USDGC State Representative

junnila · Dec 06 2007, 11:40 AM

Does your state require the USDGC spot go to a member of your state's club or governing body?

johnbiscoe · Dec 06 2007, 12:27 PM

no. that makes no sense.

Jeff_LaG · Dec 06 2007, 02:22 PM

If the USDGC spot in your state is awarded based on the Open division winner of a designated tournament, whether or not that winning golfer is a member of your state's club or governing body should be irrelevant. If a guy wins the Open division at the tournament, he wins the USDGC spot.

junnila · Dec 06 2007, 02:35 PM

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If the USDGC spot in your state is awarded based on the Open division winner of a designated tournament, whether or not that winning golfer is a member of your state's club or governing body should be irrelevant. If a guy wins the Open division at the tournament, he wins the USDGC spot.

Thanks for the replies. In MN we award the spot at our State Championships to the best overall score (any division, must live in MN). We are thinking about a side bet deal this year where you would have to pay 5 bucks extra for a chance at the spot. This money would be used to offset the entry fee for the recipient. Thoughts?

johnbiscoe · Dec 06 2007, 02:39 PM

in virginia i have held a pair of events the same weekend with anyone wishing to qualify paying an extra $10 with the "side bet" cash going towards the entry fee- works well and helps insure that the player winning the spot actually intends to go. i too limit it to state residents.

kUrTp · Dec 07 2007, 07:50 AM

In PA we did a club sponsorship program where each PA club could preregister a certain amount of players for a small donation. The money raised was used to pay the entry fees to the top finishers of Open, Advanced, and Womens divisions to thier respective national tournament. The program was a huge success. Nick Schneider went to the USDGC, John Genter went to USADGC and, Alanna Houck went to the USWDGC. All entry fees were paid for by the club sponsorship program.

stack · Dec 07 2007, 09:54 AM

in NC it goes to the winner of a season long points series... and it doesnt have to be someone from NC

http://www.ncdiscgolf.com/

skaZZirf · Dec 11 2007, 11:35 AM

In CT, every person(state only) who wanted a chance at the spot, had to put in an extra 25$...Worked out great.

chappyfade · Dec 12 2007, 01:10 PM

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If the USDGC spot in your state is awarded based on the Open division winner of a designated tournament, whether or not that winning golfer is a member of your state's club or governing body should be irrelevant. If a guy wins the Open division at the tournament, he wins the USDGC spot.

Actually, it would still be up to the individual SC. The USDGC berth must be associated with a tournament or series (unless that requirement is waived by Harold), but, for example, if Nebraska SC Anita Jackson wishes that Nebraska spot to go to the highest finishing Nebraskan at the Star City Shootout, she can choose to do that. She wouldn't have to pick a person from Iowa if he won the open division in the Shootout, she could pick the best-finishing Nebraska resident, even if he/she finished 7th in the open division. (And Tank, I'm NOT saying you're going to finish 7th in Lincoln this year...just making a fictitious example.)

Chap

Jeff_LaG · Dec 12 2007, 03:03 PM

It was implied that the SC announced beforehand whether the USDGC spot goes to the Open division winner (from any state) or the highest finisher from the state.

That's not even the topic being discussed here. The reason the thread was started was to ask whether the person awarded the USDGC spot need be a member of your state's club or governing body. My answer was that club or governing body affiliation should be irrelevant.

magilla · Dec 13 2007, 10:17 AM

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It was implied that the SC announced beforehand whether the USDGC spot goes to the Open division winner (from any state) or the highest finisher from the state.

That's not even the topic being discussed here. The reason the thread was started was to ask whether the person awarded the USDGC spot need be a member of your state's club or governing body. My answer was that club or governing body affiliation should be irrelevant.

I agree completely...BUT the state spot should ONLY be able to go from someone who is from that state.

I would really have issue with a "state spot" going to someone from outside that state.

Jeff_LaG · Dec 13 2007, 11:34 AM

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BUT the state spot should ONLY be able to go from someone who is from that state.

I would really have issue with a "state spot" going to someone from outside that state.

I couldn't agree more, and wouldn't have it any other way in Pennsylvania, but that's a decision that each individual state coordinator is free to make.

johnbiscoe · Dec 13 2007, 12:23 PM

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BUT the state spot should ONLY be able to go from someone who is from that state.

I would really have issue with a "state spot" going to someone from outside that state.

I couldn't agree more, and wouldn't have it any other way in Pennsylvania, but that's a decision that each individual state coordinator is free to make.

ditto.

MTL21676 · Dec 13 2007, 04:09 PM

The state rep from South Carolina has been a north carolinian before.

