Ask Chuck Kennedy - Page 12

deathbypar · Apr 09 2007, 04:25 PM

thanks

PirateDiscGolf · Apr 10 2007, 06:50 AM

Do ratings only get updated for those players that have events reported for that update period? It is possible that the dropping of events over 1 year old could move a player into another division (up or down), so I don't see why all active (ie. paid) members wouldn't get an update.

krupicka · Apr 10 2007, 07:58 AM

Events more than 1 year from your most recent round are dropped, not 1 year from the update. If it was otherwise, players that didn't play for a year would no longer have a rating.

PirateDiscGolf · Apr 10 2007, 09:33 AM

Okay, that's makes sense. Thanks.

boobs · Apr 10 2007, 09:58 AM

Hi Chuck,
I just sent you a PM.
Thanks.
Aleksey.

skaZZirf · Apr 10 2007, 11:38 AM

How r the ratings gonna work for the philly open...two rounds of 24...

ck34 · Apr 10 2007, 11:49 AM

No problem. We rate any rounds that are more than 12 holes. We did the whole Am Worlds when we first started ratings as a "round" that was 144 holes long! That's because we didn't know who played in what pools.

bravo · Apr 10 2007, 07:53 PM

wats up ive looked at my identification page and my rating says as of jan 30 not april 10

ck34 · Apr 10 2007, 07:56 PM

Your rating doesn't get updated if you don't have any new events rated since the last update.

xterramatt · Apr 25 2007, 03:09 PM

How much Woodchuck would Chuck chug if Chuck would chug Woodchuck?

They appear to be a sponsor of the National Tour.

ck34 · Apr 25 2007, 03:17 PM

Maybe they would want to get the rights to my Augusta Chronicle cover photo for their advertising?

bruce_brakel · Apr 25 2007, 04:56 PM

Hey Chuck, are Kelsey's lefthanded rounds low enough to be "No"? http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...eRatings=1#Open
I never understood that standard deviation stuff. About where would her under/over line fall?

ck34 · Apr 25 2007, 05:26 PM

Looks like it easily. She has a 789 dropped in her current ratings set.

rizbee · Apr 25 2007, 05:29 PM

Hi Chuck,

I enjoyed meeting you in person and playing a practice round on the lovely Jackson Memorial course last week. Is there anything in the works to merge the scores/ratings for those of us who played the short Ed course layout at the HoF last weekend? I'm scratching for every rating point I can get...

Allen

ck34 · Apr 25 2007, 05:34 PM

Dave is the one to ask. I think he plans to merge the results at least for ratings but we won't know until processing time in June how that gets done. We certainly had enough time to get to know the Jackson during the round...

twoods14862 · Apr 27 2007, 07:22 PM

Hi Chuck, why not look at player rating on a seasonal average, or lifetime average (per division) ? Sort of like what baseball does with batting averages ?

ck34 · Apr 27 2007, 07:35 PM

Your history is shown for each time your rating is updated with up to five values per year for active players. There are several other things I've wanted to calculate or display but the programming resources haven't been available yet.

ching_lizard · May 02 2007, 12:47 AM

Chuck - is there a link to information about holding a ratings based event somewhere out here? I searched for over 20 minutes and couldn't find one.

Thanks.

L

ck34 · May 02 2007, 10:43 AM

There's no such thing as a pure ratings based event this year (next year it should be easier). However, you can put one together that's real close by offering only Open, Advanced, Int, Rec, Adv Women & Int Women. Since older players and women are allowed to play in those predominantly male divisions, you've got just about everyone covered by offering a fair division based on rating. The only players who might have to play above their level will be males of any age with ratings under 825. In addition, I would recommend offering Trophy Only in Open so it might encourage high rated Ams to try Open and provide a budget option for older pros with ratings over 954 who might not want to fully donate to the younger hotshots who they have to play in Open.

chrispfrisbee · May 06 2007, 11:26 PM

Is there any way to stop non current and non PDGA member players from sandbagging in sanctioned events?

ck34 · May 07 2007, 08:21 AM

Yes. The TD has control to place players in whatever division (s)he wishes. If a nonmember wants to play Intermediate, the TD can say they have to play Advanced or even Open if it's appropriate. I believe TDs get the ratings of the non-current members in their area so they know what level they are.

the_kid · May 07 2007, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Yes. The TD has control to place players in whatever division (s)he wishes. If a nonmember wants to play Intermediate, the TD can say they have to play Advanced or even Open if it's appropriate. I believe TDs get the ratings of the non-current members in their area so they know what level they are.

