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Old Oct 13 2004, 03:50 PM   #31
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Yes, but as you said yourself, 803.00E says " If any point in dispute is not covered by the rules, the decision shall be made in accordance with fairness. Often a logical extension of the closest existing rule or the principles embodied in these rules will provide guidance for determining fairness. "

The logical extension of 801.03A would be in bold below

A. A maximum of 30 seconds is allowed to each player to make a throw after:
(1) the previous player has thrown; and,
(2) the player has taken a reasonable time to arrive at the disc and mark the lie; or in the case of teeing of, to arrive at the teeing area and,
(3) the playing area is clear and free of distractions
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Old Oct 13 2004, 03:55 PM   #32
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and then if you use that phrasing of the rule you have to define what a distraction is, and when can weather be used as a distraction.
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Old Oct 13 2004, 04:55 PM   #33
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Over the weekend, I emailed CH and asked him what he thought of the situation and I just got this:

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Hello Will,

Thirty (30) seconds is the amount of time one has from which to throw from the tee.

In regards to what constitutes a distraction...well that can easily vary from group to group (since in general, it is the group that would call someone for 30 seconds). I know that the weather will not be used as a distraction in my group. If a group mate disagrees, then we'll stand aside and call for an official.

I've never heard of a player using weather as a legitimate means of prolonging their shot preparation. I have seen countless players (all pros) try to stall while they waited for the wind to die down. Usually these stalling tactics disappear with the first 30 second call. (The first is only a warning.)

Since all players must deal with the same weather situations, it's simply not reasonable to allow it to interfere. In rainy conditions, most players do expand their definition of "reasonable time" as most players do like to wipe off their discs and tend to their umbrellas. Again, any group mate can speed up play (even in rainy conditions) by invoking the 30 second rule and/or calling for an official.

Take care,

Carlton Howard
PDGA Rules Committee Chairman
He sent it to other members of the rules committee also, so maybe there will be a new Q&A soon.
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