Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[shteev]

is there a date on a regular run release of the Katana?

[davei]

Originally Posted by shteev

is there a date on a regular run release of the Katana?

No date yet. The Pro will be the first release. The earliest release for the Pro would be mid December. If we can't make that, it would be some time after New Years.

[flynvegas]

Originally Posted by davei

Yes, a black Aviar P&A.

Dave,
Would you happen to know where I can find / buy one?

[davei]

Originally Posted by flynvegas

Dave,
Would you happen to know where I can find / buy one?

Sorry, no.

[tokyo]

Hi dave was wondering if you have run any makos that wernt first run yet and if there is a difference seeing sometimes first runs fly a bit different than regular run discs, cause im lovin the mako

[gokayaksteven]

how does more/less dome affect dx rocs?
thanks

[davei]

Originally Posted by tokyo

Hi dave was wondering if you have run any makos that wernt first run yet and if there is a difference seeing sometimes first runs fly a bit different than regular run discs, cause im lovin the mako

The Makos we are running now are the same material batch as the initial run, so they should have very few variations compared to runs with different material batches. But, yes, this is the second time we put the mold in.

[davei]

Originally Posted by gokayaksteven

how does more/less dome affect dx rocs?
thanks

DX is probably the easiest material to predict with respect to shape after molding. Generally, with DX you can expect a domier disc of the same mold to be a little less high speed stable, slightly slower, with slightly more glide.

[two5twosix9]

I am a big fan of the aero, have you ever made or thought about making champ glow aeros?

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I am a big fan of the aero, have you ever made or thought about making champ glow aeros?

If we haven't, we should have. Thanks for the suggestion.

[two5twosix9]

Originally Posted by davei

If we haven't, we should have. Thanks for the suggestion.

That would be sweet!

[dehaas]

Dave, I was sifting through some older discs of mine and ran across a star stamp spider I forgot I had. I remember hearing that these were some of the last CE discs made, and I've also heard these were champion. The one I have is a pearly baby blue, but my college roommate bought one at the same time that was a translucent purplish pink, also with the proto star stamp on it. I never thought these were CE discs, based on the CE discs that I'd run across at the time. The plastic seemed very similar to a champion pearly orc that I also had. Do you have any idea if these were in fact CE discs? I happened to get hooked on disc golf at that magical era of CE and 10x plastic...I just wish I knew enough at the time to amass a stockpile of it for later. Thanks.

[davei]

Originally Posted by dehaas

Dave, I was sifting through some older discs of mine and ran across a star stamp spider I forgot I had. I remember hearing that these were some of the last CE discs made, and I've also heard these were champion. The one I have is a pearly baby blue, but my college roommate bought one at the same time that was a translucent purplish pink, also with the proto star stamp on it. I never thought these were CE discs, based on the CE discs that I'd run across at the time. The plastic seemed very similar to a champion pearly orc that I also had. Do you have any idea if these were in fact CE discs? I happened to get hooked on disc golf at that magical era of CE and 10x plastic...I just wish I knew enough at the time to amass a stockpile of it for later. Thanks.

If they were CE, the Spiders would be rather stiff. Probably pearlescent Champion.

[Trickay]

Dave,

What are the main differences between the mako and coyote? I went out to see the flight differences and it really just seems that the champ. Plastic is the only thing making the coyote more stable, also my mako is marked cy is that just an error someone made?

Also has the champ. Classic Roc been decided upon yet?

[davei]

Originally Posted by Trickay

Dave,

What are the main differences between the mako and coyote? I went out to see the flight differences and it really just seems that the champ. Plastic is the only thing making the coyote more stable, also my mako is marked cy is that just an error someone made?

Also has the champ. Classic Roc been decided upon yet?

The Coyote and Mako are different molds. The Coyote comes from the Rancho mold and the Mako comes from the San Marino mold. The Coyote is a little more high speed stable, and a little more low speed over stable. The Coyote is better in the wind and the Mako is better in the woods. The Mako has a straighter finish than the Coyote. Plastic and different runs can make a difference, but all of the above will hold true on average.

If the engraving on your Mako says San Marino, it is a Mako and it was a marking error.

We haven't made any decisions regarding the Champion Classic Roc yet.

