Old Aug 18 2011, 08:23 PM   #12451
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Thanks for the info. So, a fast Archon maybe?
Yes, and a little more high speed stable in the wind.
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Old Aug 18 2011, 09:44 PM   #12452
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With mini Proto Star stamp I assume? Depending on the condition, eBay wise - probably $25-$30 tops.
New/Mint 50-65
Used, 25-35

So the above estimate is definitely accurate!

40 to 80 is crazy talk.
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Old Aug 19 2011, 10:10 AM   #12453
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Still too early for a release date. We have preliminary numbers at `12,5,-2,2,
which makes it sound like a Wahoo, but it is much more high speed stable than that. It is not as high speed stable as a Destroyer, but it is closer to a Destroyer than a Wahoo.

Champion TeeDevils should be available for fundraisers soon, but the release will be Star probably late this year.
Do you know the rim width and the inside height of the rim?
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Old Aug 19 2011, 10:58 AM   #12454
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Do you know the rim width and the inside height of the rim?
PDGA has it listed as 1.2 for rim depth and 2.4 for thickness. I didn't measure it.
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Old Aug 19 2011, 03:24 PM   #12455
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Dave,

Thanks for the info. What hole in the lineup were you trying to fill with this disc? What situations is this disc going to be useful in? Is it just a slightly less stable DS? I'm just wondering why you decided to release this particular mold.

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Old Aug 23 2011, 09:52 AM   #12456
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Dave,

Thanks for the info. What hole in the lineup were you trying to fill with this disc? What situations is this disc going to be useful in? Is it just a slightly less stable DS? I'm just wondering why you decided to release this particular mold.

Thanks!
well, i can say why im excited for it, not sure for others. i personally dont like the destroyer much brand new, i like it after it gets beat in a lil bit because it allows me to have a bit more control over the disc flight. so i would imagine this is more meant for the middle power player. where as the wahoo is lower power and the destroyer 'higher' power.
alot of the people who like the Westside Sword are probably really going to like the TeeDevil. Plus its a sweet name on a disc.
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Old Aug 23 2011, 12:23 PM   #12457
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well, i can say why im excited for it, not sure for others. i personally dont like the destroyer much brand new, i like it after it gets beat in a lil bit because it allows me to have a bit more control over the disc flight. so i would imagine this is more meant for the middle power player. where as the wahoo is lower power and the destroyer 'higher' power.
alot of the people who like the Westside Sword are probably really going to like the TeeDevil. Plus its a sweet name on a disc.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks.
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Old Aug 23 2011, 01:20 PM   #12458
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A question about "old mold" Champion Beasts. I found one of these through a trade with a friend, and loved the disc (all the way in to a deep pond). Now, I'm looking to replace it. I understand that the tooling for the beast was changed at some point in the past.

So, here we go with the question(s).

Are all "Barry Schultz" Beasts "new mold"?
Are "new mold" Beasts ever stamped without the Schultz signature nowadays? (i.e. are all non-Schultz stamped Champ Beast manufactured prior to him getting this signature disc?).
Were there non-Schultz beasts made from the "new mold" prior to his getting the signature disc?

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Old Aug 23 2011, 03:49 PM   #12459
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I'm pretty sure the 1x Barry Beasts were the old mold, and part of the first run of 2x Barry Beasts were old mold.
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Old Aug 23 2011, 04:52 PM   #12460
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pro line beast - old mold
pre barry champ beast - old mold
1x barry beast - old mold
2x barry beast - old mold first run, then switched to new mold ever since
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Old Aug 24 2011, 07:44 AM   #12461
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good answer^

I believe the store is open at proshop.innovadiscs.com
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Old Aug 24 2011, 09:32 AM   #12462
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just tried to add some nice test pro bb aviars... must have missed out on them, as I tried to check out and order was cancelled.

