Old Aug 31 2005, 05:12 AM   #901
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When will we see the first CFR wraiths? I have a feeling that these are going to be hard to come by for a while, but this sounds like a disc that really sounds fun.

Although some dont like them and they are not too common, I always look forward to a hole where I can just tee off with 100%.

I currently use an orc on the long open holes.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 07:25 AM   #902
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Jaymo, we distributed for the Optimizer, but we didn't make it. It was a Canadian company, but I don't know if they are still around or not.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 07:40 AM   #903
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Chase, we were not directly responsible for the current Wham-0 molds, and have no agreement with them. As for joint ventures; we have had negotiations in the past with companies like Adidas and Nike. These were high volumn type discs, not golf discs, that we were not in a good position to do. We have had joint ventures with the Optimizer people, DGA and Wham-0 in the past, and there is nothing to prevent that in the future. A joint venture between disc golf and a big market player like Nike, Adidas, MacDonald's etc. could get a lot of exposure for disc golf. Just having an advertizer of that magnitude would be huge.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 07:44 AM   #904
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The CFR Wraiths have been produced. We are awaiting artwork at this time. That being said, I can't definitively answer, but I hope it is soon.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 08:29 AM   #905
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Ching make their discs in China.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 09:02 AM   #906
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Aren't the in-step discs also made in china?
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Old Aug 31 2005, 10:36 AM   #907
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I stand corrected about Ching. I don't know anything about in-step.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 03:24 PM   #908
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I found a pluto driver made by instep and it is made in china. I also found that it is also a P.O.S.
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Old Aug 31 2005, 04:44 PM   #909
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Dave, I want to thank you for making the Sidewinder. I'm a 40 year old player who started in 1980. This disc has the glide which allows me to compete with bigger arms. I don't have any problems controlling it either. I tell fellow golfers, that Dave designed this one just for me.

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Old Sep 01 2005, 10:16 AM   #910
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hello dave--is there a maximum rim width allowed by the pdga? if so, how much wider can the rim be than the wraith, illusion, quarter k, etc.? and also if so, how did the epic get by? maybe they only had to measure it in the narrowest [sic] part of the rim. thanks again
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Old Sep 01 2005, 12:35 PM   #911
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Steven, there is at present no restriction for the rim width. It was being discussed for the past year or so, but nothing has been done.
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Old Sep 01 2005, 02:34 PM   #912
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Hey Dave, I've been using the Bulldog for quite a while now and love it for putting. The only downside is that the stiffness sometimes causes a good bounce and roll on missed putts.

I know you're using the same plastic as the hydra and dragon for these things. Can you run them in a softer JK Aviar type plastic, or is the volume of the mold too big...

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Old Sep 01 2005, 04:33 PM   #913
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Donnie, it's a good idea, and I believe the results were poor when we tried it. It was too difficult to mold them. If we could mold them, I believe they would work well as putters.
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Old Sep 01 2005, 05:40 PM   #914
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Dave, does Innova carry certain models in a "women's classification"? I'm having trouble finding discs for my wife, and kind of wish you made a Pink Ch. Coyote, and other lightweight drivers, etc. Something the lent itself more towards women's interests for a way to bring more women into the sport possible... Also, maybe a web forum/ instruction spot for women as well? I am just rambling, but it might be a good marketing thing, maybe you've already addressed or decided against it.

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Old Sep 01 2005, 05:45 PM   #915
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Get her 150 class DX plastic. Not only is it cheap but it only gets easier and easier for her to throw. (as it beats up) I would say get her a 150 Archangle a 150 Roc and a 165-170 gram Aviar to start her out if you want Innova and let her throw those untill she can master them or untill they get to beat up. Then you can either buy new ones of those or start her on some different discs.
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Old Sep 01 2005, 05:59 PM   #916
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hey dave could you please tell me what the ratings for the road runner will be, like this 9,2
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Old Sep 01 2005, 09:04 PM   #917
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Ghost, we don't have a women's classification per se, but we do carry colors, weights, and disc types that women prefer. Generally, women seem to prefer lighter weights in drivers, and discs that are not overstable. 150 Class Ch. Valkyries or Sidewinders might be a good choice for her.
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Old Sep 01 2005, 09:07 PM   #918
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gunit, I believe the Roadrunner's numbers will be the same as the Sidewinder except the high speed turn will be one number higher. 9, 5, -4, 1.
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Old Sep 01 2005, 10:10 PM   #919
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Has the plastic for the dragon been changed? I have a translucent yellow, only slightly more opaque than my 1x beast, but someone else has a red one which is completely opaque. I was wondering if it's just the coloring or if the plastic itself has been changed.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 12:44 AM   #920
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Hi Dave,

Lavone Wolfe attended a local tourney in the Cinci area last weekend (Flying Pig Open) and was wearing a red Innova shirt that had a regular crew like collar but was made out of hi-tech material and looked really nice. Are those shirts available for purchase or are they only for Team Innova? (i am planning on attending am nationals next week and that would be a nice shirt to wear ... )
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Old Sep 02 2005, 01:47 AM   #921
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Re: rim width. It seems the PDGA shouldn't mess with it as long as they don't become over wt for safety concerns. Which should be set in stone. Still, be carefull when throwing as flat blade drivers are dangerous. One accident involving death or serious injury and the gov could at the very least impose a 150 class rule like Japan. Which would suck horribly.....
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Old Sep 02 2005, 07:16 AM   #922
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The plastic for the Dragon has not changed, but there have been some variations in softness and flight characteristic. The opacity variation is due to color and not plastic.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 07:31 AM   #923
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robj, it doesn't sound familiar. LaVonne might have sent us some shirts to have the Innova loga put on.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 08:46 AM   #924
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Old Sep 02 2005, 10:15 AM   #925
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Dave,
I really like the Sidewinder. I am finding some new distance.

2 things.
1. My mid-range has been the Cobra Classic. I like the flat (flat) profile and the glide. I know this is not a hot item, but are they still being made?
2. (for Dave and anyone else) Does anyone think the Coyote would be a good replacment for my CCs. I usually try to throw them flat and let the disc do a slow turn to the left to about 200'. (The Roc and Champion Cobra don't feel right in my hand and have more turn than I want.) The other thing I do with a CC is a anny to about 180'.

Thanks again for the SW.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 10:39 AM   #926
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I've thrown both Cobras and Coyotes just to learn how they fly. If you learned to drive well with a Sidewinder you can probably learn to approach with a Coyote. You won't have any problem throwing an anny with a Coyote. A Coyote will have more glide at the end of its flight, if thrown fairly flat, than a Cobra. At medium speeds a Coyote will be really honest with you about where you threw it.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 12:35 PM   #927
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ADiscand3Plate, we are not making Classic Cobras anymore. Our regular Cobra (Ontario) will continue to be in our line.
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Old Sep 02 2005, 02:19 PM   #928
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... hey Dave ... Greetings from Tulsa ... what year did you start the QJLS ? ... I know a guy who is trying to replace what he calls "a QJLS 1.1" ... I still have some stock that I had bought in Dec.02 (stamped for "Ice Bowl 2003") ... would those be 1.1 ? ...
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Old Sep 02 2005, 02:32 PM   #929
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I thought the QJLS was a Millenium disc, not an Innova disc...
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Old Sep 02 2005, 02:40 PM   #930
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... ah yes , grasshopper : so it is ... but the following comparisons apply ...
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... Ford / Lincoln
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