Ask Chuck Kennedy

[cgkdisc]

You can speculate all you want but until the full explanation comes out, this is a poor place to communicate it.

[16670]

chuck you kinda opened pandoras box when you opened the superclass discussion..why would we not speculate..or better yet why would you not be more forthcoming

[cgkdisc]

No disc will be allowed to be any heavier than it is allowed to be now, just to kill any speculation that there will be 200g T-Birds floating around. All of the Super Class discs will be over 24 cm diameter and legal to 200g using the current specs of 8.3g per cm. It's just that most of them have never been made that heavy before.

[16670]

aw so there bringing back the barracuda

[cgkdisc]

It's a three page document describing the initiative and too long to post here plus it includes tables that are hard to read in this D-Board. If I could post it elsewhere on PDGA.com I would. It's no secret. But with the new website coming soon, only the minimum is being posted unless necessary.

[ninafofitre]

chuck you kinda opened pandoras box when you opened the superclass discussion..why would we not speculate..or better yet why would you not be more forthcoming

There is no need to shoot the messenger, but I'm just not understanding why and what's the point? Is there that many people out anxious to be playing with Gophers, Zepher's, and Jaguars


ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo BARACUDA

[ninafofitre]

Now that I have read through the document, this is what I have been hearing through the grapevine about the Vintage Tour.

It probably won't be for me but I could see some appeal from some of the old timers. In my opinion it can bring back events to the original courses that were installed in the early 80's

Super Class sounds like they are better discs, I wish they would call them V-Class for Vintage

[cgkdisc]

If you had trouble with 150 class, I can certainly understand you might not be able to throw SC...

[johnbiscoe]

so... if these will be discs legal for pdga play at current specs what's the change? are all discs below a certain weight excluded? will there only be certain molds allowed for s.c.?
(i agree with kevin, v-class would be better)

[krupicka]

It's a three page document describing the initiative and too long to post here plus it includes tables that are hard to read in this D-Board. If I could post it elsewhere on PDGA.com I would. It's no secret. But with the new website coming soon, only the minimum is being posted unless necessary.

We've been waiting how long for a new website?
Send it me and I'll host the document for now so that we can have a link here.

[ninafofitre]

Chuck, would it be OK to post the info? I can host it if needed also.

Not sure if you want it out there or not.

[cgkdisc]

It's just a PDGA protocol thing. Waiting a few weeks isn't going to impact any of you and it really should be a more official post from the PDGA. Kevin and others have the preliminary proposal docs because they are on the Competition Committee or were part of the group that did the development of the concept. Like I said, it's not secret but better that the full plan be provided in one place at one time.

We already have the rumor stuff going on here. That's fine because there's no need for secrecy on possible PDGA developments in most cases. Look at the frenzy that occurs when Innova has a new disc in the works. There are several other cool things planned for next year also but again these haven't all been flushed out for timing, guidelines or whatever that may be involved.

[johnbiscoe]

...sounds like time to interrogate mccoy...

[cgkdisc]

We're running the first Super Class test event here in Minnesota on Sept 6th. I can plug anyone into our MFA Yahoo group that would like to see the preliminary information now. Just email me and I'll invite you into the largest active DG Yahoo group in the world at 500 members now.
ck34 at aol.com

[sandalman]

what the heck is the Super Class??? never heard of it before.

Too much to go into here. A full explanation will be in issue #4 of the magazine and more complete info posted on PDGA.com following the upcoming Summit meeting. Super Class is a new sub-category of golf discs that will be available for Super Class sanctioned play in 2009 and will provide a separate Super Class rating for members.

why cant more info be posted before the Summit? if its a BoD thing, why isnt the current board more in the know? is it waiting for approval at the Summit?

[cgkdisc]

You saw it at the Spring Summit when the prelim title was V-Class. It's not so much approval as having all of the plans organized for the Board to review what the group has done since the previous Summit as we move forward.

[the_kid]

You saw it at the Spring Summit when the prelim title was V-Class. It's not so much approval as having all of the plans organized for the Board to review what the group has done since the previous Summit as we move forward.

So it already was V-class but the higher ups changed it to "super-class"? What a bunch of goobers.

[krupicka]

From the looks of it, Super Class limits discs to a subclass. It could be better named. Maybe "Lids".

[bruce_brakel]

If we had standardized rules for vintage disc golf, it would still be vintage disc golf. Like 150, glow and orange-only, people really aren't looking for opportunities to stock and learn another bag full of discs, except when compelled by free tickets to Japan or winter daylight limitations or free beer.

[the_kid]

I would love to play V-golf but what discs would be included?

[cgkdisc]

No one posting here is the core target market for Super Class other than TDs looking to expand their player base. But then Bruce is one of the few who offers MA4.

[cgkdisc]

I would love to play V-golf but what discs would be included?

All discs you see on the PDGA Approved table that are 24.1cm or larger except for the Jaguar and Condor with too sharp an edge.

[sandalman]

ok, i remember the VClass discussion, thanks.

i guess we could just as easily offer single mold tourneys, or restricted mold tourneys, using the same concept.

[johnbiscoe]

what makes it worth the ORG's effort? i don't really see the demand.

[sandalman]

me neither. i'm just saying we could i dont see anything wrong with it either. Chuck came up with the idea, i believe. there isnt much, if any, org work required, so what the heck... if it grows interest in the sport, or some aspect of the sport, or some niche of the sport, i say what the heck, let it rip.

[cwphish]

Sounds like that would mean Disc Protected Divisions! Awesome!

How many total world champions will there be then? Why limit it there.

Next divisional restructuring could include, thumber protected divisions, The Scooby-Doo'ers, and my personal favorite Chicken Wingers!

I can see it now...........Max Crotts - 2010 Chicken Wing World Champion (plastic bag and all)! Schwebby would surely be the frontrunner for the Thumber Division.

[cgkdisc]

Swimming and track are no strangers to spreading around the World titles when you see all of the race lengths that players can win gold medals for. Swimming is the only discipline where you could realistically win eight gold medals. Track needs to add the 50m dash along with race walking and pairs sack hop medals for 100m, 200m and definitely relays. The mixed pairs sack hop relay 4x50 would require the depth of 8 great sack hoppers (yes, I went there... )

[cwphish]

Reminds me of the Catholic School Olympics where I grew up in NYC!

[crotts]

I can see it now...........Max Crotts - 2010 Chicken Wing World Champion (plastic bag and all)! Schwebby would surely be the frontrunner for the Thumber Division.

the plastic bag is going under some reconstruction, needs some reenforcement and a better drink holder, look for it in '09

: ) :

[ChrisWoj]

Swimming and track are no strangers to spreading around the World titles when you see all of the race lengths that players can win gold medals for. Swimming is the only discipline where you could realistically win eight gold medals. Track needs to add the 50m dash along with race walking and pairs sack hop medals for 100m, 200m and definitely relays. The mixed pairs sack hop relay 4x50 would require the depth of 8 great sack hoppers (yes, I went there... )

50M Dash is a track event. Held at Indoor Meets, where the 100M would have to include a curve.