Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!!

[davei]

CE, you're going to have to ask the general discussion, as I don't know, sorry. I can tell you that the distinguishing features of the mold are apparent. The engraving is either Rancho or Ontario, and the nose is either sharper or rounder. The sharper nose is the more stable version. The Rancho is the newer version which can go with either nose.

[davei]

What you say is correct, but the count is still three. Original, Stable, and SL. You might be counting the Pro as another configuration, but it is SL.

[riverdog]

Morning Dave. As always, thanks for feeding our addiction. I asked a month or so ago about future availability of lighter weight Pro Starfires. Still curious about that, but with all the recent discussion of CFR SL's will there be 160-ish or lighter versions of the mold available in Champ Plastic any time soon?

[Dick]

thanks dave, i was counting the pros. my bad.

i can't wait to try an SL. the pro is great, but seems a little unpredictable in a headbreeze for me. i can't seem to judge how much it will flip.

im sure dave will know better than me, but i just ordered two cfr-sl's 165 gr. these were the lightest he had and he only had two.(mark molnar, discgolfvalues.com) these discs were from the golden state classic, so if you can find a source for those tourney stamped-discs you may be able to get one, whatever weight.
i imagine in the near future other tournaments will be feeding our "addiction" for premium plastic in the starfire-L mold....right dave?

[davei]

Riverdog, the lightest we produced in any numbers, was about 165gm. I did see some X-parts as low as 162. Next run we will attempt low sixties, it should be possible, but no guarantee.

[davei]

Mr. Toad, it should be happening now. My guess is it will take over for the glow Orc, as the most popular CFR disc.

[riverdog]

Danke, Dave.

[Dick]

glow orcs!!!

[Dick]

dave, question about cfr discs. other than the starfires, which you just said you are hoping to get into the low 60's, what other cfr discs will be available at 165 and below? many people want those and i like to have some light weight stuff for women and old men (like me!)

[riverdog]

......and me.

[riverdog]

.......and the little children. Got's to keep the younguns happy.

[davei]

DrEvil, most of the CFR discs are glow which makes them a little heavier. However, it is only the largest rim discs that can't get down very low in candy. Beast, Orc, Starfire, Monster. All others can get down into the low sixties, fifties, and many times forties.

[Dick]

it would be awesome if more of those could be available. i ordered 100 last year and asked for as many low weights as possible. the lowest i got was 165 , and only about 4-5 (1 banshee, 2 eagles, and a couple ce classic rocs). for potential sponsors, lighter weightsa are much better. many sponsors are beginners who can't begin to throw a 175 banshee or tbird....much less the vipers i got!!!

[davei]

DrEvil, we are putting the Orc in on Monday. I will make an effort to see how low I can go with it. It will be glow, so I don't know if I can get much below 165 gms. In regular candy (non glo), we can get down to about 158 gms. The Eagle has gone in too. I know we can get that down into the fifties in glo and forties in regular candy. The Valkyrie has a good shot at low sixties in glow.

[Dick]

i'd appreciate it if you could keep us posted as to which ones work out in the low 60's and 50's . i'd like to order stuff to keep the women and sponsors happy for my supertour event!

[hawkgammon]

So you won't be ordering the Vipers again this year? [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[quickdisc]

DrEvil, we are putting the Orc in on Monday. I will make an effort to see how low I can go with it. It will be glow, so I don't know if I can get much below 165 gms. In regular candy (non glo), we can get down to about 158 gms. The Eagle has gone in too. I know we can get that down into the fifties in glo and forties in regular candy. The Valkyrie has a good shot at low sixties in glow.

Cool !!!!! Hey Dave , How's it going ?
I'm sure your busy as heck with all the new stuff.

On the Glow Orc's.........what type of plastic can you run it in ? In Dx only ? Pro material ? Or even Candy / Champion edition material ?

Either way , I'll probably get them all. Just though I'd ask.

Thanks ,

Donny Olow

[davei]

Hi Donny. It will be the Champion Starfire. We may also do DX, but not Pro.

do you mean Champion Glow Orc?

[davei]

Rob and Donny, OOOOOps, yes, I meant CFR Orc.

[Dick]

cfr orc?

[atreau3]

CFR Glow Orc probably

[davei]

Yes, CFR glow Orc. We use those for INNColor discs.

[20460chase]

Hi Dave. I had a question about DX Beasts. I have thrown these forever, but picked up one this weekend that is really different. It is VERY stiff and has a "poppy top". This thing is mad overstable and I was wondering if this is a "new" DX mix. I ask because I have three types of DX Beasts. { All have the modern stamp } The normal DX , a flimsy DX that can almost be rolled up, and this new super stiff with the high dome. I want more of these poppy topped ones and hope they are a new mix, and more will be available. Thank you Sir.

Dave-I picked up a bottom stamp roc this weekend. It has the new innova logo and new roc lettering, and it is very domey and poppy. This is the most overstable roc I have ever thrown, it feels like KC mixed with Pro. Is this an inbetween-runs plastic or are there going to be many of these? Either way THANK YOU!

[davei]

Chase that is a newer mix, but we thought it was a little too much of a good thing. The latest mix is between the two.

[davei]

Rendroc, same answer as Chase.

............and a new collectible DX roc is born

[20460chase]

Chase that is a newer mix, but we thought it was a little too much of a good thing. The latest mix is between the two.

So these stiff Beasts are going to be hard to get stock of?