Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! - Page 9

slo · Jun 05 2005, 03:16 PM

That's a new one to me, too...how many different platforms in the Innova GD stable?

Jun 05 2005, 06:08 PM

Hi Dave,

Has the Hydra mold been tweaked recently? I picked up a replacement yesterday. Could be my imagination, but the bottom of the rim feels more rounded than I remember.

Thanks, as always.

20460chase · Jun 05 2005, 08:42 PM

Hi Dave, I have a question about a disc. Its a "choice of champions" stamped driver. It feels alot like a Cheetah or Gazelle. Were these both or either done in special edition plastic with this stamp? Do you know how many were done? Thanks you Sir.

Jun 06 2005, 02:56 AM

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DGday, if Mark was talking about the particular color, it is definitely rare. If he was talking about any colored FL, it is not as rare, but still rare. Most everything Mark sells is rare to some degree or another, or hard to find.

Dave, is Mark / DiscGolfValues.com located close to Innova West?

Jun 06 2005, 08:06 AM

Dave,

Any plans on running the Eagle in the pro plastic?? I have a couple KC Pro Eagles which I love so much, cause they are so grippy and faster than Champion Eagles. Thanks much!

ChrisEBear

davei · Jun 06 2005, 08:40 AM

Hawk, basically it is rim width.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 08:42 AM

greatsky, that is correct.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 08:50 AM

fore, that is probably a molding variation. The Hydras are particularly susceptible to that. Sometimes there is more of a concavity to the bevel than other times.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 08:57 AM

Chase, it is most likely a Cheetah variant. If it was a Gazelle, you could tell by the wall of the inner rim having a bead. It might be a Cheetah 2. Don't know the number made, but it wasn't a lot.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 09:01 AM

robj, it is relatively close. 40 miles south in Anaheim. But DGV is an internet business that can ship from anywhere. Mark owns and operates DGV, but he also works here part time, and for Hero Discs of Japan.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 09:04 AM

chris, no plans right now, but possible in limited runs in the future. Time would have to permit.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 09:13 AM

slo, there are six different platforms for regular golf discs. The Condor/Zephyr/Lynx would be another. The Scorpion/Barracuda is another. Polecat, Birdie, Piranha is another.

CAMBAGGER · Jun 06 2005, 11:14 AM

Hey Dave,
I had 2 Glo Aviars that were super stiff. They had a star stamp on them and just said "Aviar", not "Aviar Putter" like all that I've seen lately. The "Aviar-Putter discs are not quite as stiff. I aced with one and threw the other in a river..ouch. These things were great, they held up to the Oklahoma wind almost as good as any of my mid-rangers. Have they been dis-continued or is there somewhere I can get some more of these? Thanks.

davei · Jun 06 2005, 11:21 AM

Cambagger, I would check with Innova East or Zonedriven. It might have been a variation of small bead putter or stiffy (Classic).

CAMBAGGER · Jun 06 2005, 11:22 AM

Thanks Dave.

dehaas · Jun 06 2005, 02:33 PM

Hey Dave,
A buddy of mine mentioned something about a new midrange, called the coyote, being produced. He said he'd heard that it was supposed to be a touch understable compared to the roc and that these were supposed to come in the players' packs at the Des Moines NT tournament here in like 2 weeks. Could you shine some light on this disc?

davei · Jun 06 2005, 03:29 PM

derek, that sounds about right. The Coyote is a 180 size midrange that has a little high speed turn and less low speed fade than a Roc or Shark. It's like a beat Roc with less fade. It's only made in candy at this time.

gnduke · Jun 06 2005, 03:32 PM

Sounds like a beat 2002 CE ROC. When can I order some ?

dehaas · Jun 06 2005, 04:22 PM

thanks Dave

davei · Jun 06 2005, 07:20 PM

gnduke, I never seem to guess this right. We have been making them for about 2 weeks, but there is the lag for shipping and stamping that always seems to take longer than I think. It should be one week, but that probably means three.

Jun 06 2005, 09:10 PM

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derek, that sounds about right. The Coyote is a 180 size midrange that has a little high speed turn and less low speed fade than a Roc or Shark. It's like a beat Roc with less fade. It's only made in candy at this time.

Sounds like a cobra with less fade maybe?

Jun 06 2005, 11:11 PM

Dave said "Stiffy"...

20460chase · Jun 07 2005, 12:49 AM

Sweet. Im paid for Des Moines.

davei · Jun 07 2005, 08:45 AM

JoeT, I was thinking that myself flightwise, but it has more of the feel in the hand of a Roc or Shark.

davei · Jun 07 2005, 01:12 PM

felix,

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Hi Dave,
Has the Hydra mold been tweaked recently? I picked up a replacement yesterday. Could be my imagination, but the bottom of the rim feels more rounded than I remember.

I found out that a newer version has been shipped. It has been tweaked, but not in the way that you described, or that I replied to. The nose is a little thicker at the top.

Jun 07 2005, 02:16 PM

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The Coyote is a 180 size midrange that has a little high speed turn and less low speed fade than a Roc or Shark. It's like a beat Roc with less fade. It's only made in candy at this time.

Dave, i am so happy to hear about this i could howl (like a Coyote)

Jun 07 2005, 02:24 PM

Dave, I was wondering if you have ever tried to run golf weight minis in a driver mold?

rhett · Jun 07 2005, 02:29 PM

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Dave, I was wondering if you have ever tried to run golf weight minis in a driver mold?

