Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! - Page 35

Sep 16 2005, 01:37 AM

I see...

Is there ANY way I can order 10 WHITE P&A Aviars with the "bar" stamp? PLEASE???

Thanks in advance and sorry if Im annoying.

davei · Sep 16 2005, 08:18 AM

One armed boxer, like hotstamps the image will degrade over time with heavy use, however there may be a problem with the particular disc. You should direct this question toward Sam Ferrans at innovadiscs.com You are correct about the marking too. These images have a thickness, but it is not considered detectable as the surface is smooth, same witha marker.

davei · Sep 16 2005, 08:19 AM

Erron, yes I believe the CFR Wraith will be done the same way.

davei · Sep 16 2005, 08:26 AM

ill4mation, try zonedriven.

Sep 17 2005, 02:04 PM

Dave, Is the starfire going to be produced in champion plastic other than for CFR, and if so are you guys going to run any starfire "L"'s?

davei · Sep 17 2005, 07:32 PM

We are going to run both Starfires and Starfire Ls in candy and they will both remain on the candy fundraiser list. The price will drop however to $15.99 MSRP which should make them more accessible to more people.

Sep 17 2005, 08:05 PM

that's great, i have really started liking the Starfire-X. i also think that the increased sales generated by lowering the price of CFR's may actually increase the amount of funds raised to boost tournament payouts even if less $ is raised per disc sold...

did you ever consider giving say 25 cents of every sold champion disc to tournaments? it may sound a bit ridiculous given economic norms, but your cfr program flies in the face of cut-throat capitalism too (so i figured i'd ask).

or maybe you could make a deal with all disc manufacturers to do such a thing (although i think the politics of cooperating might make that a challenge...)

Innova Rocs

Sep 17 2005, 08:11 PM

A fine decision to lower the cfr prices. I bought some before despite the price but now I will buy even more. Many people who previously did not buy cfr discs will likely change their ways. I have heard many people say that certain discs were great discs but they would not pay $25 for them.

Sep 18 2005, 12:53 PM

Dave, after becoming slightly more enlightened about tax complexities -- i can see why my above suggestion isn't practical (not to mention the difficulty of determining which tournaments to support without creating bad feelings elsewhere).

The new approach to the CFR program should make an already great program even better since sales should increase quite a bit with the more universally accessible prices...

20460chase · Sep 19 2005, 12:10 PM

Quote:

We are going to run both Starfires and Starfire Ls in candy and they will both remain on the candy fundraiser list. The price will drop however to $15.99 MSRP which should make them more accessible to more people.

Hi Dave. Is this for all CFR or just a select few?

Sep 19 2005, 06:23 PM

Hey dave,
I just wanted to state that on your Innova Team Page you have Steve Brinster's Hometown as New Milford, NJ.. It is actually West Milford, NJ as I am from there.. On his Bio page you have it correct though.

Just something that has been bugging me for over a year now. Figured i'd tell ya

..

-Scott Lewis

P.s. Any chance of Running Champion Teebirds in Special Blend plastic???

ellswrth · Sep 19 2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

P.s. Any chance of Running Champion Teebirds in Special Blend plastic???

Yes Please!

davei · Sep 19 2005, 07:53 PM

chase, there will be more CFRs, but mostly candy glow that works best for INNColor.

davei · Sep 19 2005, 07:55 PM

Scott, thanks for the info. We have already run a few white SB TeeBirds, that Steve Wisecup will be testing this week.

davei · Sep 19 2005, 07:59 PM

Chase, sorry, I read your question incorrectily. Yes, we are changing the MSRP for all regular candy hotstamped CFRs to $15.99. SB Candy would be the same. Glow might be more. INNColor will be still around the $25.00 price.

esalazar · Sep 19 2005, 08:56 PM

Dave , has there been any testing on the special blend orc? what similarities are there between the sb and NS orcs etc. Any insight will be much appreciated. thanks, esalazar #21173

Sep 19 2005, 09:06 PM

I still have 2 NIghtshfit ORCS.. baby blue 174.. PM ME

-Scott Lewis

Btw. Can't wait to try the SB orcs and hopefully get a few SB teebirds..

davei · Sep 19 2005, 09:20 PM

esalazar. the "night shift" Orcs and the SB Orcs are made the same. We tested a few, and they seemed to be what we wanted.

widiscgolf · Sep 19 2005, 09:25 PM

Hey Dave thought about running some SB Firebirds in the FX mold at all??

Love the cfr Starfire-L and the Pro Wraith!! Keep up the Excellent work!!

