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ChrisEads · Jan 05 2009, 01:59 PM

I was just wondering if they ever made any Elite Z flick's in the 150 class I know they have esp but I was hoping for an Elite Z one.

RhynoBoy · Jan 05 2009, 02:06 PM

Yeah, I know I have one lying around somewhere.

28880 · Jan 05 2009, 02:07 PM

thinking of trying out a z pred to replace my champ firechicken. how are these similar / disimilar?

bruce_brakel · Jan 05 2009, 02:22 PM

Mark Ellis used to be a Firebird thrower. You could ask him. http://www.discgolfersr.us/profile/markellis

rollinghedge · Jan 05 2009, 02:33 PM

Preds are less overstable but can still handle most wind (never gets bad in TN). Firebirds are better for overhands but Preds are longer. Preds skip more. The Pred seems to respond to less than 100% power throws better.

mikeP · Jan 05 2009, 02:42 PM

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Preds are less overstable but can still handle most wind (never gets bad in TN). Firebirds are better for overhands but Preds are longer. Preds skip more. The Pred seems to respond to less than 100% power throws better.

Very well stated. For a 330-350' hyzer I would be throwing the Firebird flat just about as hard as I could. The Predator I would be throwing with 10 degrees of hyzer @ about 85-90%. That is the best way I can communicate the difference.

atreau3 · Jan 05 2009, 02:46 PM

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thinking of trying out a z pred to replace my champ firechicken. how are these similar / disimilar?

I switched to a pred from a firebird about 4 years ago...

Preds are faster... they get to where they need to go quicker. I got more D on the same line as a result. A beat pred works well as a thumber, but the firebird overall was a better out of the box thumber. The Z Pred is near indestructable. A beat Z is simalar to an overstable Teebird IMO.

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my_hero · Jan 05 2009, 03:40 PM

Found the box Chris. Now if i could just find the box of SS Avengers i've been looking for.....

Luke Butch · Jan 05 2009, 03:49 PM

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I was just wondering if they ever made any Elite Z flick's in the 150 class I know they have esp but I was hoping for an Elite Z one.

the original 150 class flicks were given out at AM Nationals I believe? these were in the Z plastic. Not sure if they are regularly produced anymore, but I do know they are out there.

Chris Hysell · Jan 05 2009, 05:06 PM

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I was just wondering if they ever made any Elite Z flick's in the 150 class I know they have esp but I was hoping for an Elite Z one.

What color are you looking for?

Chris Hysell · Jan 05 2009, 05:10 PM

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I was just wondering if they ever made any Elite Z flick's in the 150 class I know they have esp but I was hoping for an Elite Z one.

the original 150 class flicks were given out at AM Nationals I believe? these were in the Z plastic. Not sure if they are regularly produced anymore, but I do know they are out there.

Yes they were. I think the 1st runs were orange and yellow. I skipped aced the same hole on three different days with an orange one. They were better.

Chris Hysell · Jan 05 2009, 05:12 PM

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ok thank you I owe Mark Mccrimmon 2 meteors for some 1.3 ap I got,

Mark McCrimmon? Does he have a brother named Miles?

Why didn't you ask me for Meteors?

pdiddy71 · Jan 07 2009, 10:29 PM

i traded with a friend a couple of days ago for last years 08 ace race disc. around the middle, the plastic flaked off. just seemed odd, no problems with the plastic on my other 08 ace race discs. we both got them at the same event.

JHBlader86 · Jan 08 2009, 02:56 AM

Got one the new Ace Race discs (Nebula isnt it?) in the mail today. For those of you who have thrown it what can I expect out of it? Looks like a mix between a Drone and a Buzzz so I'm expecting straight and stable. Wont get to throw it for a few days because of the rain, but do you all recommend the disc or is it just a failure??

my_hero · Jan 08 2009, 08:14 PM

I found the Nebula to be in between a Wasp and a Buzzz. It's fairly stable(straight) with a harder Left turn than the Buzzz at slow speeds. Let me know what you think.

pdiddy71 · Jan 09 2009, 01:18 AM

i think it is closer to a wasp. i like it for the low speed flight it has. it is a fairly good approach disc also. i have also made some long range putts with it also.

