Ask Dave D about Innova Here!!! - Page 45

Oct 18 2005, 02:09 PM

Dave, nice third round at the USDGC! Over all 4 rounds, looks like you averaged 991 rated disc golf...

how are your feet doing?

also, what disc was your workhorse?

davei · Oct 18 2005, 03:44 PM

piknik, yes, we plan on making most of the candy discs in SB. I have been testing a Starfire L in SB and like it very much.

davei · Oct 18 2005, 03:58 PM

robj, thanks, my putt didn't start working until the third round. My feet were fine thanks. My workhorse disc had to be the Champion Wraith thrown sidearm. I used it on 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 16, 17, 18 sidearm and 6, 9, 12, 13, 14 backhand. 1, 3, 15 were JK Aviar. 7 was Monster.

ellswrth · Oct 18 2005, 05:24 PM

Dave,

Do you get as much distance with your sidearm as you do with your backhand? Also, do you feel one is more accurate for you than the other? Just curious as to what your experiences are. I too like the Wraith for both backhand and forehand.

Matt

davei · Oct 18 2005, 06:17 PM

Matt, I get about 350 on a sidearm and about 400 on a backhand on a tee shot. If I tried to throw farther, my accuracy would suffer. Accuracy is about the same for both deliveries.

jaymo · Oct 19 2005, 01:47 PM

thanks dave, and good shotting at USDGC.

Crossing my fingers for those SB T's...

flynvegas · Oct 19 2005, 02:40 PM

Dave,
Are the winners of the CFR raffle posted some where? Thx

xterramatt · Oct 19 2005, 05:20 PM

http://www.innovadiscs.com/cfr/rewards.html

flynvegas · Oct 19 2005, 08:16 PM

Thx. I need to send my stack in for the next drawing.

ChrisWoj · Oct 20 2005, 05:09 PM

Question: What is the main difference in flight between Glow discs and regular? Specifically:

Glow Teebird v. Champion Teebird
Glow Eagle v. Champion Eagle

ActiveCurrent · Oct 20 2005, 05:20 PM

Dave,
Can Special Blend plastic be made to glo?

davei · Oct 20 2005, 10:04 PM

Chris, I don't know any difference personally, but I have heard that the glow is a little more stable.

davei · Oct 20 2005, 10:05 PM

Kdiddy, I don't think SB would glow very well. The color would mask it.

colin-evans · Oct 20 2005, 10:06 PM

Pleas move over to the new uneffected Ask Dave D. thread.

ce

DeafDGolfer · Oct 20 2005, 10:51 PM

hey Dave

who is the artist that designed 2006 SB rocs, the talon that i adore? hope he is John Dorn that he designed the 2005 SB rocs.

DeafDGolfer

johnr · Aug 12 2012, 07:46 AM

What year did the pro classic roc come out?

DrewNC · Sep 25 2012, 03:16 PM

Hey Dave, what can you tell about these SE Rocs? All others I have seem say Super Roc in the bar stamp, these do not. Thanks!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream

davei · Sep 26 2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewNC

Hey Dave, what can you tell about these SE Rocs? All others I have seem say Super Roc in the bar stamp, these do not. Thanks!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream

Contact Mark Molnar at Innova West and he may be able to help you with this question. I can't. Sorry.

20460chase · Sep 27 2012, 11:50 AM

Those are 1st Run Super Rocs. There is another with the more modern barstamp, than all the Worlds remakes, then some other remake with the 2nd Run stamp w a small Innova swoosh on the bottom.

Dave, how is it supposed "dead" stamps make it back to modern product?

davei · Sep 27 2012, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Those are 1st Run Super Rocs. There is another with the more modern barstamp, than all the Worlds remakes, then some other remake with the 2nd Run stamp w a small Innova swoosh on the bottom.

Dave, how is it supposed "dead" stamps make it back to modern product?

What is a dead stamp? No stamps are dead unless they are destroyed, but no discs are stamped with an old stamp to pass it as an old disc, if that is what you mean. Any time we use a retro stamp, we let any customers know exactly what it is.

20460chase · Sep 28 2012, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

What is a dead stamp? No stamps are dead unless they are destroyed, but no discs are stamped with an old stamp to pass it as an old disc, if that is what you mean. Any time we use a retro stamp, we let any customers know exactly what it is.

