one I've got. I'd love to see a full line of Candy Glow discs, whether CFR or a regular line. They are the perfect balance of grippiness, durability, and cool factor (it's pretty cool to walk through the house just after turning off the lights and see that Glow Roc lighting up the whole DG bag!).

If nothing else, I'd love to see the Firebird, Orc, Valkyrie/Beast, and Aviar in the candy glow plastic.

[davei]

Joey, the closest we make now is KC Pro Aviar, but you might have to wear that one in a while.

[davei]

jeterdawg, we are going to make more candy glow for fundraising. Most of those discs you named plus the Starfire will be made.

[jeterdawg]

Awesome news! Thanks Dave

(PS I really hope there's a putter in that mix!)

[20460chase]

Thanks, Dave. Its funny, as I was never a fan of the Shark.
The newest KCs are a little softer then usual, and shouldnt take much time to fly like the Classic.I think this is the best run of KCs since the 9x.

[jaymo]

Dave, I have a worn in KC aviar (175g) that I love for putting, sometimes, however, it's a little slippery in the rain.

Anything Dx that resembles it?

thanks for all your help

[DiscGolfTool]

Jaymo,
The harder JK Aviar-x and the DX Big Bead Grid Aviars are great in the rain.
Too bad they don't make either of them anymore. (Hint, Hint)
Cheers,
Matt

[thenatureboy68]

Jaymo,
The harder JK Aviar-x and the DX Big Bead Grid Aviars are great in the rain.
Too bad they don't make either of them anymore. (Hint, Hint)
Cheers,
Matt