Sep 19 2005, 09:29 PM

Hate to keep asking the same kind of question but, by all regular stamped candy cfr and special blends will be the new lower msrp, do you mean that the USDGC rocs will be cheaper this year? Please say yes. Even if its not true, just lie to me.

widiscgolf · Sep 19 2005, 11:07 PM

Don't you think your pushing it alittle too far there? The USDGC Roc are what brings the $$ to this event of events. This is probably one of the main reasons why it has grown each year. I could see them lowing it maybe say $5. We'll see.

Sep 19 2005, 11:40 PM

I would still buy more USDGC rocs even if they were 25 bucks like in previous years and I wouldnt have a problem with it. But I would buy them in greater numbers if they were cheaper. I can dream can't I?

widiscgolf · Sep 19 2005, 11:55 PM

Yes we can..... hehe

mf100forever · Sep 20 2005, 02:59 AM

Hi Dave,
there was a run of "Apples" in golf weights, can you remember how many, which weights and when?

davei · Sep 20 2005, 08:31 AM

Choke, the USDGC Roc program remains the same as last year.

davei · Sep 20 2005, 08:37 AM

mf100, no I don't remember the last run. Generally, when we ran Apples, we ran 160 ish for WFDF events, and close to 200 gms for golf. Probably more than 3 years ago. The mold is in poor shape.

ChunkyleeChong · Sep 20 2005, 09:15 AM

Hey Dave,Do you have an Idea on the run numbers for the SB Orc and the new CFR Worlds Wraith? Im also glad your keeping the USDGC program the same.This is a world class event and the discs are well worth the money.

davei · Sep 20 2005, 09:30 AM

CE, the initial runs were 2006 for the SB Orc and a little less for the Champion Wraith. Only 500 SB Orcs have been released so far. The full amount of Wraiths has been released for sale. Tulsa will send art for the next 500 Orcs when they're ready for them.

twoputtok · Sep 20 2005, 09:35 AM

And we shold be getting that(artwork) to you guys next week after we get back from Vegas.

esalazar · Sep 20 2005, 09:40 AM

There will be 2006 total sb orcs and they will be released 500 at a time!! Is this correct? how many different stamps will be available? I already bought 20 , just trying to figure out how many I will buy total!! thanx as always!!

Sep 16 2005, 01:37 AM	#1021
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! I see... Is there ANY way I can order 10 WHITE P&A Aviars with the "bar" stamp? PLEASE??? Thanks in advance and sorry if Im annoying.

Sep 16 2005, 08:18 AM	#1022
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! One armed boxer, like hotstamps the image will degrade over time with heavy use, however there may be a problem with the particular disc. You should direct this question toward Sam Ferrans at innovadiscs.com You are correct about the marking too. These images have a thickness, but it is not considered detectable as the surface is smooth, same witha marker. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 16 2005, 08:19 AM	#1023
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Erron, yes I believe the CFR Wraith will be done the same way. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 16 2005, 08:26 AM	#1024
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! ill4mation, try zonedriven. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 17 2005, 02:04 PM	#1025
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Dave, Is the starfire going to be produced in champion plastic other than for CFR, and if so are you guys going to run any starfire "L"'s?

Sep 17 2005, 07:32 PM	#1026
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! We are going to run both Starfires and Starfire Ls in candy and they will both remain on the candy fundraiser list. The price will drop however to $15.99 MSRP which should make them more accessible to more people. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 17 2005, 08:05 PM	#1027
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! that's great, i have really started liking the Starfire-X. i also think that the increased sales generated by lowering the price of CFR's may actually increase the amount of funds raised to boost tournament payouts even if less $ is raised per disc sold... did you ever consider giving say 25 cents of every sold champion disc to tournaments? it may sound a bit ridiculous given economic norms, but your cfr program flies in the face of cut-throat capitalism too (so i figured i'd ask). or maybe you could make a deal with all disc manufacturers to do such a thing (although i think the politics of cooperating might make that a challenge...) Innova Rocs

Sep 17 2005, 08:11 PM	#1028
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! A fine decision to lower the cfr prices. I bought some before despite the price but now I will buy even more. Many people who previously did not buy cfr discs will likely change their ways. I have heard many people say that certain discs were great discs but they would not pay $25 for them.

Sep 18 2005, 12:53 PM	#1029
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Dave, after becoming slightly more enlightened about tax complexities -- i can see why my above suggestion isn't practical (not to mention the difficulty of determining which tournaments to support without creating bad feelings elsewhere). The new approach to the CFR program should make an already great program even better since sales should increase quite a bit with the more universally accessible prices...

