Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! - Page 8

cbdiscpimp · May 27 2005, 01:40 PM

Was the KC ever available for hotstamp??? Other then the KC Logo.

underparmike · May 27 2005, 02:07 PM

hey dave the Pro Aviars are available for custom stamps. We got 25 of them for the Louisiana States.

widiscgolf · May 27 2005, 02:12 PM

oh boy... too funny....

davei · May 27 2005, 03:04 PM

mikey, cool, thanks.

axis · May 27 2005, 09:27 PM

Hi Dave,
Thanks, we get the small bead DX Aviars stamped all the time, but do you still make the big bead DX we can stamp?
Thanks,
Axis

davei · May 28 2005, 09:41 AM

axis, no we don't. Sorry.

cromwell · Jun 02 2005, 05:10 PM

hey dave

I have an old Cheetah2 kicking around, did some googling and found out they never went into full production so there weren't many of these made. Anything worth holding onto or worthless memoribilia for an idea that never came to fruition?

thanks

davei · Jun 02 2005, 08:17 PM

cromwell, I don't know what the collector market values as collectable. It is a rare disc, and it won't be produced again.

flynvegas · Jun 02 2005, 11:00 PM

The Cheetah II is selling for b/t $15 and $20. I've got two and will hold on to them.

Jun 02 2005, 11:08 PM

Dave,
I was really excited when I saw a few weeks ago that you were making CFR Glow FL's. I've got a friend who loved his, but I wasn't willing to spend $50+ on ebay for a CE FL. Last week, I found a few CFR X-outs on ebay being sold by Mark from discgolfvalues. One of them was not a glow, but a very light pinkish-red that has black flecks in it. He claimed it was a rare colored CFR FL. I looked on the Innova website, and there is no mention of non-glow FL's. Do you know, how rare is this colored FL?

Jun 02 2005, 11:10 PM

Sorry if this has been asked an answered, but I love the new soft JK Aviars I have picked up recently. Are these discs freaks, or can I expect to be able to get more? Either way I seem to be buying all of them I see.

davei · Jun 03 2005, 08:28 AM

DGday, if Mark was talking about the particular color, it is definitely rare. If he was talking about any colored FL, it is not as rare, but still rare. Most everything Mark sells is rare to some degree or another, or hard to find.

davei · Jun 03 2005, 08:30 AM

ajones, the new run of JKs are soft and very straight flying as opposed to all other runs which have been more low speed overstable.

Plankeye · Jun 03 2005, 08:34 AM

Dave,

I got a 4x JK aviar that is orange from Rick Black this past weekend. This was the first time I ever saw an orange 4x aviar(only had seen white, blue, and yellow).

Were there a lot of these produced? And if so why have I not seen any in the stores around here...

Jun 03 2005, 10:14 AM

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You want a longer Aviar? The newer QMS discs are pretty close. They glide straight and forever. Personally I like the Qmega, which I find to be a longer Aviar. The mold has a little sharper nose and little less bead and has a flatter profile in general. I can throw mine a good 30-40' further than a champ. Aviar, mostly because the Qmega is a bit faster and glides longer and straighter. I don't have any problems flipping my Qmega either.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice. The Millenium QMS (champion plastic) and Aurora MS (pro plastic) have become my go-to midrange and is just the disc i was looking for. They seem to be underappreciated, as not many people i know are very familiar with them. Thanks Dave for all the great discs you have created. Now, all i have to do is learn how to throw them ...

Dick · Jun 03 2005, 11:05 AM

have you noticed the ms has a sharp edge flash to it? i didn't recall them having that, but i was checking one out last weekend and it seemed kind of sharp. i like more of a bead.

davei · Jun 03 2005, 12:05 PM

william, I have not seen an Orange JK. Couldn't have been many of them.

rickb · Jun 03 2005, 01:59 PM

Dave the East coast warehouse had a number of orange 4X JK Aviars. It is trully a beautiful disc in both appearance and function. They seem to be a little bit softer than the other colors.

