Ask Chuck Kennedy

[zbiberst]

ah, i didnt understand that. thanks, that makes alot more sense.

[OSTERTIP]

Yes, Chuck that is our course, thank you!

[OSTERTIP]

Chuck, in regards to the SSA at District II Regional Park (Ed Austin Park) Fore Palms disc golf course that you sent me the link to-the way I understand it, this is a 1000 rated score, is that right? Using the Red Tee SSA from last years tournament, a 61 from the A pin placement and a 62 from the B pin placement would be 1000 rated rounds. How do we figure all other round ratings from, lets say, 950 to 1050? How would you think we could establish SSA’s for the 18 hole courses?
Thanks.

[papparoc]

Chuck, is there world rankings for Jrs and if yes where do I locate them

[cgkdisc]

Chuck, is there world rankings for Jrs and if yes where do I locate them

No World Rankings for any players other than those who enter Open Men with ratings over 1000 or Open Women with ratings over 900.

A far as Junior rankings by ratings, that sorting function hasn't gotten to the top of the priority list yet for the PDGA tech team to implement. However, you can at least sort by points but not ratings for Juniors at the bottom of this page: www.pdga.com/tour_stats

[cgkdisc]

How do we figure all other round ratings from, lets say, 950 to 1050? How would you think we could establish SSA’s for the 18 hole courses?

All you need to do is look up the events where those SSAs were produced in the PDGA Tour calendar. You can tell from the scores and ratings what score produces a 950 or 1050 rating and how many rating points each throw is worth.

[the_kid]

Chuck, is it about time for guesses so we can revive the ratings thread?

[cgkdisc]

It's so cold here that guessing can't thaw out and start until Monday...

[the_kid]

Might as well wait two more days then.........

I don't think mine will be too hard to figure out anyway.

[my_hero]

Chuck, why am i nervous?

[cgkdisc]

Well, there's good news/bad news this update depending on how you played in the 7-8 tardy events with TD reports that haven't been received yet. We're doing a final corrections update a few weeks after the update on schedule to be posted Tuesday. So hopefully we'll get those 7-8 stragglers by then. TDs have had a perfect record getting all reports submitted for the previous 3 years so we they can keep the streak alive.

[Simon_Carr]

I have a question about player ratings and the divisions.. I haven't been a PDGA member for the last 2 years.. My old rating is 900. Can I play Advanced in a tournament, or do I have to go back to playing Intermediate? Thanks..

[cgkdisc]

You can always play up a division or two or three. Your rating only prevents you from playing below your level.

[zbiberst]

chuck, im curious about points in player profiles.

why do some accurately show the points, while some seem to never add up to the right number. i know they dont really mean much, but im confused as to why mine add up to about the right amount, but i see people with half the rounds have more points, and adding them up they dont reach the posted total. the only thing i can see is that worlds may be listed but doesnt list points. is that the difference? could worlds house the 2000 missing points for some player profiles? if so, that just kills the case for points at all, if you play worlds, youll get a points invite for the next year???

[cgkdisc]

Points are awarded for all major events now but I suspect that the online programming hasn't caught up to display them yet although the PDGA database calculates them and provides the proper total. Playing in BG Ams used to provide sufficient points that entring it was all you had to do to get an invite. At least now, actually playing in the major events can provide a large number also. Seems to make sense that those willing to participate in majors like Worlds should earn something to help them get invited the following year.

[zbiberst]

so its calculating majors (am nats and worlds) just not displaying them. i see, makes sense.

[OSTERTIP]

Chuck did the IDGC Ice Bowl make it into the rating calcs for the update tomorrow?

[cgkdisc]

Pssst... the ratings were posted already early this morning.

No 2009 events are in the ratings until the March 17 update.

[OSTERTIP]

Sorry PDGA home page says today and tomorrow, so you can see how I was mistaken.

[the_kid]

Sorry PDGA home page says today and tomorrow, so you can see how I was mistaken.

Yes you were Mistaken! Don't try to pass off attacks on the PDGA for they can do no wrong.

[brock]

hey chuck, didn't find a thread in rules, so i'm asking you.

a player missed a triple mando going wide right, then it took a crazy roll and came back through the mando from the other side and landed Tee-side of mando. they ruled it safe and he proceeded to approach through the mando and carded his 3.

another player missed the mando on the left, it hit a tree and bounced straight back 30 feet, landing on "safe" side of mando. sounds like same scenarios, just wanted some clarification.

i thought once you missed the mando, it doesn't matter what the disc does and you either re-tee or go to a drop zone (if provided). how could they have misinterpreted this?

thanks

[cgkdisc]

Making a mando is flight based meaning the mando is made if at any time during the flight, the disc completely crosses the mando line on the correct side, regardless where the disc lands after that. Missing a mando is based on the final resting place of the disc like most rules. You have only missed a mando if the disc lands on the wrong side of it AND the shot didn't cross the correct side of the mando in the correct direction during the flight. In both of your examples, the disc ended up on the safe side of the mando, so it wasn't missed and it also wasn't made. It's just like a short shot that hasn't reached the mando yet.

[smurphy29]

Chuck, I should know this but can't get it straight. I'm a 40 yr. old 947 rated player. The scenario being that I play in a pdga sanctioned tourney in the open masters and take first place and decide to take prizes instead of cash. Then can I play advanced masters division in a later tournament? I know I can play advanced division but not sure about adv. masters division? Thanks for your help.

[cgkdisc]

Assuming you are an Am member of the PDGA and not a pro yet, you can play in Master Advanced, Master Pro, and Open Pro plus whatever am division matches your rating, in this case, Advanced. If you decided to accept cash and your rating stayed above 934, you would forfeit the ability to play in Advanced Master but not Advanced until your rating gets over 969.

[wsfaplau]

Hi Chuck,

Any idea when the rules Q & A will be back online?
Are they currently available somewhere now?

Thx

[cgkdisc]

No and No. You could possibly get a copy by contacting the PDGA office. Dave and I are in the middle of getting content back online and the Ratings docs are next. I'll ask him if he can get the Q&A back online. However, it's possible the hold up might be resolving whether they are "official" or not with the Rules Committee. But I'll check and post.

[ChrisWoj]

It isn't a ratings Q... But who would I contact for the best and most accurate extensive info on each of the World Championships? I mean a list of champs, runners up, victory margins, locations, etc. through the years.


-Chris.

[cgkdisc]

Probably Board member Rick Rothstein. The Worlds results from 2001 to present are currently online. If you have an oldtimer in your area with a low PDGA number, they might have all of the old magazine issues with the results in them.

[ninafofitre]

Has it ever been in consideration making changes to ratings depending on playing on less than adequate equipment?

Home made baskets, ching baskets, Travelers? Sure they are fine for the casa but at an sanctioned event where ratings could be affected? Has there ever been adjusting for such circumstances and what would they be?

[cgkdisc]

It is taken into account since the SSA is generated based on the scores thrown that round. If the baskets are a little easier like Travelers or a little tougher like maybe Skillshots, it all comes out in the scores that generate the SSA which generates the ratings.