Have you considered devoting a part of your site to these re-released discs and images to avoid confusion? I know it sounds like work, but Im sure you would find that the attention it got would be worth doing it. People are very into anything Innova, vintage stamps, disc history, ect. Just because you tell the customer doesnt mean anyone else will. Case in point, the remake "Hands" stamped Aviar Im staring at...

joegraham · Oct 04 2012, 05:25 PM

Dave, what's this I hear about Paul McBeth signature CHAMP ROCs?!!! What tooling are they? Are they just USDGC CFRs or are they going to be production discs? I can't wait!

davei · Oct 09 2012, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joegraham

Dave, what's this I hear about Paul McBeth signature CHAMP ROCs?!!! What tooling are they? Are they just USDGC CFRs or are they going to be production discs? I can't wait!

These were a limited release Roc 3 mold. Although Paul's signature is on it, it may not be a Paul McBeth Roc if he is not completely happy with it. This mold will be released to the public in a few months. It is not as over stable as the regular Rancho and is a little flatter.

The USDGC Rocs are the regular Ranchos with a special material to make them fairly flat.

futurecollisions · Oct 09 2012, 08:38 PM

Dave,

Not sure if this has been brought up before, but I was wondering why the blizzards no longer have bubbles in the flight plate? For instance, the first run blizzard bosses are already highly sought after because the bubbles in the flight plate.

Thanks

davei · Oct 10 2012, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futurecollisions

Dave,

Not sure if this has been brought up before, but I was wondering why the blizzards no longer have bubbles in the flight plate? For instance, the first run blizzard bosses are already highly sought after because the bubbles in the flight plate.

Thanks

We can run more consistently with the bubbles in the rim. Why do people think bubbles in the flight plate are better?

futurecollisions · Oct 10 2012, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

We can run more consistently with the bubbles in the rim. Why do people think bubbles in the flight plate are better?

The flight is different, I have noticed this too. The new blizzard bosses with bubbles only in the rim seem to have a very sharp hyzer finish, while the first runs with bubbles in the flight plate have a more smooth turn and fade. I have seen players getting over 500ft with the first runs and struggle to get 450 with the new ones, which may be why so many players are seeking them out

cgkdisc · Oct 11 2012, 09:18 AM

In theory, wouldn't more bubbles in the middle (vs rim) mean a little more weight in the rim for a given total disc weight increasing a gyroscope effect?

Spinthrift · Oct 11 2012, 09:34 AM

I have to agree that the earlier Blizzards with bubbles in the flight plate -- particularly the early F2s -- give me more distance with better glide than the clear flightplate ones. I've done side-by-sides with F2 Bliz Wraiths, Bosses and Katanas vs. later, rim-only bubbles and for me the difference is clear. Another benefit is the more-solid rim F2s take hits a lot better and don't "shred" along the rim edge nearly as badly as the later ones.

20460chase · Oct 11 2012, 08:32 PM

I would also agree, especially in the case of the Boss.

All the bubble plate Destroyers were way overstable. Im still yet to flip one.

gvan · Oct 11 2012, 09:39 PM

I just think they look cooler...

...sort of like a blizzard...

Oct 18 2005, 02:09 PM	#1321
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Dave, nice third round at the USDGC! Over all 4 rounds, looks like you averaged 991 rated disc golf... how are your feet doing? also, what disc was your workhorse?

Oct 18 2005, 03:44 PM	#1322
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here piknik, yes, we plan on making most of the candy discs in SB. I have been testing a Starfire L in SB and like it very much. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Oct 18 2005, 03:58 PM	#1323
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here robj, thanks, my putt didn't start working until the third round. My feet were fine thanks. My workhorse disc had to be the Champion Wraith thrown sidearm. I used it on 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 16, 17, 18 sidearm and 6, 9, 12, 13, 14 backhand. 1, 3, 15 were JK Aviar. 7 was Monster. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Oct 18 2005, 05:24 PM	#1324
ellswrth PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 372	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Dave, Do you get as much distance with your sidearm as you do with your backhand? Also, do you feel one is more accurate for you than the other? Just curious as to what your experiences are. I too like the Wraith for both backhand and forehand. Matt

