Official PDGA iPhone App

[tpozzy]

Originally Posted by RollerBob

Ok first off I love the app. I'm only here to report a bug. I entered different hole lengths for Dexter Disc Golf Course as I played the mixed pin settings. Then went to calculate the ratings and the course lengths screen popped up with the choice of the length closest to what we played. The main button length was fine but the button below with the local or alt length was garbled. It looks like two buttons superimposed over each other. I'm guessing it was suppose to be three buttons, main, alt (or whatever name it was suppose to display), and the local distance I just entered. I'm using an Iphone4 with the latest update of the app.1.0.3. Once again, I love the App. and look forward to the upgrades and improvements.

Hey, Roller Bob! Can't wait to play the Eugene Celebration again this year!

This is the first I've heard of this issue, but I'll review it with Mike (Dietrich, iPhone developer extraordinaire) and we'll see if we can reproduce it.

-Theo

[gvan]

Originally Posted by Hyzer Soze 47952

Twitter should be on that list as well as Facebook is soooooo 2010. Gplus maybe?

Saying something is soooooo some other time period is so some other time period...

[tpozzy]

We passed the 1,000 mark for paid copies of the PDGA iPhone app last week, and we're very appreciative of your support! The sales have exceeded our expectations, and are going to be key in convincing the decision makers that we should continue the investment in the app.

We are committed to providing updates and new features. Your input and feedback is being collected and is very helpful.

Thank you!

-The PDGA iPhone app dev team

[kilowan]

Having used the app for a few rounds now this what I have noticed. It is easy to use and understand, the ratings at the end are a cool way to see how you are doing, like being able to search previous rounds by location or person. But having used other scoring apps it would be helpful if it included the following also: include number of putts per hole, on courses that have already been played average score for the hole and lost score for the hole. On courses that have multiple tee pads the ability to have more then one hole number, i.e. a 9 hole course with two tee pads can be played as either a 9 or 18 hole round. The ability the have the rating be calculated in the player details screen for the rounds that have been played.

[lukasicek]

Hello,

i like this app and use it a lot

*it would be nice to have something international i am really missing ability to see hole lengths in meters and also enter length in meters to custom courses.
*also there might be option to enter pre-round score for players and see total of pre-round and current round score in scorecard view

also there are some points which were already posted and i see them as comfortable, but not necessary:

* have players management option in main menu
* have ability add new course from "My saved courses" view
* have ability to edit course without starting dummy round and then deleting it


keep up the good work

[davefrancis]

What has become of the score keeping app I saw in the magazine recently?

[cgkdisc]

Here's the thread on the PDGA app. It's been available for downloading from the Apple store: http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showt...t=35744&page=4

[tpozzy]

Thank you for the feedback! We will add your items to our feature "wish list". The one about supporting international standards for distance is a new one, and is important, as our target market is definitely global!

-Theo Pozzy

[juanbond]

I added a new Glenview, Illinois course to the directory 2 days ago, but I cannot yet see this course from the app. From the descriptions of how it works, I would have expected it to be more or less immediately usable in the app. Anyone have info on this?

[seewhere]

once it goes to the course direcotry it wont appear on the phone app unitl they do an update with iphone people. when i did the same thing it took a couple weeks.

[juanbond]

Originally Posted by seewhere

once it goes to the course direcotry it wont appear on the phone app unitl they do an update with iphone people. when i did the same thing it took a couple weeks.

Wow, really? Bad design there, PDGA... Almost no other mobile apps worth their weight in DX plastic have this sort of necessary data "update". This can be corrected. The question is, is this in the works for a future version?

[cgkdisc]

The direct data link to course updates will be developed following the unveiling of the new web site. That had been posted before.

[tpozzy]

Originally Posted by juanbond

Wow, really? Bad design there, PDGA... Almost no other mobile apps worth their weight in DX plastic have this sort of necessary data "update". This can be corrected. The question is, is this in the works for a future version?

It's not a design issue. The problem is that we're in the middle of a long project to update the main website. The new website will require an update to all of the mobile apps deployed. To avoid that having to be something that all app user had to do immediately after launch of the website, we decided to use an alternate site to host the mobile app data. It took a couple of weeks for us to streamline the update process, but now we're updating the course directory data weekly. Once we get to the new website, and everyone updates their app to the version that points to the new site, all course directory searches will be against the main website database, and there won't be any synchronization necessary.

We apologize for the inconvenience, but we think it was the best interim solution.

-Theo Pozzy

[Big E]

Theo,

I read through the last couple of pages and did not see any updates on when the Android users may be able to use this app. I use Easy Score Crad now but would like to be able to use a APP that is linked to the site and gives a round rating.

