Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[veearesix]

I recently got a champ glow disc that seems to be a Roc but is marked as "CO". Only stamp on it is a small Innova swoosh. Just curious as to why it was marked as CO.

[Dana]

Cobra.

[davei]

Originally Posted by Dana

Cobra.

Yep.

[NoLifeLeft]

Just wanted to add that I'm also excited to hear about the availability of new run Tanks. I'm not normally a fan of soft putters but I've been using the R-Pro Tanks anyway because that mold works so well for me.

Please keep them available.

[Pchitti]

Got a question about a CE Teebird T mold and verification.

It has a barstamp is milky white but does not say SE.

The stamp is a full size of this stamp. Sadly the stamp has been wiped.

[AWSmith]

Originally Posted by Pchitti

Got a question about a CE Teebird T mold and verification.

It has a barstamp is milky white but does not say SE.

The stamp is a full size of this stamp. Sadly the stamp has been wiped.

i believe that is just DX. my buddy had some archangels like that. not CE or SE for sure.

[AWSmith]

dave,

i see the new run tanks are San Marino mold. my Y2k is an Ontario. Whats the difference if any?

[davei]

Originally Posted by smyith

dave,

i see the new run tanks are San Marino mold. my Y2k is an Ontario. Whats the difference if any?

It's like the difference between Rocs; subtle, if you don't know what to look for. In the case of the Tanks; I haven't seen the difference, but the San Marinos should have more torque resistance at high speeds and in the wind.

[JenniferB]

I heard a rumor today that gazelles are going OOP. Will the DX gazelle continue to be standard production?

Might there be plans for champ whippets at the factory store this year?

Regarding the limited runs at the factory store, does each run result in the same or very similar weight for each disc, or will we be seeing the same limited run mold and plastic in a large variety of weights?

[davei]

Originally Posted by JenniferB

I heard a rumor today that gazelles are going OOP. Will the DX gazelle continue to be standard production?

Might there be plans for champ whippets at the factory store this year?

Regarding the limited runs at the factory store, does each run result in the same or very similar weight for each disc, or will we be seeing the same limited run mold and plastic in a large variety of weights?

The DX Gazelle will continue to be run in regular production. The limited runs do usually have limited weight ranges. Generally the weights run are the higher end such as 165gms +. However, if you are interested in particular weights, discs or plastic types, you can contact Eric at Innova West. He will be running the Factory Store.

Whippets will probably be run in Star as it is easier to get higher weights with Star than Champion in speed 6-8 drivers. If Eric knows before we run that customers want lower weights in Champion. We may be able to accommodate, depending on molding schedule. It doesn't hurt to ask.

[flynvegas]

Originally Posted by davei

Already back.

Dave,
You said the Coupe is available now, who's selling them?

[davei]

Originally Posted by flynvegas

Dave,
You said the Coupe is available now, who's selling them?

I meant they have already been run and are in the Factory Store's inventory.

[AWSmith]

Originally Posted by davei

However, if you are interested in particular weights, discs or plastic types, you can contact Eric at Innova West. He will be running the Factory Store.

may i have his contact info please?

[davei]

Originally Posted by smyith

may i have his contact info please?

1-800-408-8449

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by smyith

i believe that is just DX. my buddy had some archangels like that. not CE or SE for sure.

Maybe the disc in the picture but I think that the disc he is talking about is a Winnicrew/ Cam Todd Teebird. Check the collectors thread for more info.

[klittle08]

Dave,

I've seen a few of these "Test Configuration Valkyrie X's" that were made in CE plastic. Namely Mark has some still for sale on his site. Do you know how these things fly at all? Were they more of a Viking than a Valkyrie? Or were they notched like an Eagle-X?

Being a huge Valk thrower I've always wondered if they'd be worth picking up and if they'd glide/carry like other Valks or if it would be a bit of a dud.

[davei]

Originally Posted by klittle08

Dave,

I've seen a few of these "Test Configuration Valkyrie X's" that were made in CE plastic. Namely Mark has some still for sale on his site. Do you know how these things fly at all? Were they more of a Viking than a Valkyrie? Or were they notched like an Eagle-X?