Oct 18 2005, 06:17 PM	#1325
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Matt, I get about 350 on a sidearm and about 400 on a backhand on a tee shot. If I tried to throw farther, my accuracy would suffer. Accuracy is about the same for both deliveries. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Oct 19 2005, 01:47 PM	#1326
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here thanks dave, and good shotting at USDGC. Crossing my fingers for those SB T's... __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Oct 19 2005, 02:40 PM	#1327
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Dave, Are the winners of the CFR raffle posted some where? Thx

Oct 19 2005, 05:20 PM	#1328
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here http://www.innovadiscs.com/cfr/rewards.html __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

Oct 19 2005, 08:16 PM	#1329
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Thx. I need to send my stack in for the next drawing.

Oct 20 2005, 05:09 PM	#1330
ChrisWoj PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,387	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Question: What is the main difference in flight between Glow discs and regular? Specifically: Glow Teebird v. Champion Teebird Glow Eagle v. Champion Eagle

Oct 20 2005, 05:20 PM	#1331
ActiveCurrent Membership Expired Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 154	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Dave, Can Special Blend plastic be made to glo?

Oct 20 2005, 10:04 PM	#1332
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Chris, I don't know any difference personally, but I have heard that the glow is a little more stable. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Oct 20 2005, 10:05 PM	#1333
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Kdiddy, I don't think SB would glow very well. The color would mask it. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Oct 20 2005, 10:06 PM	#1334
colin-evans Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 281	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here Pleas move over to the new uneffected Ask Dave D. thread. ce __________________ UP and at THEM

Oct 20 2005, 10:51 PM	#1335
DeafDGolfer Community Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In the Land of Chainbiters Posts: 126	Re: Ask Dave D about Innova here hey Dave who is the artist that designed 2006 SB rocs, the talon that i adore? hope he is John Dorn that he designed the 2005 SB rocs. DeafDGolfer

Aug 12 2012, 07:46 AM	#1336
johnr PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere on Fox Chase Posts: 43	What year did the pro classic roc come out?

Sep 25 2012, 03:16 PM	#1337
DrewNC PDGA Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1	Hey Dave, what can you tell about these SE Rocs? All others I have seem say Super Roc in the bar stamp, these do not. Thanks! http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyklo...in/photostream

Sep 27 2012, 11:50 AM	#1339
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Those are 1st Run Super Rocs. There is another with the more modern barstamp, than all the Worlds remakes, then some other remake with the 2nd Run stamp w a small Innova swoosh on the bottom. Dave, how is it supposed "dead" stamps make it back to modern product? __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Oct 04 2012, 05:25 PM	#1342
joegraham PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 63	Dave, what's this I hear about Paul McBeth signature CHAMP ROCs?!!! What tooling are they? Are they just USDGC CFRs or are they going to be production discs? I can't wait!

Oct 09 2012, 08:38 PM	#1344
futurecollisions PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: houston Posts: 234	Dave, Not sure if this has been brought up before, but I was wondering why the blizzards no longer have bubbles in the flight plate? For instance, the first run blizzard bosses are already highly sought after because the bubbles in the flight plate. Thanks

Oct 11 2012, 09:18 AM	#1347
cgkdisc PDGA Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 6,219	In theory, wouldn't more bubbles in the middle (vs rim) mean a little more weight in the rim for a given total disc weight increasing a gyroscope effect? __________________ Rater of the tossed arc.

Oct 11 2012, 09:34 AM	#1348
Spinthrift PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 45	I have to agree that the earlier Blizzards with bubbles in the flight plate -- particularly the early F2s -- give me more distance with better glide than the clear flightplate ones. I've done side-by-sides with F2 Bliz Wraiths, Bosses and Katanas vs. later, rim-only bubbles and for me the difference is clear. Another benefit is the more-solid rim F2s take hits a lot better and don't "shred" along the rim edge nearly as badly as the later ones.

Oct 11 2012, 08:32 PM	#1349
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	I would also agree, especially in the case of the Boss. All the bubble plate Destroyers were way overstable. Im still yet to flip one. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Oct 11 2012, 09:39 PM	#1350
gvan PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27	I just think they look cooler... ...sort of like a blizzard...

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