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[JHBlader86]

Originally Posted by RhynoBoy

I heard they may be in the player's pack at the Memorial, not sure if they are plans before that or not.

It seems there might be the same consistency issues that other wide winged discs have. One discrafter says his is overstable, and another can't throw his in the air because all it wants to do is roll.

This is what Patrick Blazek told me on Facebook...

"they made two runs though, a less stable one and a stable one. The stable one didn't have a lot of glide but was very fast and consistent. The less stable was really fast and glided really well, but still had a hard finish left when it slowed down. Those were just testers so not gonna be exactly the same as what comes out."

[Gator515]

It sounds like they will actually be released as a fundraiser disc for the Memorial at first. I'm just looking for that date...I'd love to throw them before the snow comes.

[pg043]

Any plans to make the X force into regular production?

[dgdave]

If not, I have 4 up for grabs

[drdisc]

What happened to the Focus?

[JHBlader86]

Originally Posted by drdisc

What happened to the Focus?

What's become of the Nebula is my question.

[olsen129]

Originally Posted by JHBlader86

What's become of the Nebula is my question.

Was that the name they were thinking about for the new high speed driver?

[mf100forever]

Originally Posted by olsen129

Was that the name they were thinking about for the new high speed driver?

Nuke

[warlocks00]

Originally Posted by olsen129

Was that the name they were thinking about for the new high speed driver?

The Nebula was the name given to last year(2008) ace race disc.

[olsen129]

Originally Posted by mf100forever

Nuke

I got to test the Nuke the other day and here is what I thought of it...

The Nuke is a very fast wide rimmed driver and is noticably bigger than a Force. My thoughts on the disc was that it went far. The Nuke has to be thrown with a bit of hyzer. It hyzer flips, slowly turns right, and will slowly hyzer near the end of its flight. I think the flight is similar to the ESP Flash or a seasoned Force but farther. I have also been throwing power rollers and long/high anhyzers. The Nuke can not handle any kind of head wind or left to right wind. Big arms may struggle with controlling the Nuke.

[Big E]

It is nice to see some feed back on this thread again from a insider.

[rickb]

Hero I need some help here if you would. What's the deal with the Wasp? It seems as though Discraft is discontinuing some of the plastics this will be available in. No more D, X or ESP versions is what I'm to understand. Is this correct?
As always thanks for all of your help.

[drdisc]

Any other Nuke testers out there?

[mf100forever]

What about the Nuke SS, is it also going to be released soon?

[LStephens]

I must have got the stable Nukes..because it isn't anywhere near flippy. My seasoned Force will turn over in a head wind but these Yellow 170G and 174G Nukes just laugh at a head wind. Right now they fly like a Destroyer except I'm getting maybe 20 feet more distance much more consistently. I can't wait to get a months worth of seasoning on them so they straighten out a bit more and can get even more distance out of them. Then again I'm throwing in <40F weather and my distance is zapped on everything I throw...maybe when it gets hot again I'll be flipping these things over...but I doubt I will when new. I tried to anny an uphill wooded hole and the Nuke would not go right very far...it went a long way...but ended up way to far left for that shot to work...A seasoned Force works..but not a new Nuke.

I've thrown them into a head wind...downwind...cross winds...and new..the Nuke does really care that much....or atleast my stable ones don't....yours may be different.

[lionofjudah]

Okay, I'm looking for stable Waspsssss. I have a Wasp from 2003 that is awesome and exactly what my bag is looking for. Are the older molds the more stable ones? Or is this one just a fluke. What about the 1st run Z wasps, are these stable?

I've tried a handful of newer run wasps and been disappointed. I've had a few of these that are less stable that some buzzzes that I have.

I will say I haven't tried the newest stamped wasps. Are they going to be stable?

Help...

[schick]

Originally Posted by drdisc

Any other Nuke testers out there?

I also was able to test it a bit and really loved what I saw. It surely is fast, quite a bit faster than the Surges I love and throw. My stable go to driver has been the first run orange Forces and I must say I think the Nuke may replace them. Some of the production run Forces were very stable, a bit too much for me I suppose, so the first runs were not as bad and easier for a weak arm like me to control. The Nuke flew similar to those first run Forces, but seemed to get there much easier and more quickly. I also was ripping that thing with a side arm, it will most likely replace the Force for a side arm. This will definitely be a popular disc once it hits main stream! Keep up the great work Discraft!!

[mikeP]

Originally Posted by lionofjudah

Okay, I'm looking for stable Waspsssss. I have a Wasp from 2003 that is awesome and exactly what my bag is looking for. Are the older molds the more stable ones? Or is this one just a fluke. What about the 1st run Z wasps, are these stable?

I've tried a handful of newer run wasps and been disappointed. I've had a few of these that are less stable that some buzzzes that I have.

I will say I haven't tried the newest stamped wasps. Are they going to be stable?

Help...

A friend of mine had a new circle stamped Z wasp and it was the most overstable one I've thrown in some time.

[drdisc]

A couple of big arms tested the Nuke today. Both were very happy.

[PatrickSmith]

It seems like it has been a long while since anything new came out in FLX plastic. I am curious if anything like the force or stalker or anything else for that matter will be coming out in FLX.

[JerryChesterson]

Originally Posted by drdisc

A couple of big arms tested the Nuke today. Both were very happy.

I tested it out at a practice field this weekend and liked it. Then in my round I only got one chance to throw it bit I did bomb it for my longest drive of the day.

[ChrisEads]

Is it true that the Wasp is being discontinued?