Being a huge Valk thrower I've always wondered if they'd be worth picking up and if they'd glide/carry like other Valks or if it would be a bit of a dud.

Sorry, I don't really remember, but from the name, I could offer a possibility. The most likely is a Valkyrie with a more stable Firebird platform. That result would have a similar speed and real glide as a Valkyrie, but less apparent glide because it would be harder for it to flip into a good glide plane like discs with a little more turn. Apparent glide is also affected by how fast a disc wants to fade from its cruise speed. This disc would want to fade a little faster than a Valk, but not as fast as a FireB.

[JenniferB]

Dear Dave,

I was just wondering about the champ Rocs and the "plus" rim. Will you please tell me, is that a different mold, or is it just that the champ plastic settles differently when it comes out of the regular mold?

I just have to wonder since I have never seen any champ rocs without the "plus" rim.

Thanks!

[davei]

Originally Posted by JenniferB

Dear Dave,

I was just wondering about the champ Rocs and the "plus" rim. Will you please tell me, is that a different mold, or is it just that the champ plastic settles differently when it comes out of the regular mold?

I just have to wonder since I have never seen any champ rocs without the "plus" rim.

Thanks!

One part of the mold is different such that it makes the grip feel a little bigger. Sometimes the plastic does settle and give the impression of a slight + mold, but this is more than that.

[mf100forever]

Originally Posted by davei

Sorry, I don't really remember, but from the name, I could offer a possibility. The most likely is a Valkyrie with a more stable Firebird platform. That result would have a similar speed and real glide as a Valkyrie, but less apparent glide because it would be harder for it to flip into a good glide plane like discs with a little more turn. Apparent glide is also affected by how fast a disc wants to fade from its cruise speed. This disc would want to fade a little faster than a Valk, but not as fast as a FireB.

I am not Dave, but I have been comparing the side by side recently, the Viking and Valk looks pretty similar, the underside of the wing is both concave. The Valk X underside looks less concave, almost straight. So Valk top with a FB bottom?

[cbdiscpimp]

Dave,
Any chance of a Destroyer bottom with a Vulcan top? I LOVE the flight path of the Vulcan but the rim is just not deep enough. Im just hoping the Vulcan top would make it into a flippy Destroyer.

Thanks

[davei]

Originally Posted by cbdiscpimp

Dave,
Any chance of a Destroyer bottom with a Vulcan top? I LOVE the flight path of the Vulcan but the rim is just not deep enough. Im just hoping the Vulcan top would make it into a flippy Destroyer.

Thanks

I don't think that combination would produce a flippy Destroyer but we will be looking at it.

[Sadjo]

Dave...I'm very excited to learn that Champion Scorpions and Star Vipers will be available through the factory store. I live in SC and have been throwing Vipers and Scorpions since they they first came out. I'd love to pick up a couple of each. How can I buy some?

[davei]

Originally Posted by Sadjo

Dave...I'm very excited to learn that Champion Scorpions and Star Vipers will be available through the factory store. I live in SC and have been throwing Vipers and Scorpions since they they first came out. I'd love to pick up a couple of each. How can I buy some?

Call Eric at Innova West. He will be running the store when it opens.

[djb240z]

Hey Dave, will the Wahoo ever come in a different plastic besides r-pro? If so, what plastic? Thanks!

[davei]

Originally Posted by djb240z

Hey Dave, will the Wahoo ever come in a different plastic besides r-pro? If so, what plastic? Thanks!

The only two plastics the Wahoo can be made in are DX or R-Pro. All others would be too heavy. DX would tend to be stiff as a brick.

[mf100forever]

What is the url for the Factory store website?

[davei]

wrong info

[ChrisMacG]

Dave, What are the odds of seeing a Star plastic run of the XD this year?

[warlocks00]

Dave, Got a curiousity question. How long do you think you can keep coming out with a new disc every few months?

When I started playing DG...which is not that long ago in the grand sceme of Disc Golf(2004), we were lucky to see 1 new disc a year..if that. Now days it seems like something new is being released every few months. Which for sure pumps up disc sales, as everyone has got the to have "the latest and greatest". Even if they don't need or have the arm for it.