Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

Apr 10 2003, 08:51 PM

What other Champion discs will Innova be introducing in the near future?

gokayaksteven · Apr 10 2003, 11:17 PM

check their website

Apr 11 2003, 09:44 AM

thanks

20460chase · Jun 03 2003, 09:44 PM

Dave,I have a SE TL that ive had for a year at least. it seems to have alot stiffer and durable plastic than my others .I have seen/had a light red SE TL that was given to me that has the same traits. thier was also green SE TLs that came with the red/pink ones,all having the bar stamp with dots or champaine bubbles in the letters.Someone told me that these were early CE test runs / fused plastics.Is there any truth to that and if so was it just these three colors? Any help or history would be great.thanks. p.s. i only bring up the stamp because besides a solid or rainbow stamp the only one ive seen is the bubbles,on the SEs.

davei · Jun 04 2003, 08:02 AM

chase, I believe the earliest SE TLs were an opaque red. I don't know about the hotstamps. A subsequent run had more colors, but were still opaque. When you can see through the plastic and see bubbles, that is a later run, with a different plastic formulae.

dannyreeves · Jun 04 2003, 09:38 AM

Dave, do you know where I can find a stiff Aero? I bought one and it is in that Aviar Putt and Approach type plastic. I have heard that there are some in stiffer, Big Bead Aviar type plastic. Is this true?

davei · Jun 04 2003, 12:35 PM

I don't think we have made any stiffer Aeros for a while.

dannyreeves · Jun 04 2003, 01:03 PM

how long is a while?

Jun 04 2003, 02:09 PM

Hello Dave! some of the new proline firebirds are marked FB opposed to just F. Just wondering if there is a difference in the discs? Thank you for the help!

Jun 04 2003, 06:14 PM

What about "first run" Valks?

SOme say they were only Red plastic?

Some say you can tell by the rings on the bottom center. But that doesn't match the color theory.

Dave, is there an good way top tell first run from latter, besdied the bubbles and such mentioned earlier?

Thans

JS

davei · Jun 04 2003, 08:57 PM

KidR, probably a year or more, except for the candy Aero. Chad, no difference. John, first run was opaque red and blueberry. The edge of the disc was pretty sharp with flash and they were pretty stiff.

20460chase · Jun 04 2003, 11:35 PM

Thanks Dave.But what i mean isnt bubbles in the plastic itself but the design of the innova stamp. It was just a way out thought.I do love the old SE TLs and the new pro gremlins.Still waiting on a archangel in CE .Any chance?Thanks.

davei · Jun 05 2003, 07:28 AM

chase, we made some candy Archangels. They're to be used for fundraisers of some sort. They're not as unstable as I would have liked, but they're better than the first four attempts.

discchucker · Jun 05 2003, 10:10 AM

Did my eyes read correctly...a candy archangel???

In my best homer simpson....Mmmmm, candy archangel...

I want one...

Jun 05 2003, 10:51 AM

Haven't messed with Dave in awhile...

Candy RAMS. Just a small run of 180's would be nice. [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif[/img]

xterramatt · Jun 05 2003, 10:55 AM

Candy, it's not just for breakfast anymore...

http://www.innovadiscs.com

Jun 05 2003, 11:46 AM

ohhhhhhhhh man, i've been waitin for the candy archangel ever since it came out. Great work dave i can not wait to get one.

20460chase · Jun 05 2003, 12:31 PM

SWEET .Thanks Dave.It would make my day if you said the gremlin will live in pro plastic.

