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Dave, any plans for pro monster?

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Dave, do you know about how many Champ. Stingrays were made before you discontinued them?

good idea, that old thread is way too slow for 1000+ rated speed-posters

dave, any new models in the works?? how about a DX roc in the SB mold?? just an idea

[davei]

bandsagger, no immediate plans, but we have been looking into it.

[davei]

robj, we may have made as many as 15,000, but half of them could have been X-parts. That is why we discontinued it.

[davei]

Paul, the SB mold is the Ontario mold. We are considering it along with a new mid range disign, that we hope will turn a bit.

Dave, I'm probably in the minority, but I'd like to see an Aviar-like midrange disc that is longer than a Classic Roc

[davei]

Which feature or features of the Aviar, are you referring to?

Dave D. -- PLEASE bring back the Proline Gremlin. Either that or allow Ching to re-release the sniper in their CE blend.

Even if it is a CFR, please do something to cover the demand for this disc. E-bay is getting out of hand.

Dave D. -- PLEASE bring back the Proline Gremlin. Either that or allow Ching to re-release the sniper in their CE blend.

Even if it is a CFR, please do something to cover the demand for this disc. E-bay is getting out of hand.

[davei]

ajprice, we probably will run a limited edition candy Gremlin later this season.

sweet!

Which feature or features of the Aviar, are you referring to?

I like the way my JK and Champion Aviar's resist high speed turn and don't have too much low speed fade. I also like that they don't mind being thrown nose up. I can throw them 285 to 300 feet and would like something similar for the 300-330 ft range where a driver may be too much disc and an Aviar not quite enough. Maybe an Aviar with a lot of glide would do the trick

I carry Champ. Stingrays for wide turnover shots and I also carry the Pro Classic Roc and have been experimenting with Champ Panthers. The Pro Classic Rocs don't seem a whole lot longer than Aviars, and the fade is more pronounced. The Champ Panthers I recently added to the bag seem to want to flip, but maybe I need to learn them better. How about a big bead Stingray with a slightly deeper rim? (like i have a clue about disc design).

I need to see how I like Sharks -- but the Aviar is such a straight controllable disc that a longer Aviar would be my dream midrange disc.

[DiscGolfTool]

I like the way my JK and Champion Aviar's resist high speed turn and don't have too much low speed fade. I also like that they don't mind being thrown nose up. I can throw them 285 to 300 feet and would like something similar for the 300-330 ft range where a driver may be too much disc and an Aviar not quite enough. Maybe an Aviar with a lot of glide would do the trick

I carry Champ. Stingrays for wide turnover shots and I also carry the Pro Classic Roc and have been experimenting with Champ Panthers. The Pro Classic Rocs don't seem a whole lot longer than Aviars, and the fade is more pronounced. The Champ Panthers I recently added to the bag seem to want to flip, but maybe I need to learn them better. How about a big bead Stingray with a slightly deeper rim? (like i have a clue about disc design).

I need to see how I like Sharks -- but the Aviar is such a straight controllable disc that a longer Aviar would be my dream midrange disc.

Have you tried the Spider?
That would probalby be close to what you are after.
But I agree the Big Bead Avair is an awesome disc....
Cheers,
Matt

[mikeP]

You want a longer Aviar? The newer QMS discs are pretty close. They glide straight and forever. Personally I like the Qmega, which I find to be a longer Aviar. The mold has a little sharper nose and little less bead and has a flatter profile in general. I can throw mine a good 30-40' further than a champ. Aviar, mostly because the Qmega is a bit faster and glides longer and straighter. I don't have any problems flipping my Qmega either.

[20460chase]

I agree with Discspeed, a transition to the QMS is very easy for Aviar/ Wizard throwers. I personally like the opaque early run QMS' , which are more like throwing a beat up DX Aviar. The newer - clearer runs of the QMS are a little more beefy. More like throwing premium plastic putters.

Thanks for the feedback. I want to try the QMS and maybe the Spider too. I play a very wooded long course mainly (Idlewild) so Champion plastic is what I am looking for. Sounds like the QMS might fit the bill...

[Plankeye]

I have an ice clear 180 QMS i will let go for $14(free shipping).

Dave,
I have a problem/question about Innova. For the most part I love my Innova discs, never had a problem with them. I purchased a CFR TL last week online and it arrived by mail Monday. I had plans of keeping this in the bag and storing it as a collectable. When I inspected the disc, it has 4 large bubbles (touch bigger than the size of a BB) in the outer ring/wing of the disc. Now I'm a bit upset, this will definately degrade the quality of it as a collectable. Not even sure if I can use this to throw, if something punctures these bubbles doesn't that make the disc PDGA illegal? I tried contacting the party I purchased it from in order to exchange or refund it and they appear to be avoiding me.

I also purchased 2 SB and 2 regular 2005 USDGC Roc's this year. Out of those, 1 SB had noticable black marks in the center of the top and 1 of the regulars had several (over 6) black flakes in the plastic mix. I was planning on storing these as well but decided to throw the two defects. So, out of 5 discs, 3 have flaws. Please understand, I'm not trying to whine about this but when you spend $125 plus shipping on 5 discs and 3 out of 5 are defective it gets a bit frustrating. How can Innova let something like this out without it becoming an X-Out, especially a $25 Fund Raiser?

[davei]

joe, little bubbles and black flecks in candy plastic happen from time to time and don't hurt the flight of the disc, however, they are usually marked as X-outs. I don't know why they weren't in your case. This sort of thing does happen from time to time unfortunately. Any time you are not satisfied with your purchase you can return it for a refund or exchange.

[20460chase]

Thanks for the feedback. I want to try the QMS and maybe the Spider too. I play a very wooded long course mainly (Idlewild) so Champion plastic is what I am looking for. Sounds like the QMS might fit the bill...

I been throwing alot of Spiders lately, since my Gremlins are getting beat. I think the first run Pro Lines and the original Star Stamps are the best. Really nice for putting from the rough, or from a uneven lie. They are very predictable.

[mf100forever]

Hi Dave,
the prototype "Zephyr" without Thumtrac, was there ever a regular run?? Do you know how many of them where produced?

[davei]

mf100, yes there was one run of trackless Zephyrs. I am not sure how many we made, but it wasn't a big number. Possibly as few as 1000 - 2000. The only colors I can recall are white, and maybe yellow.

Dave, This is a non-disc related question, but I heard that Innova was coming out with a new computer game. Any truth to this?

mf100, yes there was one run of trackless Zephyrs. I am not sure how many we made, but it wasn't a big number. Possibly as few as 1000 - 2000. The only colors I can recall are white, and maybe yellow.

I have a gray one with the Innova bar stamp. I would love to find another! mf100, you have any you would trade or sell?