28880 · Jan 09 2009, 09:20 AM

wow! this thing is way more overstable than i thought it would be! it is esp. what is it gonna beat into?

kUrTp · Jan 09 2009, 09:21 AM

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wow! this thing is way more overstable than i thought it would be! it is esp. what is it gonna beat into?

A beat up ESP Force!

zbiberst · Jan 10 2009, 04:56 PM

new for 2009

wow, z-force z-avenger ss z-surge ss, z-comet, esp zone, all to the regular lineup i heard z-drone for worlds and the possibility of a z-zone.

nice! any more that we know of?

Roosta · Jan 10 2009, 06:35 PM

source?

my_hero · Jan 10 2009, 07:15 PM

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z-force, z-avenger ss, z-surge ss, z-comet, esp zone, all to the regular lineup

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source?

Team members were recently notified that the above molds are NOW available.

zbiberst · Jan 10 2009, 07:32 PM

im not a team member, but ive seen some of these, let alone if you check out sunking's front page or even the discraft page, some of the stock images are there already with the new 'elite-z' stamp on them like the comet.

Roosta · Jan 10 2009, 08:01 PM

yeah i knew all this was coming i just wanted to see the publication, i was the stock stamped z force months ago.

zbiberst · Jan 10 2009, 08:17 PM

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yeah i knew all this was coming i just wanted to see the publication, i was the stock stamped z force months ago.

you were, were you?

i dont think the newsletter is out yet, but they have released images because sunking has some preorder pages set up.

Roosta · Jan 12 2009, 08:33 AM

i live in discrafts back yard suff doesn't stay very secret when sponsored played are testing the discs...

RhynoBoy · Jan 12 2009, 10:52 AM

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i was the stock stamped z force months ago.

I think he was talking about the fact that you claim to have been a z force for months!

Roosta · Jan 12 2009, 11:06 AM

yes i was a disc at one point......but then converted back to my human form to criticize the pDGA.

sun_king · Jan 12 2009, 02:43 PM

Hey kids...as you already know, here are the new pre-orders:

~Discraft Elite Z Avenger SS - $10.99 Pre-Order!
~Discraft Elite Z Force - $10.99 Pre-Order!
~Discraft Elite Z Surge SS - $10.99 Pre-Order!
~Discraft Pro D Zone - $5.99 Pre-Order!

We already have the Elite Z Comets in, but have more max weights coming...

MikeG · Jan 17 2009, 12:15 AM

Anyone tried out any of the new discs? I'm particularly interested in testing out the Z Force and Z Avenger SS.

zbiberst · Jan 17 2009, 08:06 PM

the ones that i have are more stable than their esp counterparts. the z plastic on the force is a more grippy gummy z.

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Jan 05 2009, 01:59 PM	#1441
ChrisEads PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 464	Elite z flick I was just wondering if they ever made any Elite Z flick's in the 150 class I know they have esp but I was hoping for an Elite Z one. __________________ WAFDA Tag #1 Pleasant View Tag #2 DAD TAG #2(Sugga Daddy)

Jan 05 2009, 02:06 PM	#1442
RhynoBoy PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The Sunflower State Posts: 519	Re: Elite z flick Yeah, I know I have one lying around somewhere.

Jan 05 2009, 02:07 PM	#1443
28880 Membership Expired Join Date: May 2006 Location: f-zboaz, im at weatherford Posts: 156	Re: ESP or D zones thinking of trying out a z pred to replace my champ firechicken. how are these similar / disimilar? __________________ the only golfer with two baskets in my yard who has no ability to make a 12' putt

Jan 05 2009, 02:22 PM	#1444
bruce_brakel PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dying More Discs Posts: 5,571	Re: ESP or D zones Mark Ellis used to be a Firebird thrower. You could ask him. http://www.discgolfersr.us/profile/markellis __________________ Circuit court staff attorney - 25 years. My judge must retire. Looking for employment.

Jan 05 2009, 02:33 PM	#1445
rollinghedge Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: t(-_-t) Posts: 721	Re: ESP or D zones Preds are less overstable but can still handle most wind (never gets bad in TN). Firebirds are better for overhands but Preds are longer. Preds skip more. The Pred seems to respond to less than 100% power throws better. __________________ You can milk just about anything with nipples. mogwai

Jan 05 2009, 03:40 PM	#1448
my_hero PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: What's a Loc:? Posts: 7,891	Re: ESP Meteor Found the box Chris. Now if i could just find the box of SS Avengers i've been looking for..... __________________ Discraft is Swirlicious! Par72DiscGolf.com A promise is a cloud; fulfillment is rain. No longer 1000 rated

Jan 07 2009, 10:29 PM	#1453
pdiddy71 Community Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lynchburg,va Posts: 178	Re: ESP or D zones i traded with a friend a couple of days ago for last years 08 ace race disc. around the middle, the plastic flaked off. just seemed odd, no problems with the plastic on my other 08 ace race discs. we both got them at the same event.

