Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

Originally Posted by omegaputt

Dave,

Do you know how many of the Roc3 were made with the Start Stamp? Big Bird Stamp? Thanks

Sorry, I don't have a number for you. We mold and ship to both distribution warehouses. They are stamped separately on both coasts. I believe East coast stamped more as they have more customers. It was the largest release as almost everyone wanted them.

[Honor Guard]

dave,
as you would expect, the new flat champ roc 3's have been selling like there's no tomorrow. the secondary market has been making a killing on these. it's the same reason that the flat '04 and '05 glow rocs continue to rise in value; flat champ roc equals solid response!

hopefully the decision has already been made to run these roc 3's in glow plastic! the reception of those discs would clobber sales expectations!

i'll wager you a ham sandwich.

[FrisbeeFiend]

Hi Dave, can you please let me know how the Shark3 will compare to the DX Shark? Different mold, similar flight? Thanks for info.

[davei]

Originally Posted by FrisbeeFiend

Hi Dave, can you please let me know how the Shark3 will compare to the DX Shark? Different mold, similar flight? Thanks for info.

The Shark3 will be a lower profile Shark just like the Roc3 is a lower profile Roc. The flight will be very similar to any Shark except it will be a little faster. It will be made of the same clear Champion plastic as the Roc3.

[FrisbeeFiend]

Thanks Dave. Is there a release date for the Shark3?

Thanks

[davei]

Originally Posted by FrisbeeFiend

Thanks Dave. Is there a release date for the Shark3?

Thanks

Not yet, but probably around March of next year.

[TooNA]

I understand that plastic from discs is not suitable to make new discs, but can recycled discs be used to make something else - like a disc golf cart accessory perhaps? A drink holder or clipboard or something? Just wondering.

[keithjohnson]

Originally Posted by TooNA

I understand that plastic from discs is not suitable to make new discs, but can recycled discs be used to make something else - like a disc golf cart accessory perhaps? A drink holder or clipboard or something? Just wondering.

Echo discs - Innnova makes them.

[davei]

Originally Posted by TooNA

I understand that plastic from discs is not suitable to make new discs, but can recycled discs be used to make something else - like a disc golf cart accessory perhaps? A drink holder or clipboard or something? Just wondering.

The short answer is yes, discs can be recycled to make a lot of different plastic products. We use reject parts from molding to mold new Echo discs, but we wouldn't use old dirty discs, if that's what you're asking. Those could be used for some other project or product.

[gippy]

I 2nd the Glow RC3 thing! WOuld love to see some with Innova Bar Stamp!

[gippy]

Originally Posted by davei

Sorry, I don't have a number for you. We mold and ship to both distribution warehouses. They are stamped separately on both coasts. I believe East coast stamped more as they have more customers. It was the largest release as almost everyone wanted them.

Who would know and how would we th ePlayers find out?

[keltik]

Dave, I'm not sure if this has been asked already so I'll ask again. Have you guys thought about taking the DX Destroyer hot stamp and putting it on a teeshirt? I think that would be a really cool shirt. If you need someone to model this shirt as a beta test I wear a men's Large

[futurecollisions]

Dave,

The newest blizzard bosses I have been getting seem to have zero flashing, they are completely smooth everywhere, all of the edges are perfectly rounded. Not complaining, as they seem to fly pretty great. Has something changed?

Thanks

[davei]

Originally Posted by gippy

Who would know and how would we th ePlayers find out?

Call one the sales offices.

[davei]

Originally Posted by futurecollisions

Dave,

The newest blizzard bosses I have been getting seem to have zero flashing, they are completely smooth everywhere, all of the edges are perfectly rounded. Not complaining, as they seem to fly pretty great. Has something changed?

Thanks

The only thing is more experience. Higher weight Blizzard will also look generally better than lower weight Blizzards.

[two5twosix9]

What is thre difference between the Mcpro and the KC aviars?

[davei]

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

What is thre difference between the Mcpro and the KC aviars?

McPro is no bead putter mold and KC is Big Bead driver mold. KC is much more overstable. Same type material for both.

[Honor Guard]

dave, what is the official status of the vulcan-topped destroyers? have they finally stopped being manufactured?

not a pleasant surprise when buying destroyers from retailers and they show up with the vulcan top.

[davei]

Originally Posted by Honor Guard

dave, what is the official status of the vulcan-topped destroyers? have they finally stopped being manufactured?

not a pleasant surprise when buying destroyers from retailers and they show up with the vulcan top.

There were never any real Vulcan topped Destroyers. There were some Destroyers that had a weird cooling that may have looked something like a Vulcan, but the mold was the same. We have the process under much better control so it shouldn't happen to any extent in the future. The TeeDevil may appear to be a Vulcan topped Destroyer.

[davei]

Originally Posted by Honor Guard

dave, what is the official status of the vulcan-topped destroyers? have they finally stopped being manufactured?

not a pleasant surprise when buying destroyers from retailers and they show up with the vulcan top.