However, that never made much sense to me.

gnduke · Dec 16 2007, 02:18 AM

I'm curious, which states have State clubs or governing bodies ?

ck34 · Dec 16 2007, 10:25 AM

Consider the initial thread post from a Minnesota Frisbee Association Board member for one. That's considered the oldest statewide disc association. The Wisconsin Tour is not a membership org but pretty much oversees competition in the state. There are listings for the Oregon Disc Golf Association, Alaska Disc Golf Association, Arizona Disc Golf, Nebraska Disc Golf and Maine Disc Golf that appear to oversee their state competition scene.

skaZZirf · Dec 16 2007, 01:41 PM

I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

michaeljo · Dec 16 2007, 01:56 PM

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The state rep from South Carolina has been a north carolinian before.

However, that never made much sense to me.

yea i know i got into my first USDGC with that South Carolina spot

MTL21676 · Dec 16 2007, 05:39 PM

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I'm curious, which states have State clubs or governing bodies ?

we have a board of people that run our state series and make decisions. they work directly with the state cordinantor.

doot · Dec 16 2007, 06:16 PM

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I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

Agreed, and professionals who have previously qualified but failed to register should NOT be able to re-earn their way into the competition via these spots. You snooze you lose.

stack · Dec 16 2007, 07:51 PM

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I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

Agreed, and professionals who have previously qualified but failed to register should NOT be able to re-earn their way into the competition via these spots. You snooze you lose.

agreed and agreed

and i've heard that they will change the latter to not allow people to take spots if they had already qualified and failed to pay or forgot to pay or whatever the reason. As far as I know thats only for the Monday qualifier... dont know if a TD can refuse to give a spot to someone who might've qualified somewhere else and turned it down... i personally think the TD should be allowed to take that spot away but not sure if the USDGC has an official stance on that.

MTL21676 · Dec 16 2007, 08:31 PM

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i personally think the TD should be allowed to take that spot away

I could not disagree more!!

Way too many what ifs with that.

edit : misread post

stack · Dec 16 2007, 08:52 PM

like? look... if you've already qualified you've already qualified... if you didnt pay your entry, or forgot then you didnt register... but you already qualified.

thats the point... all those who have already 'qualified' are supposed to not count towards the spot in tournies. Instead people treat it as all those who have already 'registered'. Theres a pretty big difference.

if you want to have it the other way then dont say that those who have already qualified will be excluded.

MTL21676 · Dec 16 2007, 09:59 PM

nevermind, i misread ur post.

gnduke · Dec 16 2007, 11:00 PM

TDs don't really have a choice in the matter. the second paragraph of the qualifying document for the USDGC covers it pretty well.

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Any player finishing in the top five (5) who has qualified at an earlier event, or who has received an exemption or special invitation, will be excluded. Players shooting the next lowest score will become eligible.

If they close the Monday qualifier loophole, then you get one shot to sign up if you qualify. Miss it, and you're done.

Unless you manage a State Rep spot.
Maybe a sponsors exemption, I'd bet those are pretty expensive now.

ck34 · Dec 16 2007, 11:18 PM

TD a qualifying event instead of play in it.

stack · Dec 16 2007, 11:41 PM

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TDs don't really have a choice in the matter. the second paragraph of the qualifying document for the USDGC covers it pretty well.

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Any player finishing in the top five (5) who has qualified at an earlier event, or who has received an exemption or special invitation, will be excluded. Players shooting the next lowest score will become eligible.

If they close the Monday qualifier loophole, then you get one shot to sign up if you qualify. Miss it, and you're done.

Unless you manage a State Rep spot.
Maybe a sponsors exemption, I'd bet those are pretty expensive now.

awesome... thanks for finding that!

and I hope more people (TDs especially) realize that if someone is qualified it shouldnt be open to interpretation... qualified means qualified... not registered.

i also think it'd be great if they did what one of the frizzies mentioned and opened the Monday spots to however many spots there are left (sometimes 5 maybe... sometimes 8-10?) Not sjur if it was bard who said that

stack · Dec 18 2007, 09:57 AM

FYI... i found out that if you miss your deadline you still will be allowed to try @ the Monday qualifier (and of course the state, national or sponsor spot)

chappyfade · Dec 18 2007, 09:43 PM

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I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

What makes you think that they don't?

junnila · Dec 19 2007, 01:26 AM

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I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

What makes you think that they don't?

They didn't this past year.

Dec 06 2007, 11:40 AM	#1
junnila Community Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnetonka, MN Posts: 622	USDGC State Representative Does your state require the USDGC spot go to a member of your state's club or governing body?

Dec 06 2007, 12:27 PM	#2
johnbiscoe PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Disc Golf Capital of Virginia Posts: 2,709	Re: USDGC State Representative no. that makes no sense.