Thank you

Eric Teddy

[tpozzy]

Originally Posted by Big E

Theo,

I read through the last couple of pages and did not see any updates on when the Android users may be able to use this app. I use Easy Score Crad now but would like to be able to use a APP that is linked to the site and gives a round rating.

Thank you

Eric Teddy

Development on the Android version of the PDGA mobile app is under way. We're going to work hard on it over the next couple of months. We don't have a target date yet, but we're hoping it's close to the end of the year (maybe in time for Christmas!).

-Theo Pozzy

[rhett]

Originally Posted by tpozzy

Development on the Android version of the PDGA mobile app is under way. We're going to work hard on it over the next couple of months. We don't have a target date yet, but we're hoping it's close to the end of the year (maybe in time for Christmas!).

-Theo Pozzy

That's great news and at least one certain sale when it releases.

[Patrick P]

That's great the app is in the works for the Android. A lot of my friends that are using an electronic scorecard are all using ESC and I haven't come across anyone yet that is using the PDGA app, I know they're out there. I'll admit I would like to see the app first hand before I purchase it though. I'm very happy with Easy Scorecard (ESC) Pro and without a free trial version I'm not sure if I'll jump on board right away. I tried out ESC and the next day I purchased the Pro version. Me thinks a 10 day free trial might be a good idea for the Android version since mostly everyone is using ESC on it right now.

[cbooras]

Gentlemen, as much as I want to love this app it's lack of customization takes the love away.

I previously commented on how useful it would be to change the "number" of of a hole (like you can in Disc Golf Caddy) since some of the courses I play (like my home course, Ed Austin), use letters instead of numbers for alternate holes. We have 6 lettered alternates, 3 each front and back.

As another example of waning usefulness; Ed Austin has 24 holes, but we had to drop the 6 letter holes and go to 18 holes for Wed afternoon doubles due to lack of daylight. I could not change the course from 24 to 18 holes without creating a new course, but I tried to use the 24 hole course in my iPhone anyway.

We started on hole 10 and played to 18 at which point I tried to enter a 0 for skipped holes 19-24 (really, A-F), but that was a fail. I then tried to back up from 18 to get to 1 but it would not let me past 10. Grrrrr. We were using a paper scorecard too, so I just had to bail on using this app.

Speaking of doubles, it would be nice to have a doubles option for designating a round so I can add 2 players to each team instead of having to make up a single name for both players on the "card".

I know having a tournament mode is in the works but don't remember if having a doubles round option is on the radar as well.

Is there a timeline for the next version? I would like to think that making tweaks now to improve usability would take precedence over waiting for the new website to launch in order to tie in with the course map database.

For Ed Austin, the most popular course in Jacksonville, I can't really recommend this app to the homies due to the inability to customize hole and course information.

Thanks for listening to user feedback...Charlie b

[chainmeister]

I have not used the PDGA app yet as I have an android. I have used ESC. Frankly, I don't care about a score card. I'm old school and just remember my variance from 3 or I write it down if I am in a tournament. I really just want something to help me find courses when I am afield. I had the palm version of the course directory a few devices ago and still await the return of mobile course info. The ESC requires a download of their limited but growing list of courses. It is not the answer I seek. I hope the upcoming PDGA App for droid will do the simple thing my palm did in days of yore.

[Hyzer Soze 47952]

^^^ If all you want is the course directory then download the app called DG Courses... DG Caddy is a decent scorecard app as well. You can look up by zip or GPS.

[cbooras]

Chuck, Theo...are you guys even monitoring this forum anymore? Not trying to be a jerk, but I see no comments from either of you since Sept 24. Your lack of participation in the forum is not exactly a confidence builder for those who are thinking about dropping $4.99 on this App.

Some additional constructive feedback to help make this App more useful would include...

1. Capability to skip holes without having to enter a score (Disc Golf Caddy does this).

2. Capability to wrap around to Hole #1 from the final hole, even if I started on Hole #1 (in case I skipped some holes earlier due to crowds, etc).

3. Capability to add or delete players from a round while it is being played.

Any thoughts as to when the next version will hatch?

Thank you...Charlie b

[cgkdisc]

I'm not on the development team, just a beta tester when a new version comes out. No new version that I've heard. They may be working on the Android version but I really don't know.

Regarding your comments, remember that the app's first goal is to help with proper scoring when a course is played by PDGA rules. Skipping holes is not part of that, not that adding that feature wouldn't be helpful down the road. To me, it's not that big of a deal to put in "par" scores for skipped holes and put in the correct scores when they are played later.