There were never any real Vulcan topped Destroyers. There were some Destroyers that had a weird cooling that may have looked something like a Vulcan, but the mold was the same. We have the process under much better control so it shouldn't happen to any extent in the future. The TeeDevil may appear to be a Vulcan topped Destroyer.

[Honor Guard]

cool. thanks for the quick reply!

[pterodactyl]

Originally Posted by davei

McPro is no bead putter mold and KC is Big Bead driver mold. KC is much more overstable. Same type material for both.

I threw the McPro this weekend and liked it very much.

[joegraham]

Hi Dave. Long time no see. My question is are the CFR Aviars from the 2001 US Masters a CE plastic or regular Champion? Thanks and thanks for finally making production Champ Rocs!

[davei]

Originally Posted by joegraham

Hi Dave. Long time no see. My question is are the CFR Aviars from the 2001 US Masters a CE plastic or regular Champion? Thanks and thanks for finally making production Champ Rocs!

Hi Joe. Nice to hear from you. I have no idea on your question unfortunately.
However, I don't remember ever doing the original CE with Aviars. As for the Production Champion Rocs; not quite. The Champion Roc3 is a slightly different beast in that it is considerably less domey than normal and not quite so overstable. It is still stable high speed, but not so overstable low speed. Personally, I like it better than the regular Champion Rancho Roc, because it is straighter.

[nnovia]

Hello Dave...so much info to learn about Rocs. I ca n't keep up, being new to Rocs! I do love my R-Pro Roc..its new. I liked it so much I got a new KC Roc. Completely different mold it seems? What mold is my R-Pro, and what mold is the KC...and what other Roc models share each?

[davei]

Originally Posted by nnovia

Hello Dave...so much info to learn about Rocs. I ca n't keep up, being new to Rocs! I do love my R-Pro Roc..its new. I liked it so much I got a new KC Roc. Completely different mold it seems? What mold is my R-Pro, and what mold is the KC...and what other Roc models share each?

The Roc has been around since 1985 with the Classic 175 sized model. The 180 San Marino model came out in 1988. The San Marino was repaired and retooled into the Ontario model around 1993. The Rancho Roc came out around 1999. The Remake of the San Marino came out around 2008. The Roc + came out around 2011, and finally the Roc3 is out now.

Rocs have been made in many different materials such as DX, R-Pro, R-Wood, CE, Super Roc, Pro, Champion and Star. Probably a few more that escape me right now. This adds up to a large number of variations.

Your R-Pro Roc is probably a Roc+.

Most of the differences in Rocs are materials they are molded in and slight nuances in the way they feel and fly. If you go to an online collectors, they would be happy to give you any info you might ever want. Most of the dates and stamps are lost to me.

[joegraham]

Thanks Dave. I am LOVING the new Roc 3. Threw a 176g yesterday at Golden Gate and didn't hit a tree and reached hole 17B through the trees downhill straight as an arrow! This is gonnna replace my 20th anny Sanny! Great grip, slightly flexy, smooth release and super straight. I did wipe the stamp though which I usually do for a basic stock stamp. This stamp is really minimal and I beg you to print more Big Birds. They look so cool. I would never wipe that one! (PS: also loving the Star Vulcan. May be my new distance roller)

[tafe]

Hi Dave!
Is there anyway that I can tell newer "stabilized" Pro Wraiths from the older ones? I have a few early runs around 167-69g and I love them for a control driver with easy distance. I've picked up some more in the past few years (some even lighter) and they seem to have very little glide. They fly similarly, but when it starts to flex (hyzer) out, they just drop instead of gliding. This has even happened with a 164. Is this due to "stabilization" or some other tweak?
Thanks.

[davei]

Originally Posted by tafe

Hi Dave!
Is there anyway that I can tell newer "stabilized" Pro Wraiths from the older ones? I have a few early runs around 167-69g and I love them for a control driver with easy distance. I've picked up some more in the past few years (some even lighter) and they seem to have very little glide. They fly similarly, but when it starts to flex (hyzer) out, they just drop instead of gliding. This has even happened with a 164. Is this due to "stabilization" or some other tweak?
Thanks.

Pro material is very finicky from batch to batch. I don't know of a consistent way to tell Pro stability just by looking at the shape. Generally though, the domier Pros have more glide and less low speed over-stability than the flatter ones. High speed stability is a lot trickier with Pro. Most of the time, a higher parting line height will dictate more high speed stabilty, all other factors held equal, which they may not be.

[tafe]

Originally Posted by davei

Pro material is very finicky from batch to batch. I don't know of a consistent way to tell Pro stability just by looking at the shape. Generally though, the domier Pros have more glide and less low speed over-stability than the flatter ones. High speed stability is a lot trickier with Pro. Most of the time, a higher parting line height will dictate more high speed stabilty, all other factors held equal, which they may not be.

Thanks. I'm hoping if I beat in my newest one it should fly a little better. It has a very beautiful stamp from a new sponsor. I'd hate to not be able to throw it.