Dec 06 2007, 02:22 PM	#3
Jeff_LaG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: cheering for the Steelers, Penguins, and Pitt Posts: 3,120	Re: USDGC State Representative If the USDGC spot in your state is awarded based on the Open division winner of a designated tournament, whether or not that winning golfer is a member of your state's club or governing body should be irrelevant. If a guy wins the Open division at the tournament, he wins the USDGC spot. __________________

Dec 06 2007, 02:39 PM	#5
johnbiscoe PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Disc Golf Capital of Virginia Posts: 2,709	Re: USDGC State Representative in virginia i have held a pair of events the same weekend with anyone wishing to qualify paying an extra $10 with the "side bet" cash going towards the entry fee- works well and helps insure that the player winning the spot actually intends to go. i too limit it to state residents.

Dec 07 2007, 07:50 AM	#6
kUrTp PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pennsyltucky aka Yinzerville Posts: 1,289	Re: USDGC State Representative In PA we did a club sponsorship program where each PA club could preregister a certain amount of players for a small donation. The money raised was used to pay the entry fees to the top finishers of Open, Advanced, and Womens divisions to thier respective national tournament. The program was a huge success. Nick Schneider went to the USDGC, John Genter went to USADGC and, Alanna Houck went to the USWDGC. All entry fees were paid for by the club sponsorship program.

Dec 07 2007, 09:54 AM	#7
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: USDGC State Representative in NC it goes to the winner of a season long points series... and it doesnt have to be someone from NC http://www.ncdiscgolf.com/

Dec 11 2007, 11:35 AM	#8
skaZZirf PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Port City Posts: 1,812	Re: USDGC State Representative In CT, every person(state only) who wanted a chance at the spot, had to put in an extra 25$...Worked out great.

Dec 12 2007, 03:03 PM	#10
Jeff_LaG Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: cheering for the Steelers, Penguins, and Pitt Posts: 3,120	Re: USDGC State Representative It was implied that the SC announced beforehand whether the USDGC spot goes to the Open division winner (from any state) or the highest finisher from the state. That's not even the topic being discussed here. The reason the thread was started was to ask whether the person awarded the USDGC spot need be a member of your state's club or governing body. My answer was that club or governing body affiliation should be irrelevant. __________________

Dec 13 2007, 04:09 PM	#14
MTL21676 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 9,690	Re: USDGC State Representative The state rep from South Carolina has been a north carolinian before. However, that never made much sense to me. __________________ Robert Leonard - North Carolina State Coordinator Playing worlds in 2012? Stick around and play the Midtown Chiropractic Raleigh Disc Golf Championship! An A Tier and only a 2 1/2 hour drive from Charlotte!

Dec 16 2007, 02:18 AM	#15
gnduke PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 7,181	Re: USDGC State Representative I'm curious, which states have State clubs or governing bodies ?

Dec 16 2007, 10:25 AM	#16
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: USDGC State Representative Consider the initial thread post from a Minnesota Frisbee Association Board member for one. That's considered the oldest statewide disc association. The Wisconsin Tour is not a membership org but pretty much oversees competition in the state. There are listings for the Oregon Disc Golf Association, Alaska Disc Golf Association, Arizona Disc Golf, Nebraska Disc Golf and Maine Disc Golf that appear to oversee their state competition scene.

Dec 16 2007, 01:41 PM	#17
skaZZirf PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Port City Posts: 1,812	Re: USDGC State Representative I just wish they would give out as many monday Q spots as there are spots open in the event.

Dec 16 2007, 08:52 PM	#23
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: USDGC State Representative like? look... if you've already qualified you've already qualified... if you didnt pay your entry, or forgot then you didnt register... but you already qualified. thats the point... all those who have already 'qualified' are supposed to not count towards the spot in tournies. Instead people treat it as all those who have already 'registered'. Theres a pretty big difference. if you want to have it the other way then dont say that those who have already qualified will be excluded.

Dec 16 2007, 09:59 PM	#24
MTL21676 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 9,690	Re: USDGC State Representative nevermind, i misread ur post. __________________ Robert Leonard - North Carolina State Coordinator Playing worlds in 2012? Stick around and play the Midtown Chiropractic Raleigh Disc Golf Championship! An A Tier and only a 2 1/2 hour drive from Charlotte!

Dec 16 2007, 11:18 PM	#26
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: USDGC State Representative TD a qualifying event instead of play in it.

Dec 18 2007, 09:57 AM	#28
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: USDGC State Representative FYI... i found out that if you miss your deadline you still will be allowed to try @ the Monday qualifier (and of course the state, national or sponsor spot)

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