Plank if you need more let me know as I still have a couple of dozen left.

oxalate · Jun 03 2005, 02:20 PM

Rick - you a PM.

axis · Jun 04 2005, 12:53 AM

Hi Dave,
My new Orions have G4 written on the bottom with the weight. Is this cryptic? It might be a trivia quetion one day.
Thanks,
Axis

mf100forever · Jun 04 2005, 07:44 AM

All Orions are marked G4, but what does it mean, "´Generation 4" or.....

davei · Jun 04 2005, 09:41 AM

mf100, it did stand for generation 4, at least the 4 did. I don't remember if there was any significance to g other than as a letter.

Plankeye · Jun 04 2005, 09:43 AM

Dave, is the Orion the TLS that you were talking about last year?

Jun 04 2005, 02:13 PM

dave I have a starfire CFR from the 2003 ST patricks classic the abbreviations on the back are SX 167g do you know what run this might be?

davei · Jun 04 2005, 11:30 PM

it_, no the TLS is on a TL platform. The Orion is on a Sidewinder platform.

davei · Jun 04 2005, 11:33 PM

Vandal, that sounds like the proto run of the newer (x type) Starfires. This is not to be confused with Starfire L.

Dick · Jun 04 2005, 11:40 PM

interesting. i only threw an orion once so far, but i thought it was much more stable than a sidewinder. how would you say the numbers compare, dave?

davei · Jun 04 2005, 11:57 PM

Dr Evil, the numbers don't really compare. Other discs on that platform are the Firebird, Valkyrie, Viking, Dragon, and Archangel. The closest disc is probably the Viking, but the Orion has more carry.

hawkgammon · Jun 05 2005, 11:27 AM

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The Orion is on a Sidewinder platform.

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Other discs on that platform are the Firebird, Valkyrie, Viking, Dragon, and Archangel. The closest disc is probably the Viking, but the Orion has more carry.

Dave,

What's a platform?

A Firebird and an Archangel are at different ends of your stability range, so I'm lost here.

Thanks.

Jun 05 2005, 11:33 AM

hawk. i think he's referring to the mold or lip/plate of those discs.. the valkyrie,firebird,and Viking I know are part of the same family of drivers.. They are all 9 speed rated and have the same lip i've been told.
That's probably what he's referring too..
Kindof like the beast,orc,starfire are all 10 speed rated and all have huge rims.

-Scott LEwis

May 27 2005, 01:40 PM	#211
cbdiscpimp PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northville, Michigan Posts: 4,805	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? Was the KC ever available for hotstamp??? Other then the KC Logo.

May 27 2005, 02:07 PM	#212
underparmike PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 778	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? hey dave the Pro Aviars are available for custom stamps. We got 25 of them for the Louisiana States.

May 27 2005, 02:12 PM	#213
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! oh boy... too funny.... __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

May 27 2005, 03:04 PM	#214
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? mikey, cool, thanks. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 27 2005, 09:27 PM	#215
axis Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Roc City Posts: 50	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? Hi Dave, Thanks, we get the small bead DX Aviars stamped all the time, but do you still make the big bead DX we can stamp? Thanks, Axis

May 28 2005, 09:41 AM	#216
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? axis, no we don't. Sorry. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 02 2005, 05:10 PM	#217
cromwell Community Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 142	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? hey dave I have an old Cheetah2 kicking around, did some googling and found out they never went into full production so there weren't many of these made. Anything worth holding onto or worthless memoribilia for an idea that never came to fruition? thanks

Jun 02 2005, 08:17 PM	#218
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? cromwell, I don't know what the collector market values as collectable. It is a rare disc, and it won't be produced again. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 02 2005, 11:00 PM	#219
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Can we ever stamp big bead Aviars? The Cheetah II is selling for b/t $15 and $20. I've got two and will hold on to them.

Jun 02 2005, 11:08 PM	#220
Guest Posts: n/a	Firebird FL Dave, I was really excited when I saw a few weeks ago that you were making CFR Glow FL's. I've got a friend who loved his, but I wasn't willing to spend $50+ on ebay for a CE FL. Last week, I found a few CFR X-outs on ebay being sold by Mark from discgolfvalues. One of them was not a glow, but a very light pinkish-red that has black flecks in it. He claimed it was a rare colored CFR FL. I looked on the Innova website, and there is no mention of non-glow FL's. Do you know, how rare is this colored FL?