[dgdave]

Originally Posted by dehaas

Dave, I was sifting through some older discs of mine and ran across a star stamp spider I forgot I had. I remember hearing that these were some of the last CE discs made, and I've also heard these were champion. The one I have is a pearly baby blue, but my college roommate bought one at the same time that was a translucent purplish pink, also with the proto star stamp on it. I never thought these were CE discs, based on the CE discs that I'd run across at the time. The plastic seemed very similar to a champion pearly orc that I also had. Do you have any idea if these were in fact CE discs? I happened to get hooked on disc golf at that magical era of CE and 10x plastic...I just wish I knew enough at the time to amass a stockpile of it for later. Thanks.

It the plastic that was the "Pro" plastic between CE and Champion.

[two5twosix9]

I was on the site comparing the mako to other discs and I came across the bulldog. I haven't seen one inquite a while, are you still making them?

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I was on the site comparing the mako to other discs and I came across the bulldog. I haven't seen one inquite a while, are you still making them?

The Hydra and Bulldog are now basically the same. We dropped the Bulldog in favor of the Hydra.

[dehaas]

Originally Posted by dgdave

It the plastic that was the "Pro" plastic between CE and Champion.

Ok, so around that same timeframe the Beast and I believe the Monster came out and I remember seeing these labeled as Pro on the stamp. This in between plastic was the stuff referred to as Candy, right? I vaguely remember a few other discs labeled as pro on the stamp...the firebird and maybe a few others.

[veganray]

Gremlin, Leopard

[krazyeye]

Banshee, Cheetah and Gazelle had KC Pro.

[20460chase]

Firebird

[veganray]

KC Pro Teebird, JK Pro Valkyrie.

IMHO, that particular vintage (particularly the gummy variant) is the best plastic ever. I carry a gummy ProLine Leopard & a non-gummy ProLine Gremlin. I only have one gummy ProLine Gremlin, & it is really too unique to put into the rotation (151g w/ menacing Punisher-esque skull dye).

[dehaas]

Yeah, I still throw my pro line gremlin. I agree with the fondness of that era plastic, but then again that's what was available when I got addicted to the sport. Kind of how most people have an affinity to the music their parents listened to when they were kids...it's just what you grew up with.

[gippy]

That plastic is sweet I still have one of those spiders in my bag and 2 on the wall. And all of my fairway drivers are CE people look at me funny when I show them that my bag has 6-7 CEs in it and old Rocs but hey the CE was what i got to know when they came out so I still throw em. Champion plastic got to inconsistent for me takes alot of time to find todays champion that I like Won't order them online but a CE disc no questions about them

[20460chase]

As good as the plastic was there was still plenty of variations from run to run, and within them.

[two5twosix9]

I picked up a mako and it is marked CY as someone else had posted before. The plastic ismuch softer than usual star, is it the grippy blend? If so, do you plan to run them in the normal more stiff star?

I saw a hydra that was stamped with an R-pro stamp. The plastic was very odd, very stiff, do you know what the deal is with the plastic? Is it the floatable plastic mixed with R-pro? Can you run drivers in the plastic, how does it hold up? I would love to get a leopard, teebird, or wraith in this plastic if it is durable. Thanks.

[YourBOB]

I was wondering why Innova doesnt mark thier disc in the mold. It is so annoying to get an old dis, or one that has the marking gone.
I mean discraft marks thier disc on the inside rim, so why doesnt innova.
It sure would take the guessing game out of figuring out what disc you have.
Thanks

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

I picked up a mako and it is marked CY as someone else had posted before. The plastic ismuch softer than usual star, is it the grippy blend? If so, do you plan to run them in the normal more stiff star?

--We will continue with the grippier Star, but may do some Champion at some point. They will probably be stiffer.--

I saw a hydra that was stamped with an R-pro stamp. The plastic was very odd, very stiff, do you know what the deal is with the plastic? Is it the floatable plastic mixed with R-pro? Can you run drivers in the plastic, how does it hold up? I would love to get a leopard, teebird, or wraith in this plastic if it is durable. Thanks.

The Hydras are now made with R-Pro and do float. However, they should not have been stiffer than DX Hydras were. Yes, we do run drivers in that plastic. It is not as durable as regular driver Pro, but more durable than DX.

[davei]

Originally Posted by YourBOB

I was wondering why Innova doesnt mark thier disc in the mold. It is so annoying to get an old dis, or one that has the marking gone.
I mean discraft marks thier disc on the inside rim, so why doesnt innova.
It sure would take the guessing game out of figuring out what disc you have.
Thanks

We don't mark them in the tool because many parts are used with more than one model. We also use many of the parts to mold discs, of other names for other companies.