What if the guy was rated 950 but hasn't payed dues in three years and is more like a 1000 rated player? Can you still bump him to Open?

krupicka · May 07 2007, 09:34 AM

Even if the guy was rated 650 last November and as long as he hasn't paid his dues, the TD could make him play open.

Rustbelter · May 07 2007, 10:26 AM

Chuck:

Is there a way to sort the membership by age from the PDGA web-site? For example, could I sort all players who are above 50, regardless of state of residence or AM/Pro status?

Thanks,

Chuck

ck34 · May 07 2007, 02:23 PM

No. You only can select members by certain criteria such as state and division and they will be ranked by that selction item such as points or money won. Adding those features you are suggesting would be great and the PDGA would like to do more but they haven't had the resources to do it yet.

johnrock · May 07 2007, 02:40 PM

Chuck,

I was just perusing the NT Program and I noticed your article on 2007 Worlds in Highbridge. Very nice. As I was looking at the map of the courses, I noticed the term "Biffy". What is that referring to?

ck34 · May 07 2007, 02:53 PM

Restroom. It's a nicer term you see on some models of port-a-johns, not a new type of disc golf hazard.

janttila · May 07 2007, 03:06 PM

Hey Chuck, I'm gonna be heading up to Ashland, Wi this weekend to see some family. Do you have a suggestion to get a hold of John? And is there anyone playing Highbridge regularly? It'd be nice to have a golf partner at the course. Thanks, Joe

ck34 · May 07 2007, 05:21 PM

John is tracking his email daily so I'd suggest that. He's at: jjokinen@centurytel.net

All four courses are open and there's regular player traffic here already even today on Monday. I've been here since Thursday and leave tomorrow and there have been at least 10-15 players each day. This weekend is supposed to be good weather, too.

Lyle O Ross · May 08 2007, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Yes. The TD has control to place players in whatever division (s)he wishes. If a nonmember wants to play Intermediate, the TD can say they have to play Advanced or even Open if it's appropriate. I believe TDs get the ratings of the non-current members in their area so they know what level they are.

What if the guy was rated 950 but hasn't payed dues in three years and is more like a 1000 rated player? Can you still bump him to Open?

I think the best solution for this situation is to actually give them two options, play open or play rec, trophy only.

Apr 09 2007, 04:25 PM	#331
deathbypar Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: T Town Posts: 1,086	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy thanks __________________ I drive, carry, and wear a Magnum

Apr 10 2007, 06:50 AM	#332
PirateDiscGolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 139	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Do ratings only get updated for those players that have events reported for that update period? It is possible that the dropping of events over 1 year old could move a player into another division (up or down), so I don't see why all active (ie. paid) members wouldn't get an update.

Apr 10 2007, 07:58 AM	#333
krupicka PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,425	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Events more than 1 year from your most recent round are dropped, not 1 year from the update. If it was otherwise, players that didn't play for a year would no longer have a rating. __________________ PDGA #28238

Apr 10 2007, 09:33 AM	#334
PirateDiscGolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 139	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Okay, that's makes sense. Thanks.

Apr 10 2007, 09:58 AM	#335
boobs Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seffner, Florida Posts: 584	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Hi Chuck, I just sent you a PM. Thanks. Aleksey.

Apr 10 2007, 11:38 AM	#336
skaZZirf PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Port City Posts: 1,812	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy How r the ratings gonna work for the philly open...two rounds of 24...

Apr 10 2007, 11:49 AM	#337
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy No problem. We rate any rounds that are more than 12 holes. We did the whole Am Worlds when we first started ratings as a "round" that was 144 holes long! That's because we didn't know who played in what pools.

Apr 10 2007, 07:53 PM	#338
bravo PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,056	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy wats up ive looked at my identification page and my rating says as of jan 30 not april 10

Apr 10 2007, 07:56 PM	#339
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Your rating doesn't get updated if you don't have any new events rated since the last update.

Apr 25 2007, 03:09 PM	#340
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy How much Woodchuck would Chuck chug if Chuck would chug Woodchuck? They appear to be a sponsor of the National Tour. __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

Apr 25 2007, 03:17 PM	#341
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Maybe they would want to get the rights to my Augusta Chronicle cover photo for their advertising?

Apr 25 2007, 04:56 PM	#342
bruce_brakel PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dying More Discs Posts: 5,573	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Hey Chuck, are Kelsey's lefthanded rounds low enough to be "No"? http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...eRatings=1#Open I never understood that standard deviation stuff. About where would her under/over line fall? __________________ In it for the crown.