Jan 08 2009, 02:56 AM	#1454
JHBlader86 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY USA Posts: 1,405	Re: Ace Race disc Got one the new Ace Race discs (Nebula isnt it?) in the mail today. For those of you who have thrown it what can I expect out of it? Looks like a mix between a Drone and a Buzzz so I'm expecting straight and stable. Wont get to throw it for a few days because of the rain, but do you all recommend the disc or is it just a failure??

Jan 08 2009, 08:14 PM	#1455
my_hero PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: What's a Loc:? Posts: 7,891	Re: Ace Race disc I found the Nebula to be in between a Wasp and a Buzzz. It's fairly stable(straight) with a harder Left turn than the Buzzz at slow speeds. Let me know what you think. __________________ Discraft is Swirlicious! Par72DiscGolf.com A promise is a cloud; fulfillment is rain. No longer 1000 rated

Jan 09 2009, 01:18 AM	#1456
pdiddy71 Community Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lynchburg,va Posts: 178	Re: Ace Race disc i think it is closer to a wasp. i like it for the low speed flight it has. it is a fairly good approach disc also. i have also made some long range putts with it also.

Jan 09 2009, 09:20 AM	#1457
28880 Membership Expired Join Date: May 2006 Location: f-zboaz, im at weatherford Posts: 156	force wow! this thing is way more overstable than i thought it would be! it is esp. what is it gonna beat into? __________________ the only golfer with two baskets in my yard who has no ability to make a 12' putt

Jan 10 2009, 04:56 PM	#1459
zbiberst PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 371	Re: force new for 2009 wow, z-force z-avenger ss z-surge ss, z-comet, esp zone, all to the regular lineup i heard z-drone for worlds and the possibility of a z-zone. nice! any more that we know of?

Jan 10 2009, 06:35 PM	#1460
Roosta Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Smoking you at disc Posts: 377	Re: force source?

Jan 10 2009, 07:32 PM	#1462
zbiberst PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 371	Re:Dcraft new \'09 im not a team member, but ive seen some of these, let alone if you check out sunking's front page or even the discraft page, some of the stock images are there already with the new 'elite-z' stamp on them like the comet.

Jan 10 2009, 08:01 PM	#1463
Roosta Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Smoking you at disc Posts: 377	Re:Dcraft new \'09 yeah i knew all this was coming i just wanted to see the publication, i was the stock stamped z force months ago.

Jan 12 2009, 08:33 AM	#1465
Roosta Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Smoking you at disc Posts: 377	Re:Dcraft new \'09 i live in discrafts back yard suff doesn't stay very secret when sponsored played are testing the discs...

Jan 12 2009, 11:06 AM	#1467
Roosta Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Smoking you at disc Posts: 377	Re:Dcraft new \'09 yes i was a disc at one point......but then converted back to my human form to criticize the pDGA.

Jan 12 2009, 02:43 PM	#1468
sun_king Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sunny, FL Posts: 425	Re:Dcraft new \'09 Hey kids...as you already know, here are the new pre-orders: ~Discraft Elite Z Avenger SS - $10.99 Pre-Order! ~Discraft Elite Z Force - $10.99 Pre-Order! ~Discraft Elite Z Surge SS - $10.99 Pre-Order! ~Discraft Pro D Zone - $5.99 Pre-Order! We already have the Elite Z Comets in, but have more max weights coming...

Jan 17 2009, 12:15 AM	#1469
MikeG Community Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin, Tx USA Posts: 87	Re:Dcraft new \'09 Anyone tried out any of the new discs? I'm particularly interested in testing out the Z Force and Z Avenger SS.

Jan 17 2009, 08:06 PM	#1470
zbiberst PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 371	Re:Dcraft new \'09 the ones that i have are more stable than their esp counterparts. the z plastic on the force is a more grippy gummy z.

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