There could be nothing other than a mini-Viper.

davei · Jun 07 2005, 03:20 PM

Rocco, no. We don't have a driver mini. We have considered it. Maybe in the future.

Sharky · Jun 07 2005, 04:02 PM

Re the Coyote:

What do you mean by a "180 size midrange"?

How would you compare it to a 178 SB Roc?

Thanks.

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Jun 05 2005, 06:08 PM	#242
Guest Posts: n/a	Hydra tweak? Hi Dave, Has the Hydra mold been tweaked recently? I picked up a replacement yesterday. Could be my imagination, but the bottom of the rim feels more rounded than I remember. Thanks, as always.

Jun 05 2005, 08:42 PM	#243
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Hydra tweak? Hi Dave, I have a question about a disc. Its a "choice of champions" stamped driver. It feels alot like a Cheetah or Gazelle. Were these both or either done in special edition plastic with this stamp? Do you know how many were done? Thanks you Sir. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jun 06 2005, 08:06 AM	#245
Guest Posts: n/a	pro eagle?? Dave, Any plans on running the Eagle in the pro plastic?? I have a couple KC Pro Eagles which I love so much, cause they are so grippy and faster than Champion Eagles. Thanks much! ChrisEBear

Jun 06 2005, 08:40 AM	#246
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Ask Dave D Here Hawk, basically it is rim width. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 08:42 AM	#247
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: What\'s A Platform? greatsky, that is correct. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 08:50 AM	#248
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Hydra tweak? fore, that is probably a molding variation. The Hydras are particularly susceptible to that. Sometimes there is more of a concavity to the bevel than other times. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 08:57 AM	#249
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Hydra tweak? Chase, it is most likely a Cheetah variant. If it was a Gazelle, you could tell by the wall of the inner rim having a bead. It might be a Cheetah 2. Don't know the number made, but it wasn't a lot. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 09:01 AM	#250
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Firebird FL robj, it is relatively close. 40 miles south in Anaheim. But DGV is an internet business that can ship from anywhere. Mark owns and operates DGV, but he also works here part time, and for Hero Discs of Japan. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 09:04 AM	#251
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: pro eagle?? chris, no plans right now, but possible in limited runs in the future. Time would have to permit. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 09:13 AM	#252
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Ask Dave D Here slo, there are six different platforms for regular golf discs. The Condor/Zephyr/Lynx would be another. The Scorpion/Barracuda is another. Polecat, Birdie, Piranha is another. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 11:14 AM	#253
CAMBAGGER PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 1,367	Re: Ask Dave D Here Hey Dave, I had 2 Glo Aviars that were super stiff. They had a star stamp on them and just said "Aviar", not "Aviar Putter" like all that I've seen lately. The "Aviar-Putter discs are not quite as stiff. I aced with one and threw the other in a river..ouch. These things were great, they held up to the Oklahoma wind almost as good as any of my mid-rangers. Have they been dis-continued or is there somewhere I can get some more of these? Thanks. __________________ Professional Pomegranate Eater. "No seed left behind" [b]Ad-Wear.net TWISTED FLYER

Jun 06 2005, 11:21 AM	#254
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D Here Cambagger, I would check with Innova East or Zonedriven. It might have been a variation of small bead putter or stiffy (Classic). __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 11:22 AM	#255
CAMBAGGER PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 1,367	Re: Ask Dave D Here Thanks Dave. __________________ Professional Pomegranate Eater. "No seed left behind" [b]Ad-Wear.net TWISTED FLYER

Jun 06 2005, 02:33 PM	#256
dehaas Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon, IL Posts: 107	Re: Ask Dave D Here Hey Dave, A buddy of mine mentioned something about a new midrange, called the coyote, being produced. He said he'd heard that it was supposed to be a touch understable compared to the roc and that these were supposed to come in the players' packs at the Des Moines NT tournament here in like 2 weeks. Could you shine some light on this disc?

Jun 06 2005, 03:29 PM	#257
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D Here derek, that sounds about right. The Coyote is a 180 size midrange that has a little high speed turn and less low speed fade than a Roc or Shark. It's like a beat Roc with less fade. It's only made in candy at this time. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 03:32 PM	#258
gnduke PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 7,181	Re: Ask Dave D Here Sounds like a beat 2002 CE ROC. When can I order some ?

Jun 06 2005, 04:22 PM	#259
dehaas Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon, IL Posts: 107	Re: Ask Dave D Here thanks Dave

Jun 06 2005, 07:20 PM	#260
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D Here gnduke, I never seem to guess this right. We have been making them for about 2 weeks, but there is the lag for shipping and stamping that always seems to take longer than I think. It should be one week, but that probably means three. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 06 2005, 11:11 PM	#262
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D Here Dave said "Stiffy"...

Jun 07 2005, 12:49 AM	#263
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Ask Dave D Here Sweet. Im paid for Des Moines. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jun 07 2005, 08:45 AM	#264
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D Here JoeT, I was thinking that myself flightwise, but it has more of the feel in the hand of a Roc or Shark. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 07 2005, 02:24 PM	#267
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D Here Dave, I was wondering if you have ever tried to run golf weight minis in a driver mold?

Jun 07 2005, 03:20 PM	#269
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Ask Dave D Here Rocco, no. We don't have a driver mini. We have considered it. Maybe in the future. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 07 2005, 04:02 PM	#270
Sharky PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Laurel, Maryland Planet Earth Posts: 1,150	Re: Ask Dave D Here Re the Coyote: What do you mean by a "180 size midrange"? How would you compare it to a 178 SB Roc? Thanks.

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