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Old Jan 18 2009, 01:23 AM   #1471
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I'm excited about the Elite Z Comets -- Do they fly just like the previous runs of Z Comets?
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Old Jan 18 2009, 04:09 PM   #1472
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For me, the Z Forces are MUCH more overstable than the ESPs. Haven't tried the other molds in their new blends yet.

Just in case anyone is wondering....(Hawk)....The DGA Shockwave is produced from Discraft's Torque mold.
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Old Jan 18 2009, 04:15 PM   #1473
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My_Hero what are the odds of Discraft ever coming out with the Spectra in lets say esp, esp flx or Z without the full color stamp? These discs flat out fly but the full color stamp makes the tops slick. Hard to get a good grip. Especially in cold weather.
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Old Jan 18 2009, 06:50 PM   #1474
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Anyone tried out any of the new discs? I'm particularly interested in testing out the Z Force and Z Avenger SS.
Got mine from Sun King yesterday. My 174 Force is nice a stable but not crazy over stable. Flips up just a bit and bombs. Throws like my first run Lime green 174. Also got a Avenger SS for rolling and turn overs. Really flippy imo. Hard for me to throw it with out it digging in and rolling off to the right (rhbh). But seems a bit more stable then the domey esp one i had before. Both mine are neon yellow, and really hard Z.
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Old Jan 20 2009, 10:46 AM   #1475
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My_Hero what are the odds of Discraft ever coming out with the Spectra in lets say esp, esp flx or Z without the full color stamp? These discs flat out fly but the full color stamp makes the tops slick.
Hmmmm, good question Rick. I'll contact HQ's and find out.
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Old Jan 21 2009, 01:14 PM   #1476
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I'm happy to report that all the new Discraft Z discs are made of SWEET plastic. Quite stiff (nothing like earlier Z forces) yet still grippy. The colors looked spectacular as well and the new stamp is nice (it helps years later when your looking for a particular run). I'm hoping D's romance with FLXy plastic has taken a back seat to the rigid Z we have all come to know and love over the years...
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Old Jan 21 2009, 02:03 PM   #1477
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I'm happy to report that all the new Discraft Z discs are made of SWEET plastic. Quite stiff (nothing like earlier Z forces) yet still grippy. The colors looked spectacular as well and the new stamp is nice (it helps years later when your looking for a particular run). I'm hoping D's romance with FLXy plastic has taken a back seat to the rigid Z we have all come to know and love over the years...
I'd agree. I just new Z Forces, Avengers, & Surges and they all look and feel sweet. Only probably is I didn't get red ones I got blue ones
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Old Jan 21 2009, 03:47 PM   #1478
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I spy with my little eye something that starts with Z and ends in DRONE!!!!!
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Old Jan 21 2009, 04:57 PM   #1479
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My_Hero,

I was wondering if Discraft has any plans to add a "wider" rimmed driver to their line-up? (a la Boss)
Don't get me wrong I love Discraft and their line up, but it seems like it would be in their, and their consumers, best intrest to have something "comparable" to the Rim Thickness/Speed of these wider rimmed drivers. (Given that the RT of the Boss is 2.5 cm while the Force is only 2.3 cm)
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Old Jan 21 2009, 04:59 PM   #1480
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Old Jan 21 2009, 05:19 PM   #1481
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Old Jan 21 2009, 06:02 PM   #1482
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Old Jan 21 2009, 06:55 PM   #1483
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Huh, wow. I always thought it was impossible to run them for weight reasons or something along those lines.
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Old Jan 21 2009, 06:57 PM   #1484
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Hey kids, the rumor is true. We're hoping that the Discraft Elite Z Drones ship by the end of the week...by the way it's Sun King, not Sunking...lol
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Old Jan 21 2009, 07:39 PM   #1485
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are the esp zones very overstable? compared to what? thanks.
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Old Jan 21 2009, 08:06 PM   #1486
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I was wondering if Discraft has any plans to add a "wider" rimmed driver to their line-up? (a la Boss)
Don't get me wrong I love Discraft and their line up, but it seems like it would be in their, and their consumers, best intrest to have something "comparable" to the Rim Thickness/Speed of these wider rimmed drivers. (Given that the RT of the Boss is 2.5 cm while the Force is only 2.3 cm)

The new tech limit is 2.6 so maybe they want to make more discs before jumping up so close to the limit. Also because of the weight they may have to find ways to keep the discs under 175. Inoova is taking chunks out of their discs to do this and maybe Discraft has other ideas.
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Old Jan 21 2009, 08:07 PM   #1487
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Huh, wow. I always thought it was impossible to run them for weight reasons or something along those lines.
They can add things to the plastic to make it lighter per a given volume.
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Old Jan 21 2009, 09:16 PM   #1488
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Matt, welcome back my_little_partner_in_crime!

Mace, i thought you were my good friend Mace(#7477 pdga financial supporter, pdga promoter, and pdga td ) just messing with me. Matt pretty much nailed the answer though.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 09:26 AM   #1489
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I was wondering if Discraft has any plans to add a "wider" rimmed driver to their line-up?
The ESP Venom is pretty close to the same rim width.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 01:41 PM   #1490
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Has anyone compared the new Z Force with the sparkle Z one?
Also, just wanted to say that I think Discraft has enough mids now, so...
Maybe this year's Ace Race disc could be a putter? There definitely aren't enough Discraft putters to choose from for someone that likes throwing putters up to 250. Perhaps something a little less stable than a Challenger? You could save yourself mold manufacturing costs and just run a ESP APX!
Discraft does DEFINITELY need a less stable high-speed driver, and the Spectra is just weird.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 02:05 PM   #1491
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xl, ss AVENGER,XS, AND THE TRACKER. Sorry for the caps not yelling Have you tryed any of these I like the esp XL it goes a long ways with little effort!
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Old Jan 22 2009, 02:20 PM   #1492
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Allow me to clarify; high-speed=wide-rimmed. I'm thinking more along the lines of a Force SS.
I currently throw a Z-XS, Z-Wildcat and a Z-Avenger. Those are in my "up to 350" range. I want something in my "up to 425" range that isn't made by the other guys.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 03:43 PM   #1493
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What about the more stable SS Avengers? I have a few they fly really far but dont dump like a typical SS Avenger! I guess finding these might be a bit of a problem! Maybe a Z SS Avenger
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Old Jan 22 2009, 03:44 PM   #1494
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What about the Force in lighter colors that people claim are less stable I have not thrown but variations in the mold may be what you are looking for!
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The Surge's rim is not that far off from the Force....and it will go 425+.....and it's made by the "right guys"
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Old Jan 22 2009, 04:01 PM   #1496
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Just ordered 4 of them. SEND THEM NOW!!!!!!
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Old Jan 22 2009, 05:08 PM   #1497
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Tafe, What's up my fellow Veterans Day B-day boy? Have you tried the Surge SS? Pretty wide rimmed, and much less stable than the regular Surge, especially at high speed.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 08:36 PM   #1498
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last years ace race disc is a good putter and very good for approach shots. i have made more long putts with it.
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Old Jan 22 2009, 08:38 PM   #1499
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the flx surge ss is pretty good, i like to use it for short thumbers.
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what was last years ace race disc? zone?
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