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Old Aug 25 2011, 01:18 PM   #12463
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Dave, I have to tell you how pleased I am to see the Factory Store open. Not only did they have the discs I wanted in a plastic that was 'never made', but the customer service is excellent.

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Old Aug 25 2011, 01:43 PM   #12464
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Just ordered 2 Pro Coupe's from the Factory Store. Would like to see the older stamps or something new.
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Old Sep 02 2011, 10:29 PM   #12465
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Those Champion Classic Hammers are a great approach and short drive disc. I hope you continue to make them available, at least as a limited release.
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Old Sep 03 2011, 05:31 AM   #12466
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Dave, the "Factory Store" Pro Coupe's have recieved a big bead (the originals are beadless). When did you tweak the mold, was it just for this run?
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Old Sep 03 2011, 09:45 PM   #12467
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Dave, the "Factory Store" Pro Coupe's have recieved a big bead (the originals are beadless). When did you tweak the mold, was it just for this run?
It's just a variation that should have more durability than the beadless kind. We can still make beadless too. Probably should have, but didn't think of that at the time.
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Old Sep 04 2011, 11:21 PM   #12468
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The original Coupe seemed to be made in a "candy" like plastic. Was it an experiment?
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Old Sep 05 2011, 01:25 PM   #12469
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The original Coupe seemed to be made in a "candy" like plastic. Was it an experiment?
It was the first R-Pro type plastic along with some of the red Hammers.
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Old Sep 06 2011, 03:04 PM   #12470
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Any chance that you've got some Star XDs coming to the factory store? My Star XD is my go to disc for anything under 200' in the woods and I NEED ANOTHER ONE!!!

Although, I'll probably buy 10 if you have them.
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Old Sep 07 2011, 04:06 AM   #12471
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Any chance that you've got some Star XDs coming to the factory store? My Star XD is my go to disc for anything under 200' in the woods and I NEED ANOTHER ONE!!!

Although, I'll probably buy 10 if you have them.
Definitely at some point in time along with Star Classic Rocs.
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Old Sep 07 2011, 09:06 PM   #12472
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any idea when destroyers will be run in their original dome again instead of the vulcan top?
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Old Sep 08 2011, 09:33 AM   #12473
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any idea when destroyers will be run in their original dome again instead of the vulcan top?
I got a star boss the other day that seemed to have the vulcan top too, very odd
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Old Sep 08 2011, 02:37 PM   #12474
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I got a star boss the other day that seemed to have the vulcan top too, very odd
Same top. The look is an artifact of the particular material we had at the time.
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Old Sep 08 2011, 04:29 PM   #12475
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Same top. The look is an artifact of the particular material we had at the time.
and what about the destroyer?
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Old Sep 08 2011, 08:05 PM   #12476
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and what about the destroyer?
Same thing. I don't know why you describe them as looking like Vulcans. To me, they look more like the Discmania discs.
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Old Sep 13 2011, 04:52 PM   #12477
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How happy are you that Congress recently passed the law that makes it possible for you to keep marking discs with expired patent numbers? Assuming your lawyers give you the go ahead soon, is there any chance we'll start seeing patent numbers reappearing on discs? In other words, do you have some old molds hidden in your sock drawer that haven't seen use lately because of the marking issue, and could be put back into service?
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Old Sep 14 2011, 01:27 PM   #12478
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Dave,

Is there any possibility of Innova running KC Aviars in the old mold with the patent number on it again? That would be great.
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Old Sep 14 2011, 08:24 PM   #12479
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Is there any possibility of Innova running KC Aviars in the old mold with the patent number on it again? That would be great.

No. We still use the old mold and it no longer has a number on it. We have taken the number off most all of the old molds.
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Old Sep 20 2011, 01:23 PM   #12480
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Dave,

The recent super-flat run of Firebirds in the Champion Glow plastic have been really popular in my area. Is there any chance we might see a run of flat-top X-Mold Monsters in the Champion Glow plastic?

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