Sep 19 2005, 06:23 PM	#1031
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Hey dave, I just wanted to state that on your Innova Team Page you have Steve Brinster's Hometown as New Milford, NJ.. It is actually West Milford, NJ as I am from there.. On his Bio page you have it correct though. Just something that has been bugging me for over a year now. Figured i'd tell ya .. -Scott Lewis P.s. Any chance of Running Champion Teebirds in Special Blend plastic???

Sep 19 2005, 07:53 PM	#1033
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! chase, there will be more CFRs, but mostly candy glow that works best for INNColor. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 19 2005, 07:55 PM	#1034
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Scott, thanks for the info. We have already run a few white SB TeeBirds, that Steve Wisecup will be testing this week. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 19 2005, 07:59 PM	#1035
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Chase, sorry, I read your question incorrectily. Yes, we are changing the MSRP for all regular candy hotstamped CFRs to $15.99. SB Candy would be the same. Glow might be more. INNColor will be still around the $25.00 price. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 19 2005, 08:56 PM	#1036
esalazar Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: central texas Posts: 6,355	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Dave , has there been any testing on the special blend orc? what similarities are there between the sb and NS orcs etc. Any insight will be much appreciated. thanks, esalazar #21173 __________________ !!!!REST IN PEACE Ricky Wright !!

Sep 19 2005, 09:06 PM	#1037
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! I still have 2 NIghtshfit ORCS.. baby blue 174.. PM ME -Scott Lewis Btw. Can't wait to try the SB orcs and hopefully get a few SB teebirds..

Sep 19 2005, 09:20 PM	#1038
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! esalazar. the "night shift" Orcs and the SB Orcs are made the same. We tested a few, and they seemed to be what we wanted. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 19 2005, 09:25 PM	#1039
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Hey Dave thought about running some SB Firebirds in the FX mold at all?? Love the cfr Starfire-L and the Pro Wraith!! Keep up the Excellent work!! __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Sep 19 2005, 09:29 PM	#1040
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Hate to keep asking the same kind of question but, by all regular stamped candy cfr and special blends will be the new lower msrp, do you mean that the USDGC rocs will be cheaper this year? Please say yes. Even if its not true, just lie to me.

Sep 19 2005, 11:07 PM	#1041
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Don't you think your pushing it alittle too far there? The USDGC Roc are what brings the $$ to this event of events. This is probably one of the main reasons why it has grown each year. I could see them lowing it maybe say $5. We'll see. __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Sep 19 2005, 11:40 PM	#1042
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! I would still buy more USDGC rocs even if they were 25 bucks like in previous years and I wouldnt have a problem with it. But I would buy them in greater numbers if they were cheaper. I can dream can't I?

Sep 19 2005, 11:55 PM	#1043
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Yes we can..... hehe __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Sep 20 2005, 02:59 AM	#1044
mf100forever PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lulea Sweden Posts: 752	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Hi Dave, there was a run of "Apples" in golf weights, can you remember how many, which weights and when? __________________ (Disc)-gracefully yours, MF100forever # 3418 http://www.discgolfsweden.se/english/index.aspx

Sep 20 2005, 08:31 AM	#1045
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Choke, the USDGC Roc program remains the same as last year. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 20 2005, 08:37 AM	#1046
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! mf100, no I don't remember the last run. Generally, when we ran Apples, we ran 160 ish for WFDF events, and close to 200 gms for golf. Probably more than 3 years ago. The mold is in poor shape. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 20 2005, 09:15 AM	#1047
ChunkyleeChong Membership Expired Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: US Posts: 192	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! Hey Dave,Do you have an Idea on the run numbers for the SB Orc and the new CFR Worlds Wraith? Im also glad your keeping the USDGC program the same.This is a world class event and the discs are well worth the money.

Sep 20 2005, 09:30 AM	#1048
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! CE, the initial runs were 2006 for the SB Orc and a little less for the Champion Wraith. Only 500 SB Orcs have been released so far. The full amount of Wraiths has been released for sale. Tulsa will send art for the next 500 Orcs when they're ready for them. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Sep 20 2005, 09:35 AM	#1049
twoputtok PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa Ok. Posts: 10,360	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! And we shold be getting that(artwork) to you guys next week after we get back from Vegas.

Sep 20 2005, 09:40 AM	#1050
esalazar Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: central texas Posts: 6,355	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! There will be 2006 total sb orcs and they will be released 500 at a time!! Is this correct? how many different stamps will be available? I already bought 20 , just trying to figure out how many I will buy total!! thanx as always!! __________________ !!!!REST IN PEACE Ricky Wright !!

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