Ask Chuck Kennedy

[Mark_Stephens]

I thought I would find this in the Competition Manual but, I did not. I have an event coming up next week. It is a series event. For 1 player the first event in the series was his first PDGA event. His score is more than 20 than the division would allow so, according to the CM he has to play the higher division. However, I thought that I had heard that until you have a certain number of rounds in for your rating there was another option. Of course that could just be a rumor...

Any help is appreciated.

[cgkdisc]

If a player's rating is based on fewer than 4 rounds, the Tour Director will consider a waiver if asked. tourmgr@pdga.com

[krupicka]

The tour director can also waive it for the series if there is a series rule that allows people to stay in their initial division all year.

[Mark_Stephens]

Yeah, when I sanctioned the events we were not planning on having an series so I did not check the nice little box in the sanctioning agreement AND 2.2.B.4 does say that the player must be within 20 points of the division breaks.

[bruce_brakel]

Mark, you don't need an answer. There's no rational reason why you'd want to allow a player to bag down by more than 20 points. You're aiming the gun at your own foot there. Take your finger off the trigger.

[wisenheimer]

chuck, do u happen to know when the next world rankings would be updated? thx.

[cgkdisc]

I can't do it until Roger sends me the ratings file to process. Hopefully by this weekend.

[jmonny]

Chuck...I haven't been able to login to the MB on my home cpu for over a week. I made sure the password was correct but it just flashes white then stays at "login". My work cpu works fine. What might be the problem? Perhaps I should ask Terry this but I couldn't find a recent post of his to respond to...thanks

[Mark_Stephens]

Mark, you don't need an answer. There's no rational reason why you'd want to allow a player to bag down by more than 20 points. You're aiming the gun at your own foot there. Take your finger off the trigger.

You are right Bruce, I don't WANT that. However, I do want all the information on the subject so that I can explain it to the player. However, he decided to play the higher division on his own this time anyway.

[cgkdisc]

Chuck...I haven't been able to login to the MB on my home cpu for over a week.

I don't do anything to run this MB, just post a lot. I barely remember my login if I have to do it on another computer while traveling. Contact a moderator for help.

[krupicka]

Chuck...I haven't been able to login to the MB on my home cpu for over a week. I made sure the password was correct but it just flashes white then stays at "login". My work cpu works fine. What might be the problem?

Delete all of your cookies for pdga.com in your browser. Then try to login.

[dfee]

Question: A player is signed up for the Peoria Open this weekend in the Recreational division. However, on Tuesday he just got his first rating ever, and it is 911. This is above the limit for Rec, but I was thinking I read somewhere there is a grace period (1 week maybe) before he has to move up because he was already previously registered in the recreational division. Is there such a thing? Or do I need to inform the player that he must move up to intermediate?

Thanks in advance.
Dustin Fee

[cgkdisc]

Players have a 2-week grace period, essentially 2 weekends, following the new ratings posting before they have to move up IF they had preregistered in a lower division than their new rating AND the difference is less than 20 points above the break. Sounds like he would be OK in Rec if he wishes to remain there. Since he has a new rating, I would think he'd be OK switching to Intermediate but he's not forced to do so.

[dfee]

Okay, I will let him know. Thank you for the quick response.

[my_hero]

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Players like

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playe...?PDGANum=12947

who has been inactive for quite some time, what rounds will be dropped after playing this weekend and lets say no more rounds until the next update?

[cgkdisc]

Depends how many rounds he plays before the next update. If he plays at least 8 then all of those rounds will drop. If he plays less than 8 then we'll use what we need of the old ones to get 8 and use the highest rated of those that fall in the same event.

[my_hero]

I'm beginning to understand now. He will gain four 15 hole rounds this weekend, and most likely will play our home course 1 day C-tier in July. He'll probably end up with 6 PDGA rounds before the next update.

[cgkdisc]

Actually, we go back no more than 24 months no matter what. So only rounds in 2006 less than 24 months from his most recent round that gets in the next update would be used if needed to make 8.

[TroMac]

I was wondering when the Parklane Drive results would become official. The event director told me he turned in the Final TD report a long time ago. This was only my second tournament, so I was hoping to have it included in my rating.
Thanks

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...eRatings=1#Open

[cgkdisc]

Notice that I'm also in that same tournament and would like to see it processed. Just because the tournament report has been submitted, it doesn't mean everything was completed (such as being received by the June 19th deadline and/or all payments received). But Gentry doesn't indicate why the process wasn't yet completed when he prints the list of events that weren't processed. The fact that the results are still shown as unofficial would indicate the complete reporting process is still not completed. The TD needs to find out what isn't complete and make sure it gets processed in the next update.

[jHarr]

so its okay 2 pro masters who've each won over $400 this year can play am1 in a Btier event... I thought takin cash meant an appeal for amnesty was needed, regardless of their ratings...
/topic of the year!

edit: thanks for the quick response ck34, I get it now I swear...

[cgkdisc]

Petitioning to revert to Am is the policy for pros who want to play Am in future Championships. If your rating is under the specified level for pros sliding over to am (see page 5: www.pdga.com/documents/2008/08TourStandards.pdf ), then there's no problem.

[hallp]

chuck, i have played a few open tournaments but never cashed. my question is, if i do play more open tourneys and i do cash, is there any way i can take plastic instead and still be able to play am worlds next year????

[cgkdisc]

If you are currently listed as a PDGA Pro member, I would suggest immediately submitting your request to revert to Am status now indicating you have yet to cash. You can then continue to play Open the rest of the year and accept merch instead of cash if you end up cashing. Then, renew as an amateur in 2009 and you're good to go at Am Worlds. Submit your request to Dave Gentry at the PDGA office: tourmgr@pdga.com

[hallp]

i am actually a 933 rated registered am player, but i play pro more than half the time, mostly to enjoy the view lol , but i plan on playing am worlds in kansas in '09 and i want to be sure i can accept merch and still be classified as an am even though i cashed in an open tourney!

[cgkdisc]

Yes, you can stay classified as an Am as long as you take merch intead of cash when entering pro and cashing.

[wisenheimer]

any chance of world rankings this week?

[cgkdisc]

Just waiting for the PDGA office to get time to post them. Here you go for starters.

World Rank	Prev Rank	Rating*	First	Last
1	1	965	Des	Reading
2	2	960	Valarie	Jenkins
3	3	958	Elaine	King
4	4	952	Carrie Burl	Berlogar
5	5	958	Angela	Tschiggfrie
6	6	955	Birgitta	Lagerholm
7	8	938	Nicole	Frazer
8	7	938	Kathryn	Manley
9	9	926	Sarah	Stanhope
10	10	938	Barrett	White

World Rank	Prev Rank	Rating*	First	Last
1	1	1037	David	Feldberg
2	2	1036	Ken	Climo
3	3	1030	Nathan	Doss
4	5	1028	Josh	Anthon
5	4	1032	Steven	Rico
6	9	1027	Eric	McCabe
7	6	1026	Avery	Jenkins
8	8	1030	Barry	Schultz
9	12	1023	Cale	Leiviska
10	17	1025	Markus	Källström

[wisenheimer]

my rating is 1003 and it says on the world rankings it is 1000. does it matter at all?

[Jayviar]

Thats because the world rankings only uses B Tiers and above to calculate your rating.