[the_kid]

Originally Posted by ChrisEads

Is it true that the Wasp is being discontinued?

Pretty sure they are just going to make it in Z only. Discontinuing the ESP, X, and D

[warlocks00]

Originally Posted by ChrisEads

Is it true that the Wasp is being discontinued?

Man I sure hope not, I LOVE THE WASP!!!!

Plus it is probably the mid-range I sell the most of....in Z plastic that is.

[gippy]

Originally Posted by warlocks00

Man I sure hope not, I LOVE THE WASP!!!!

Plus it is probably the mid-range I sell the most of....in Z plastic that is.

You'll just have to throw Rocs Now LOL

[pdorries]

I am not very familiar with discraft and their different/older runs of discs...

on the subject of the wasp...

which runs on the Z wasp were the ones that were stiffer. My friend had one that felt way more firm that all the newer ones. the newer ones to me feel a little gummier and not as stiff. This particular one was tie dye and purchased brand new about 3 years ago.

does any one have any idea where to find ones like this, or even know what im talking about? I looked on ebay for z wasp and its hard to tell if they are newer ones or older, im assuming most of them are new.

thanks for any help

[ChrisEads]

I have noticed that the ELITE z wasps are the more overstable stiffer versions and the new Z wasps were the gummier less stable wasps but you also have to make sure to get them in heavier weights Paul as I have like four or five that are the stiffer one but the one that comes in at 170 in weight isnt as stable as the others. Also the more milky the plastic the stiffer I find them

[warlocks00]

Originally Posted by gippy

You'll just have to throw Rocs Now LOL

Oh, I've got a stack at the house...so that won't happen!
Not to mention I sell discs at work, so I know where more are!

LONG LIVE THE WASP!!!!!

[JerryChesterson]

Before I review the disc, I’ll offer a little information about my game. My normal controlled max distance 360'. By normal controlled max distance I mean the distance I can reasonably expect to throw with no wind and with a smooth, controlled full power release, the kind of throw that I'd use for control and power. Sure I can try and crush one and can get those over 400', but that isn't controlled power. Those types of throws often miss their target, hit a tree, go nose up, or turn over into poor rollers. Those throws aren't the types of throws I used with confidence in a tourney. Too often I see people trying to crush a Force or a Boss that just don’t have the arm for it. Sure sometimes they’ll get a hold of one and crush it, but usually they just throw it in the shule or miss the ideal landing area. I value controlled power for course management. Course management is crucial for playing difficult courses.

Understanding this about how I throw may help you figure out if this disc is for you. If you think 360' is weak I encourage you to go to a football field and try to throw goalpost to goalpost. For some reason 360' on a football field is about 420' on most disc golf course tee signs. I digress.

Enough about me, now onto the Nuke. This disc is for real! It has added a good 60+ feet to my normal controlled power throw. I was using a Flash or Wraith for my right-handed back-hand (RHBH) controlled power shots. The Nuke has a similar flight path but due to its high speed it just goes a lot further with the same amount of effort. In my opinion, the key is not only the high rate of speed the disc possesses, but the tremendous glide it also has. For me the Force and Boss are great RHBH hyzer discs, but they don’t have enough glide and simply dive into the ground before all the useful distance has been achieved. Of course I have a Force that’s been seasoned for 9 months and it is less stable and gets more glide. But I don’t want to have to season a disc for 9 months to get a good controlled power disc. The Nuke is great right from the start. I’m sure it might get too flippy once fully seasoned but that’s OK. Then I have a fun trick long range anhyzer disc to use and will just get a new Nuke. I’d rather have a disc that works out of the box so I know I can easily replace it.


I’ve found that it is amazing for RHBH with a tailwind. It just CRUSHES without having to try hard. Again, I am talking a lot of distance with control. It is also great for RHBH shots with no wind. The key is to not try and throw it too hard but with your normal controlled distance. If you try and overthrow it, like you would a Force to try and get max distance, it will turn over too much and not be good.


The Nuke isn’t for all shots. The disc has preformed poorly into a head wind and is too flippy in these instances. Also, I’ve found it too flippy for my right-handed fore-hand (RHFH) throws. I am sticking with the Force for this shot.

The bottom line is that you should go out and get a Nuke and start throwing it today! It doesn’t take much practice to get the feel of how to throw it and the results will speak for themselves. Seriously, in some recent minis I’ve been getting ohhhhhhhhs and ahhhhhhhs on some of my drives and I never get ohhhhhhs and ahhhhhs unless I’m bombing thumbers .

[dionarlyn]

Originally Posted by JerryChesterson

I’ve found that it is amazing for RHBH with a tailwind. It just CRUSHES without having to try hard. Again, I am talking a lot of distance with control. It is also great for RHBH shots with no wind. The key is to not try and throw it too hard but with your normal controlled distance. If you try and overthrow it, like you would a Force to try and get max distance, it will turn over too much and not be good.


The Nuke isn’t for all shots. The disc has preformed poorly into a head wind and is too flippy in these instances. Also, I’ve found it too flippy for my right-handed fore-hand (RHFH) throws. I am sticking with the Force for this shot.

I would have to agree. My longest throw with this disc was with a strong tailwind and some decent elevation advantage, and it landed about 100' farther then my Force. It was in the air for a loooong time. If you don't have that great of power, this disc is the answer. If you can already bomb, this disc becomes more of a situational disc (lots of room to play with, and a tailwind for optimal results). Fun disc to throw, by far the fastest disc in the Discraft line up.