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[scooop08]

I use the Baby Blue Illusions as my main driver too.

[dgdave]

one of the gas stations in OKC has about 8-10 of the

[discchucker]

Mac,
I don't know how many people loved the light "Baby-Blue Illusions", but I love them. Now they're gone. What can be done about that? Is it just me or do you have a market that loves these things as much as me to recreate more runs like these? I hope so because I was throwing the hell out of these things. Call Shawn Sinclair ASAP about these things, because I've been hounding him for more. Send Shawn a bunch of the new Assassins and If you can find them anywhere, a bunch of the light baby blue Illusions (Please Please).
-Scott

Are you throwing the first or second run of the BB Illusions? Because there is a big difference. The 1st runs were a lot less overstable when compared to the 2nd runs.

[Mark_Stephens]

Which one did Gurthie win the distance contest with?

[mikeP]

Which one did Gurthie win the distance contest with?

I'm pretty sure 1st runs b/c G told me they were flippy...but then again lots of things are flippy for GG!

[the_kid]

Yeah Geezus has sick D and GiZZo hits some sick putts.

[S_Wells]

1st run baby blue (they're almost white) and they are dead nutz straight to understable. They BOMB! We want more! The other run is sick overstable, almost un-throwable.
-Scott

[scooop08]

I use one from the 1st run for hyzer flip to anhyzer and another from the 2nd run that I throw flat that does a huge s

[gdstour]

There was a run of white E Illusions that are a bit more under stable than the Baby Blue, but really similar in flight.
Most are stamped with a black hot stamp and some have a QC on the bottom.

The E Illusions are a bit hard to produce because of the mass on the rim. Hopefully we will have that mold back in soon and get some ran.

[discchucker]

There was a run of white E Illusions that are a bit more under stable than the Baby Blue, but really similar in flight.
Most are stamped with a black hot stamp and some have a QC on the bottom.

I have a couple of these bad boys and I would agree with Dave that they do fly a bit more understable than the first run baby blues. The plastic is a bit grippier too than the first run baby blues.

[JHBlader86]

Joe, if you have any more those Illusion QC discs please PM me if you're willing to part with a few.

[Smokey102977]

I still have several 2nd run BB Illusions that are hard to sell because they are so stable, but I have a couple that I use for a forehand S.

[discchucker]

Joe, if you have any more those Illusion QC discs please PM me if you're willing to part with a few.

Unfortunately I only have two left. So...no can do on the parting. If I get anymore of them, I will let you know.

[JCthrills]

Just added the Assasin to my bag, love this thing & the way mine seems to raise up a bit if I get a low release (not sure if they're all like this but mine is very domey)

Kudos to Dave for the support of fundraising tournaments, w/o it I probably wouldn't have stumbled across this disc that will no doubt shave some strokes off my score.

[Mark_Stephens]

Is that the one from Helping HollyWoods? If so, you are just NOW throwing it? LOL

[JCthrills]

No, I'm just now adding it to my daily/tourney bag With all my "touring" this summer I didn't want to try & learn a new disc in a week. Having a few weeks in between my last tourney & the one coming up this weekend I auditioned a few new discs that I've picked up over the summer. The Assassin is the only one that made the cut.

Oh, & did you notice the official name of the new bag? Ozark Back Pack... I gotta think I at least partially inspired that

[Mark_Stephens]

Well, we have a big stack of them in weights from 175 to 172. If you need another one let me know.

[JHBlader86]

Hey David, can you tell us more about these Hemp Wizards that Marshall Street has? Are they the same as the original Organics or a completely new plastic? And also, will they be available in Warlocks and Magics soon?

[discchucker]

I just wanted to take a quick second to thank Dave for making the E-Magic and E-Assassin. These two disc's were invaluable to me this past weekend. I am astounded at the distance I can get from the assassin, every time I throw it.

[JHBlader86]

Are there any particular Assassins that are more stable than others? I love the feel of the Assassin and it's long, straight flight when new, but after a round it usually starts turning over and getting flippy fast. It's forced me to take the Assassin out because I cannot rely upon it anymore until more stable runs come out.

[dgdave]

I found the oranges and yellows are about the same. The red were deffinately less stable

[discchucker]

I am still throwing my proto red one (174g) and it is still straight stable for me. Now, my other red one (170g) flies a big old s-curve when thrown with some hyzer. When thrown flat it flies a long anhyzer. The Assassin/Magic combo got me a lot of deuces this past weekend and got me the "W".

[Smokey102977]

I love the Assassin. Even with a torn Labrum, I threw one about 500 ft. the other day flat land! That was my only good throw before my arm went dead.

[gdstour]

Are there any particular Assassins that are more stable than others? I love the feel of the Assassin and it's long, straight flight when new, but after a round it usually starts turning over and getting flippy fast. It's forced me to take the Assassin out because I cannot rely upon it anymore until more stable runs come out.

I have peach colored Assassin that flies pretty much the same as when I first threw it.
The Assassin is a straight flying stable disc,,, with too much torque or off axis rotation it may flip,,, with out enough spin or power and it may be a bit too over stable.

[readysetstab]

Some auctions for Gateway throwers - mostly putters. 1 Urethane Speed Demon.

[gdstour]

Hey David, can you tell us more about these Hemp Wizards that Marshall Street has? Are they the same as the original Organics or a completely new plastic? And also, will they be available in Warlocks and Magics soon?

About 7 years ago we ran some Hemp Material that we received from the UK. We did the run for Chris Himing who was from Australia living in Texas working for Millennium.
I think we ran about 250 discs, mostly Sabres and Demons.
There was a small amount of resin left over along some of the poorly molded parts thay I hung on to all this time.
I ground up the bad parts and mixed in the help resin adding it to a SS batch of Black and WAAAAALLA about 120 black hemp putters!!! The thing is this product cannot be shipped to the US any longer so this will probably be the last batch.
I do have about 20 overweight Demons (190-210grams) that i can use for a batch that could make another 50, but I may just put the overweight HEMP Demons on E bay.

This particular run of Hemp Wizards only has a hint of the original smell and they molded up a lot flatter than regular Wizards as the Hemp decrease the amount of shrinkage. They have a really grippy surface and are flexible in the flight plate and a little firm around the rim.
I have heard several people comment on how great they feel, but most wish they were not all black.

If you like black putters, try one of these you'll be Jammin!

[dgdave]

Whats the work on the VooDoo or any new mids?

[Mark_Stephens]

Per the interview on PDGA Radio Dave said that due to great sales on the Magic the Voodoo is being delayed as to not cut into sales.

[JHBlader86]

Dave, saw the Organic Illusion on Marshall Street. How do these fly compared to the average run of Illusions?

[nydle28011]

wouldn't mind seeing an organic run demon, if they could be anything like the old hemp demon that would be awesome!!!!!