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there was approximately a %50 reject rate for candy San Marino Stingrays. Unacceptable.

so wouldnt that make the disc very rare? I bought one not a month ago. Champion San Marino Stingray for 12$ online. and i believe it was just one of many he had...

[davei]

It will be rare. No more to come. Not that many good ones left. There were a lot of rejects.

As far as I know there is no one else to ask about Millennium discs, so here goes. Are there any plans for making the Orion LS in champ grade plastic? I love the disc but it gets beat up super fast. I have had mine for a week and its already my most flippy disc.

Asimo, you may have stumbled upon your best roller disc

[discndat]

I haven't had that problem and I throw mine alot and have had it for a month.

[davei]

asimo, we are definitely thinking about it. From my point of view, the JLS and the OLS are the two Millenium discs that would be most worthy.

isnt the QJLS still made? thats just a Champion JLS is it not? I have one rioght next to me, but i couldnt tell ya how old it is.

The QJLS is a great disc. The Orion goes a tad farther for me, maybe a little more glide as well.

Hey Dave,

what are your top 10 favorite discs? Or which ten discs are you most proud of since you created the Eagle?

And is there one that was the biggest disappointment? Maybe one that just didn't turn out the way you expected or wanted?

I'm guessing Aero, Aviar, and Roc are on the list but what else?

Thanks and keep up the good work,

Doug

[esalazar]

dave , i am trying to figure out what run a ce valk of mine is. I got it at national dubs in 01 , not sure if it matters but its blue!! My guess would be 2nd run but i am no guru in establishing run ##s!!

Another CE ? I picked up a near new CE Leopard yesterday and was wondering what run it is. It is clear blue with a white hotstamp? any ideas?

If its FLAT as hell, its a second run, otherwise Im not good with runs of CE Valks either.

[20460chase]

dave , i am trying to figure out what run a ce valk of mine is. I got it at national dubs in 01 , not sure if it matters but its blue!! My guess would be 2nd run but i am no guru in establishing run ##s!!

Is it Blueberry? Or just a blue Valk?

[20460chase]

Another CE ? I picked up a near new CE Leopard yesterday and was wondering what run it is. It is clear blue with a white hotstamp? any ideas?

If its clear, its a later run. I think through the 3rd they were still opaque.

[quickdisc]

Glow Champion Orcs ?

[ChunkyleeChong]

Joe, there is a Whippet-X. The designation WX is for Whippet X only, not regular Whippets.

Is there both W and WX in champion plastic,if so what will the difference be between the two?

[quickdisc]

Are Glow Champion Orc's just fundraiser's ?

[quickdisc]

Is there both W and WX in champion plastic,if so what will the difference be between the two?

Whippet X is the new stuff. I like my Champion Whippet X , 161grams !!!!!

[ChunkyleeChong]

No Stability differences between the two?

[quickdisc]

No. Both are pretty overstable. I have both. Hardly any noticable difference.

[20460chase]

Are Glow Champion Orc's just fundraiser's ?

Yes for now. Arent all Champion Whippets WX? There was only run and they all say WX.

[Dick]

i think i remember dave saying they were.

[Boneman]

Dave, please suggest to the folks at Millenium they ought to order Quantum Orions (down to 160g!)! Yeah baby, these will rock!

PS. I got a 160 Sidewider, custom stamp from Zone Driven ... man ... what a great disc!

The very last run of CE was the clear stuff, all prior runs were opaque...so your leopard is of the last run.

On the '01 Dubs CE Valk look for flashing around the edge and visible concentric circles all over the top, these characteristics put it in the first to third run. Second runs are obvious because they were the super-overstable flat-tops. Also if its a pastel shade of blue than it's definately a fourth run (or "taffy" plastic). If you need any further help we will need to see a picture

The very last run of CE was the clear stuff, all prior runs were opaque.

Mostly, but not entirely, true: I've never seen or heard of clear CE discs in the retail channel prior to the final run, but a member of Team Champion hooked me up with a couple of clear second run 150-class FLs in 2001, at a time when distributors were still limited to 50 CE discs/model/order, and even then, most of the time, CE was only available on backorder.

[ChunkyleeChong]

How Overstable is a Champion Whippit compared to a Firebird or Monster.Is this the most overstable disc Innova makes?

More stable, yes... but also a much shorter distance disc, I consider the Champion Whippet to be a strictly midrange and/or cut roller disc

This question is for Mr. Dave.

I'm new to the sport & one of my first discs was a Moray.
I love the understableness of this disc and use it for right turning dogleg shots.
Mulitple contacts with trees ( ) is taking it's toll on the disc.

I see you don't make them anymore. Can you give me the "ratings" the disc had from the factory? (you know, speed/glide/turn/fade)
Also, if you had to recommend a replacement with an available disc, what would it be?
(p.s. I like the shallow rim on the moray)

Thanks

[quickdisc]

More stable, yes... but also a much shorter distance disc, I consider the Champion Whippet to be a strictly midrange and/or cut roller disc

The Champion Whippet's cousin is the Champion Gator.

Get those both in max weight and turnover is No longer an Issue.

If you still have an Issue , I have a Tissue. ( Austin Powers : Goldmember)

[ChunkyleeChong]

the discs distance really isnt an issue,it will be strictly a utility disc.I just need something for a hole shaped like a "7" where I can get a good hook to the left at the end RHBH. I have pretty good snap so this has been a problem lately on a few certain holes with the disc going to straight to long.

WOw!! Those must be some extremely valuable discs by now, thanks for the info, I never came in contact with any of 'em and had no idea as to their existence. I think for run designation guesses though you won't see too many more of them out there so it still should be safe to assume that a clear CE disc is of the last run? I guess it's also safe to assume that their light weight had to do with their translucency?