Jun 05 2003, 02:26 PM

I'm with Randy on that one!!!! CANDY RAMS!!! SWEET

gnduke · Jun 05 2003, 02:59 PM

Candy AA ? - Fundraisers ? - Where ? - When ?

xterramatt · Jun 05 2003, 04:04 PM

Keep your eye on this page http://www.innovadiscs.com/events/index.html for information on where to buy Candy Fundraiser discs. I will update it when new orders go out. If you have CFR discs to sell and you aren't listed, email me your tournament and contact info with discs that you have to sell.

dannyreeves · Jun 10 2003, 05:20 PM

What tournaments are carrying the Candy Archangels?

discchucker · Jun 17 2003, 12:40 PM

Dave, I was wondering what the lightest weight is that the Champion Monster's come in?

davei · Jun 17 2003, 09:26 PM

DC, Champion Monsters generally go down to the mid 60s, but some have made it as low as the high 50s. The lower weights are more inconsistent stability wise, so we don't run many of them. We may have corrected this with the last run, but the lower weights weren't tested.

Jun 18 2003, 07:43 AM

Dave D - Is Innova ever going to make a disc or a special stamp for team member Dave Greenwell? I know he's done a lot for Innova and for disc golf locally and regionally. Of course, I could be a little partial, since I live in Louisville.
How about a Champion Condor or Stingray for him?.....
Bink

space76 · Jun 18 2003, 08:55 AM

Dave, is there any reason a stamp would make a disc more stable?

davei · Jun 18 2003, 12:23 PM

Proto, a CE Condor is a possibility. Dave is one of the best Condor throwers.

davei · Jun 18 2003, 12:26 PM

cracker, the stamp itself would not change anything, but the way the stamp is applied might. There is several tons of pressure and a lot of heat involved. The plastic could be reshaped by the process.

Jun 18 2003, 01:33 PM

What is up with the pro-line discs and now the champion plastic again. are these latest champion discs the same plastic as the pro-line, and what is up with the big hype about pro-line and then going back to champion...

confused plastic buyer

rhett · Jun 18 2003, 01:52 PM

Dave, wouldn't a run of 10 CE Condors use up all your stock of plastic and then you'd be stuck trying to reformulate again? [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif[/img]

Apr 10 2003, 08:51 PM	#1
Guest Posts: n/a	Question for Dave D What other Champion discs will Innova be introducing in the near future?

Apr 10 2003, 11:17 PM	#2
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Question for Dave D check their website

Apr 11 2003, 09:44 AM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D thanks

Jun 03 2003, 09:44 PM	#4
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Question for Dave D Dave,I have a SE TL that ive had for a year at least. it seems to have alot stiffer and durable plastic than my others .I have seen/had a light red SE TL that was given to me that has the same traits. thier was also green SE TLs that came with the red/pink ones,all having the bar stamp with dots or champaine bubbles in the letters.Someone told me that these were early CE test runs / fused plastics.Is there any truth to that and if so was it just these three colors? Any help or history would be great.thanks. p.s. i only bring up the stamp because besides a solid or rainbow stamp the only one ive seen is the bubbles,on the SEs. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jun 04 2003, 08:02 AM	#5
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D chase, I believe the earliest SE TLs were an opaque red. I don't know about the hotstamps. A subsequent run had more colors, but were still opaque. When you can see through the plastic and see bubbles, that is a later run, with a different plastic formulae. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2003, 09:38 AM	#6
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, do you know where I can find a stiff Aero? I bought one and it is in that Aviar Putt and Approach type plastic. I have heard that there are some in stiffer, Big Bead Aviar type plastic. Is this true?

Jun 04 2003, 12:35 PM	#7
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D I don't think we have made any stiffer Aeros for a while. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2003, 01:03 PM	#8
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D how long is a while?

Jun 04 2003, 02:09 PM	#9
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Hello Dave! some of the new proline firebirds are marked FB opposed to just F. Just wondering if there is a difference in the discs? Thank you for the help!

