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Old Dec 06 2004, 07:05 PM   #1
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I was out playing yesterday and it was maybe 40 degrees but prolly around 35. It felt like my discs werent as stable as they were a a month or so ago when it was almost 60 degrees out.

Has anyone else noticed that there discs arent as overstable during the cold winter months??? And if so does anyone know WHY???
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Old Dec 06 2004, 08:45 PM   #2
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I've heard that leaving a disc in the heat lets the dome sink slightly, effectively tuning the disc and making it more stable. Maybe the opposite is true. I always thought a cold disc flew "newer". Maybe it's just 'cuz I'm cold, too, and I ain't powering it enough.
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Old Dec 06 2004, 09:15 PM   #3
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Nah! you're just gettin' bigger.
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Old Dec 06 2004, 10:33 PM   #4
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I've heard that leaving a disc in the heat lets the dome sink slightly, effectively tuning the disc and making it more stable. Maybe the opposite is true. I always thought a cold disc flew "newer". Maybe it's just 'cuz I'm cold, too, and I ain't powering it enough.
If it gets too cold and you have too many layers on, discs can behave newer b/c you can't/aren't getting enough on it. So, yeah I agree with frizgolf.
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Old Dec 07 2004, 08:12 PM   #5
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There are two factors at work: cold air usually is heavier and cold discs usually are stiffer. These two factors work in opposite directions but the heavy air usually wins.
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Old Dec 07 2004, 10:17 PM   #6
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There are two factors at work: cold air usually is heavier
A mole of air contains exactly 6.023 x 10^23 molecules, regardless of the temperature. As the temperature of the air increases, however, the air pressure, the volume occupied by the air, or both must increase according to the formula:

PV=nRT, where:

P = the air pressure, expressed in atmospheres;
V = the volume, expressed in liters;
n = the amount of gas present, expressed in moles;
R = the gas constant, expressed in liter atm. per mole Kelvin
T = the temperature, expressed in degress Kelvin.

So strictly speaking, cold air is denser than warm air, not heavier.
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Old Dec 07 2004, 10:51 PM   #7
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I was out playing yesterday and it was maybe 40 degrees but prolly around 35. It felt like my discs werent as stable as they were a a month or so ago when it was almost 60 degrees out.

Has anyone else noticed that there discs arent as overstable during the cold winter months??? And if so does anyone know WHY???

No Millz you are just gaining even more distance, cause you are such an amzing player, just wait tioll after winter, at this rate i tihnk you can hit 1200 ft

we need a thread just to talk to Millz on. its fun
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Old Dec 07 2004, 11:20 PM   #8
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Well then make an Ask DiscPimp thread
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Old Dec 07 2004, 11:46 PM   #9
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LOL dont you wish [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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There are two factors at work: cold air usually is heavier
A mole of air contains exactly 6.023 x 10^23 molecules, regardless of the temperature. As the temperature of the air increases, however, the air pressure, the volume occupied by the air, or both must increase according to the formula:

PV=nRT, where:

P = the air pressure, expressed in atmospheres;
V = the volume, expressed in liters;
n = the amount of gas present, expressed in moles;
R = the gas constant, expressed in liter atm. per mole Kelvin
T = the temperature, expressed in degress Kelvin.

So strictly speaking, cold air is denser than warm air, not heavier.
I've always said that Bruce is denser than cold air.
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Old Dec 14 2004, 10:56 AM   #11
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Last winter was my first as far as disc golfing goes and my game went to complete crap. This year I have made the transition much smoother, and it is all about experience. There are so many factors at work that may be to blame for strange disc flight it is mind boggling to try and pinpoint. The Michigan winter wind is the first that comes to mind...It blows so erratically that the only real way to play it is to throw heavy, stable, and smooth because it generally is not coming from a predictable direction and is never steady. What you feel on the teepad is almost certainly different from what is going on 300' away, and may be completely opposite.

Most other possibilities have to do with how you respond form-wise to variable conditions. Perhaps because poor footing and extra clothes make a smooth run-up near impossible, you are relying on a different component of your rip disproportionately, resulting in different flight. The possibilities are endless....
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Old Dec 14 2004, 03:03 PM   #12
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Or you could live in the South where we are currently going through week 1 of what usually works out to about 3 or 4 weeks total of sub-40° weather.
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Or you could live in the South where we are currently going through week 1 of what usually works out to about 3 or 4 weeks total of sub-40° weather.
**** you! We've had snow already, and are fortunate enough to have a 40° day for leagues!
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Old Dec 14 2004, 04:00 PM   #14
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Or you could live in the South where we are currently going through week 1 of what usually works out to about 3 or 4 weeks total of sub-40° weather.
I have some choice words for you but the monitors wont allow me to say them Thats why im going to Vegas and Scottsdale in feb and march
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