Jun 02 2005, 11:10 PM	#221
Guest Posts: n/a	Soft JK Aviars Sorry if this has been asked an answered, but I love the new soft JK Aviars I have picked up recently. Are these discs freaks, or can I expect to be able to get more? Either way I seem to be buying all of them I see.

Jun 03 2005, 08:28 AM	#222
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Firebird FL DGday, if Mark was talking about the particular color, it is definitely rare. If he was talking about any colored FL, it is not as rare, but still rare. Most everything Mark sells is rare to some degree or another, or hard to find. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 03 2005, 08:30 AM	#223
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Soft JK Aviars ajones, the new run of JKs are soft and very straight flying as opposed to all other runs which have been more low speed overstable. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 03 2005, 08:34 AM	#224
Plankeye PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,395	Re: Soft JK Aviars Dave, I got a 4x JK aviar that is orange from Rick Black this past weekend. This was the first time I ever saw an orange 4x aviar(only had seen white, blue, and yellow). Were there a lot of these produced? And if so why have I not seen any in the stores around here...

Jun 03 2005, 11:05 AM	#226
Dick PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out hunting nomads... Posts: 1,806	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! have you noticed the ms has a sharp edge flash to it? i didn't recall them having that, but i was checking one out last weekend and it seemed kind of sharp. i like more of a bead.

Jun 03 2005, 12:05 PM	#227
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Ask Dave D here william, I have not seen an Orange JK. Couldn't have been many of them. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 03 2005, 01:59 PM	#228
rickb PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC Posts: 735	Re: Ask Dave D here Dave the East coast warehouse had a number of orange 4X JK Aviars. It is trully a beautiful disc in both appearance and function. They seem to be a little bit softer than the other colors. Plank if you need more let me know as I still have a couple of dozen left.

Jun 03 2005, 02:20 PM	#229
oxalate Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookstown, IN Posts: 95	Re: Ask Dave D here Rick - you a PM.

Jun 04 2005, 12:53 AM	#230
axis Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Roc City Posts: 50	On the Orion what is G4? Hi Dave, My new Orions have G4 written on the bottom with the weight. Is this cryptic? It might be a trivia quetion one day. Thanks, Axis

Jun 04 2005, 07:44 AM	#231
mf100forever PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lulea Sweden Posts: 752	Re: On the Orion what is G4? All Orions are marked G4, but what does it mean, "´Generation 4" or..... __________________ (Disc)-gracefully yours, MF100forever # 3418 http://www.discgolfsweden.se/english/index.aspx

Jun 04 2005, 09:41 AM	#232
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: On the Orion what is G4? mf100, it did stand for generation 4, at least the 4 did. I don't remember if there was any significance to g other than as a letter. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2005, 09:43 AM	#233
Plankeye PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,395	Re: On the Orion what is G4? Dave, is the Orion the TLS that you were talking about last year?

Jun 04 2005, 02:13 PM	#234
Guest Posts: n/a	run of my starfire dave I have a starfire CFR from the 2003 ST patricks classic the abbreviations on the back are SX 167g do you know what run this might be?

Jun 04 2005, 11:30 PM	#235
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: On the Orion what is G4? it_, no the TLS is on a TL platform. The Orion is on a Sidewinder platform. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2005, 11:33 PM	#236
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: run of my starfire Vandal, that sounds like the proto run of the newer (x type) Starfires. This is not to be confused with Starfire L. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 04 2005, 11:40 PM	#237
Dick PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out hunting nomads... Posts: 1,806	Re: On the Orion what is G4? interesting. i only threw an orion once so far, but i thought it was much more stable than a sidewinder. how would you say the numbers compare, dave?

Jun 04 2005, 11:57 PM	#238
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: On the Orion what is G4? Dr Evil, the numbers don't really compare. Other discs on that platform are the Firebird, Valkyrie, Viking, Dragon, and Archangel. The closest disc is probably the Viking, but the Orion has more carry. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jun 05 2005, 11:33 AM	#240
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What\'s A Platform? hawk. i think he's referring to the mold or lip/plate of those discs.. the valkyrie,firebird,and Viking I know are part of the same family of drivers.. They are all 9 speed rated and have the same lip i've been told. That's probably what he's referring too.. Kindof like the beast,orc,starfire are all 10 speed rated and all have huge rims. -Scott LEwis

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