Ask Hero about Discraft ( or anything else)

[Pogis]

LOL@short_bus_comment

Didnt you drive a short bus?!

[my_hero]

I felt like i was on one last night.

[gotcha]

[dgdave]

ESP Predator or Z Flick?

Pros and cons of each?

Also how do they compare as thumbers?

[cbdiscpimp]

ESP Predator or Z Flick?

Pros and cons of each?

Also how do they compare as thumbers?

ESP Pred..........No cons.........Super Grippy Super Fast SUPER STABLE........Rim is a little deep for me on overhand shots so thats when I go to the Flick

Z Flick........Great for Side amr Flick Rollers and all overhand shots you would ever want to throw!!!

[discchucker]

Any chance we will ever see an ESP Wildcat? I threw a friends Z-Wildcat today and absolutely crushed one. Now...if it were only available in a grippier plastic like ESP.

I had a chance to throw a FLX Surge SS today as well. I will give it a few more throws, but at this point in time, I am not impressed. Hopefully further testing will change my mind.

[Dana]

Z-Pred Q:

How do the opaque, flatter Z-Preds fly compared to the domier, clear Z-Preds?

[crgadyk]

I just got one of the flatter opaque Z-Preds in the mail a couple weeks ago. It seems to be more overstable than my old translucent one was. I have thrown my old orange Z-Pred for about 4 years now and it is finally seasoned enough to be my go to driver for just about any shot. Its a straight flyer but still stable enough to know that it will come back.

I bought a new one just to get started on beating it in since it takes so long to get them perfect. This new one is harshly overstable which is good since now I have 1 mold that does everything that I need it to do.

[Roosta]

So Hero what do you know about the G-Force and ESP Venom? I've heard that that G-Force is the pulse top on the Force and the ESP venom will not be made becuase its rediciluosly overstable for everyone but Bratten....

[my_hero]

I will get the scoop for you Andy. Sometimes you guys in Circle D land hear and see things much sooner than those of us in Northern Mexico.

[Presser]

How does the new run of flatter, opaque Z Predators compare to the stiffer, more transparent Z Preds? Do they have less glide? Are they going to make the stiffer ones with the dome still?

[anarak82]

At Texas States they gave us a Proto putter from Discraft called the Zone. At first I thought they might be the Zoom that Dynamic Discs has been talking about, but it's definatly a putter. Anyone else heard of this disc the Zone??

Is Discraft gonna go on a "Z" naming campaign if they are releasing the Zone and Zoom? that would be cheesy (not that most disc names aren't pure cheese anyway)

[KevinMPeterson]

I know that I am on the next page, but I really liked the question, so here is my answer. All Innova drivers, minus one Flick, which is truly indispensable. ALL Discraft Mids, not even close here, nothing Innova could line up would beat my Drone, Wasp, and 3 Buzzzes. Upshots, one Soft Banger GT, one Omega SS (practically Innova). Putters, gotta go with the Pro Rhynos. These are my personal choices, and I respect greatly each companies knowledge in these areas. However, I was not impressed by the Force, nor the Cro. Still, I tried them, and will continue to. In fact, just for kicks, I am going to put together a bag of each. One Team D bag (I do miss throwing a Crush, and Surge) and One Team I, for those poor neglected Rocs. KP

[mikeP]

How does the new run of flatter, opaque Z Predators compare to the stiffer, more transparent Z Preds? Do they have less glide? Are they going to make the stiffer ones with the dome still?

I'm afraid to throw them b/c I like the domey stiffies. ESP is grippy and soft...Discraft should keep Z stiff and durable or else there will be no difference b/w ESP and Z except for the look (Opaque Z almost looks the same as well). Maybe time to stockpile...

[crgadyk]

Yeah I have one of the new ones and I definitely like the transparent old ones WAY better.

[Pogis]

I'm afraid to throw them b/c I like the domey stiffies. ESP is grippy and soft...Discraft should keep Z stiff and durable or else there will be no difference b/w ESP and Z except for the look (Opaque Z almost looks the same as well). Maybe time to stockpile...

As far as the opaque Z's being the same as esps, its not really the case. The Z's like this are WAY more stable then the TRUE esps. They are more like the FLX preds. And yes. The domie clear Z preds have more glide and are a little more stable then the true esps. And I hope they will make the stiffer domie Z's again.

[dgdave]

any good leads on some cam todd challengers?

any word on an ESP venom?

[zbiberst]

any good leads on some cam todd challengers?

rusco?

[the_kid]

any good leads on some cam todd challengers?

any word on an ESP venom?

ESP Venomes are so sweet! Not as beefy as I had expected.

[perica]

i just found out that now there are 150 esp flicks. anyone thrown one yet? i love orange z 150 flicks, yellow ones seem to be a lot flippier.

[kmh]

Anybody know why the bee/wasp mascot on the ESP Buzzz has two different positions? I've seen it face left and right...

[zbiberst]

insects have the ability to look around.

[dgdave]

any word if the ESP venom gets ran jf it will be a regular production or limited edition?

[serg]

i just found out that now there are 150 esp flicks. anyone thrown one yet? i love orange z 150 flicks, yellow ones seem to be a lot flippier.

I heard a rumor that the Z 150 Flick is being discontinued...this true? Are all Z Flicks being discontinued?

Thanks.

[crgadyk]

i just found out that now there are 150 esp flicks. anyone thrown one yet? i love orange z 150 flicks, yellow ones seem to be a lot flippier.

I have one that I got at BG. That thing is fast as sh$t and will fly forever in a tail wind. It is pretty flippy for me but if you give it enough air it will come back fast at the end like a flick should.

[dgdave]

is the banger a challenger with a new top or a completely unique mold?

also, would anyone want to trade an orange cam todd challenger or 2 for a signature cam todd challenger or 2?

[dgdave]

how do pro d challengers and ct challengers differ?

[mikeP]

how do pro d challengers and ct challengers differ?

Cam Todd was an Innova pro who switched to Discraft. He was a World Champ at the time and one of the biggest names in DG. He wanted a putter like a KC pro Aviar...so Discraft did their best and came up with the Challenger, and then did a run in super-stiff D plastic to try and mimic the feel of the old KC Aviars Cam was used to. They have a cult following now.

[discchucker]

They have a cult following now.

Yes they do. And I love my CT Challengers. I'm glad I stocked up on them when I had a chance. I wish they would do a commemorative run of them. How about some Black CT's with a white signature? I know I'd buy a stack of them.

[dgdave]

I just got 4 of the signature ones after looking for some time. im glad I did. I got a pro d to mess around with top. any big differences in the two flight wise or will it just be softer plastic?