Apr 25 2007, 05:26 PM	#343
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Looks like it easily. She has a 789 dropped in her current ratings set.

Apr 25 2007, 05:29 PM	#344
rizbee PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 2,402	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Hi Chuck, I enjoyed meeting you in person and playing a practice round on the lovely Jackson Memorial course last week. Is there anything in the works to merge the scores/ratings for those of us who played the short Ed course layout at the HoF last weekend? I'm scratching for every rating point I can get... Allen __________________ "Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic disc golfer. Rizbee will be that golfer. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, birdie-er." - Oscar Goldman

Apr 25 2007, 05:34 PM	#345
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Dave is the one to ask. I think he plans to merge the results at least for ratings but we won't know until processing time in June how that gets done. We certainly had enough time to get to know the Jackson during the round...

Apr 27 2007, 07:22 PM	#346
twoods14862 Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hoosier Posts: 13	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Hi Chuck, why not look at player rating on a seasonal average, or lifetime average (per division) ? Sort of like what baseball does with batting averages ?

Apr 27 2007, 07:35 PM	#347
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Your history is shown for each time your rating is updated with up to five values per year for active players. There are several other things I've wanted to calculate or display but the programming resources haven't been available yet.

May 02 2007, 12:47 AM	#348
ching_lizard PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,562	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Chuck - is there a link to information about holding a ratings based event somewhere out here? I searched for over 20 minutes and couldn't find one. Thanks. L __________________ "You can jump into a ring with a dozen clowns and begin reciting Shakespeare, but to the audience, you're just the 13th clown." - Anon

May 02 2007, 10:43 AM	#349
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy There's no such thing as a pure ratings based event this year (next year it should be easier). However, you can put one together that's real close by offering only Open, Advanced, Int, Rec, Adv Women & Int Women. Since older players and women are allowed to play in those predominantly male divisions, you've got just about everyone covered by offering a fair division based on rating. The only players who might have to play above their level will be males of any age with ratings under 825. In addition, I would recommend offering Trophy Only in Open so it might encourage high rated Ams to try Open and provide a budget option for older pros with ratings over 954 who might not want to fully donate to the younger hotshots who they have to play in Open.

May 06 2007, 11:26 PM	#350
chrispfrisbee PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Comin\' to an event near you.. Posts: 843	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Is there any way to stop non current and non PDGA member players from sandbagging in sanctioned events? __________________ eatsleepdisc.com

May 07 2007, 08:21 AM	#351
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Yes. The TD has control to place players in whatever division (s)he wishes. If a nonmember wants to play Intermediate, the TD can say they have to play Advanced or even Open if it's appropriate. I believe TDs get the ratings of the non-current members in their area so they know what level they are.

May 07 2007, 09:34 AM	#353
krupicka PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,425	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Even if the guy was rated 650 last November and as long as he hasn't paid his dues, the TD could make him play open. __________________ PDGA #28238

May 07 2007, 10:26 AM	#354
Rustbelter PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 31	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Chuck: Is there a way to sort the membership by age from the PDGA web-site? For example, could I sort all players who are above 50, regardless of state of residence or AM/Pro status? Thanks, Chuck __________________ It's Mr. Weenie Time

May 07 2007, 02:23 PM	#355
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy No. You only can select members by certain criteria such as state and division and they will be ranked by that selction item such as points or money won. Adding those features you are suggesting would be great and the PDGA would like to do more but they haven't had the resources to do it yet.

May 07 2007, 02:40 PM	#356
johnrock PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Rock Yard Amarillo, Texas Posts: 1,432	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Chuck, I was just perusing the NT Program and I noticed your article on 2007 Worlds in Highbridge. Very nice. As I was looking at the map of the courses, I noticed the term "Biffy". What is that referring to?

May 07 2007, 02:53 PM	#357
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Restroom. It's a nicer term you see on some models of port-a-johns, not a new type of disc golf hazard.

May 07 2007, 03:06 PM	#358
janttila Community Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Howell, MI Posts: 961	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy Hey Chuck, I'm gonna be heading up to Ashland, Wi this weekend to see some family. Do you have a suggestion to get a hold of John? And is there anyone playing Highbridge regularly? It'd be nice to have a golf partner at the course. Thanks, Joe

May 07 2007, 05:21 PM	#359
ck34 PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 9,529	Re: Ask Chuck Kennedy John is tracking his email daily so I'd suggest that. He's at: jjokinen@centurytel.net All four courses are open and there's regular player traffic here already even today on Monday. I've been here since Thursday and leave tomorrow and there have been at least 10-15 players each day. This weekend is supposed to be good weather, too.

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