Jun 04 2003, 06:14 PM	#10
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D What about "first run" Valks? SOme say they were only Red plastic? Some say you can tell by the rings on the bottom center. But that doesn't match the color theory. Dave, is there an good way top tell first run from latter, besdied the bubbles and such mentioned earlier? Thans JS

Jun 04 2003, 08:57 PM	#11
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D KidR, probably a year or more, except for the candy Aero. Chad, no difference. John, first run was opaque red and blueberry. The edge of the disc was pretty sharp with flash and they were pretty stiff. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2003, 11:35 PM	#12
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Question for Dave D Thanks Dave.But what i mean isnt bubbles in the plastic itself but the design of the innova stamp. It was just a way out thought.I do love the old SE TLs and the new pro gremlins.Still waiting on a archangel in CE .Any chance?Thanks. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jun 05 2003, 07:28 AM	#13
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D chase, we made some candy Archangels. They're to be used for fundraisers of some sort. They're not as unstable as I would have liked, but they're better than the first four attempts. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 05 2003, 10:10 AM	#14
discchucker Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On the course banging 50 footers Posts: 839	Re: Question for Dave D Did my eyes read correctly...a candy archangel??? In my best homer simpson....Mmmmm, candy archangel... I want one... __________________ Winning isn't everything--but wanting to win is. Gateway Disc Sports Team Gateway

Jun 05 2003, 10:51 AM	#15
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Haven't messed with Dave in awhile... Candy RAMS. Just a small run of 180's would be nice. [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif[/img]

Jun 05 2003, 10:55 AM	#16
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Question for Dave D Candy, it's not just for breakfast anymore... http://www.innovadiscs.com __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

Jun 05 2003, 11:46 AM	#17
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D ohhhhhhhhh man, i've been waitin for the candy archangel ever since it came out. Great work dave i can not wait to get one.

Jun 05 2003, 12:31 PM	#18
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Question for Dave D SWEET .Thanks Dave.It would make my day if you said the gremlin will live in pro plastic. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jun 05 2003, 02:26 PM	#19
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D I'm with Randy on that one!!!! CANDY RAMS!!! SWEET

Jun 05 2003, 02:59 PM	#20
gnduke PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 7,181	Re: Question for Dave D Candy AA ? - Fundraisers ? - Where ? - When ?

Jun 05 2003, 04:04 PM	#21
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Question for Dave D Keep your eye on this page http://www.innovadiscs.com/events/index.html for information on where to buy Candy Fundraiser discs. I will update it when new orders go out. If you have CFR discs to sell and you aren't listed, email me your tournament and contact info with discs that you have to sell. __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

Jun 10 2003, 05:20 PM	#22
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D What tournaments are carrying the Candy Archangels?

Jun 17 2003, 12:40 PM	#23
discchucker Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On the course banging 50 footers Posts: 839	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, I was wondering what the lightest weight is that the Champion Monster's come in? __________________ Winning isn't everything--but wanting to win is. Gateway Disc Sports Team Gateway

Jun 17 2003, 09:26 PM	#24
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D DC, Champion Monsters generally go down to the mid 60s, but some have made it as low as the high 50s. The lower weights are more inconsistent stability wise, so we don't run many of them. We may have corrected this with the last run, but the lower weights weren't tested. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 18 2003, 07:43 AM	#25
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave D - Is Innova ever going to make a disc or a special stamp for team member Dave Greenwell? I know he's done a lot for Innova and for disc golf locally and regionally. Of course, I could be a little partial, since I live in Louisville. How about a Champion Condor or Stingray for him?..... Bink

Jun 18 2003, 08:55 AM	#26
space76 Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denton,TX Posts: 441	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, is there any reason a stamp would make a disc more stable?

Jun 18 2003, 12:23 PM	#27
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Proto, a CE Condor is a possibility. Dave is one of the best Condor throwers. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 18 2003, 12:26 PM	#28
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D cracker, the stamp itself would not change anything, but the way the stamp is applied might. There is several tons of pressure and a lot of heat involved. The plastic could be reshaped by the process. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 18 2003, 01:33 PM	#29
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D What is up with the pro-line discs and now the champion plastic again. are these latest champion discs the same plastic as the pro-line, and what is up with the big hype about pro-line and then going back to champion... confused plastic buyer

Jun 18 2003, 01:52 PM	#30
rhett PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ignoramusville Posts: 7,032	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, wouldn't a run of 10 CE Condors use up all your stock of plastic and then you'd be stuck trying to reformulate again? [img]/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif[/img]

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