From a practical standpoint, the more important priority now is to finally get the new website launched so we can move to significantly upgrade the richness of information in the course directory. That way several of the requested app enhancement can be more useful.

[cbooras]

Originally Posted by cgkdisc

I'm not on the development team, just a beta tester when a new version comes out. No new version that I've heard. They may be working on the Android version but I really don't know.

Regarding your comments, remember that the app's first goal is to help with proper scoring when a course is played by PDGA rules. Skipping holes is not part of that, not that adding that feature wouldn't be helpful down the road. To me, it's not that big of a deal to put in "par" scores for skipped holes and put in the correct scores when they are played later.

From a practical standpoint, the more important priority now is to finally get the new website launched so we can move to significantly upgrade the richness of information in the course directory. That way several of the requested app enhancement can be more useful.

Thanks for the feedback. True, it's not a big deal to add par for a hole which was temporarily skipped during a practice round (not a tournament of course). Ed Austin is a 24 hole course and our Wed afternoon Doubles league dropped to 21 holes as the days got shorter before dropping to 18 holes. Being able to skip holes without entering par is another reason why DG Caddy is (currently) my main score-keeping iPhone App for all rounds at this course.

I get that upgrading the course directory will have some benefits during road trips, but really I don't see that this is a necessary ingredient in the recipe for realizing the App's "first goal" as a score-keeper.

Right now, there are other much less expensive applications that do a better job and I was hoping that this App would be able to incorporate the best parts of the other applications and become the only App I would ever need to use.

For me, because my home course has a mix of letter and number holes, this App just sits on the back burner while I await (hopefully) the types of functional score-keeping enhancements that will allow me to use the App more regularly.

Thanks again for your quick reply, Chuck.

[Oruatyrim]

First, thanks for the app, can't wait for future developments, a LOT of good suggestions out there.

Don't know if anyone has reported it, I haven't seen anything in the thread, but since I updated to iOS 5 on the iPhone 4, the app keeps crashing whever I try to edit, delete, view full scorecOard (yes it's mispelled in the app), Calculate round rating, or email a round. Even if I touch 'cancel' it still crashes to my homescreen. I can touch the blue arrow to open up the menu but when I select something, it crashes to my homescreen.

Thanks for reading,

-John

[krupicka]

I will echo this for iOS5
Start App
View Previous Rounds
View All rounds
Touch blue right arrow for a complete round
Cancel (or any other choice)
*Crash*

[SlapHappy]

First time on the forums and app sounds great. Maybe now you guys can develop an android app for the android marketplace?

[tpozzy]

We are monitoring this thread - but it was a little less frequent since the initial traffic had died down.

We are going to look into the iOS 5 issues ASAP. My iPod touch 2nd gen wasn't compatible with the iOS 5, so I used it as an excuse to get a new one! :-)

We have added the ability to have a lot more flexibility on the scoring, including adding temp holes and skipping holes, to our feature list. It's an important issue, due to the wide variety of course layouts and variations used for both casual and competitive play.

We are also very close to our next update, which will include a few fixes (the keyboard stuck issue, in particular), and Facebook integration! We're hoping to get this version out to our beta test team in the next few days, and then out for distribution soon.

Thanks to all of you that have supported the development of the app. We have plans to continue development of new features and release of the Android version soon! We'll soon have a free version to entice others to use the app and join the PDGA, and the paid version will have some compelling new functionality next year.

-Theo and the dev team

[bchunk]

thanks for the update on ios5. another bug with ios5 has to do with pdga numbers. ever since upgrading pdga numbers for players added to my phone show up as negative numbers. for example my pdga # is 37700 but it now shows up as -27836. i've tried changing it and reinstalling, both to no avail.

thanks again for the app. i love using it.

[rhett]

Originally Posted by bchunk

ever since upgrading pdga numbers for players added to my phone show up as negative numbers. for example my pdga # is 37700 but it now shows up as -27836. i've tried changing it and reinstalling, both to no avail.

Gotta love those signed 16 bit integers.

[tpozzy]

Originally Posted by rhett

Gotta love those signed 16 bit integers.

Oh no - flashback to my early programming days in the late '70s, programming on the front panel of my 16-bit Altair 8080 kit! 32767+1 = -32768 (or in hex 7fff + 1 = 8000)! How geeky is that!

Seriously - Mike (Dietrich - PDGA iPhone App development lead) found the iOs 5 problem today and fixed it. We're going to get a version out to the testing team by this weekend that fixes the iOS 5 problems, the intermittent keyboard pop-up problem (we're hoping!) and adds a cool new feature to post your scorecard to your Facebook profile! Stay tuned...

-Theo, Mike and the dev/test team