Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 410

davei · May 10 2011, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one19

.

As I am new to DG, I have experienced some confusion regarding the terms OVERstable, UNDERstable, and just plain STABLE.

Overstable seems to describe a RHBH throw finishing hard to the left.
Understable seems to describe the same throw creating a rightish turn or a potential turnover.

That leaves STABLE.

As a psychologist, STABLE in a person leads one to believe that variance is low, and extremes in behavior are not usually in evidence.

I originally thought a STABLE disc was one that flew basically STRAIGHT -
With little fade or variance one way or the other.

Yet it seems when people say a disc is STABLE, they mean OVERSTABLE.

Why don't they say OVERSTABLE??

Sorry for my ignorance, but it seems quite confusing.

.

Your understanding is correct. Stable means straight or resistance to turning over at high speeds. Usually, the discs that are resistant to turning over at high speeds also have a lot of high speed dive or fade. So, it is true that an Ape is stable at high speeds, even though it is overstable at low speeds.

warlocks00 · May 10 2011, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one19

.

As I am new to DG, I have experienced some confusion regarding the terms OVERstable, UNDERstable, and just plain STABLE.

Overstable seems to describe a RHBH throw finishing hard to the left.
Understable seems to describe the same throw creating a rightish turn or a potential turnover.

That leaves STABLE.

As a psychologist, STABLE in a person leads one to believe that variance is low, and extremes in behavior are not usually in evidence.

I originally thought a STABLE disc was one that flew basically STRAIGHT -
With little fade or variance one way or the other.

This is the way I was taught the terminology when I started playing DG 7 or so years ago....but lately it seems more and more people are using "Stable" when they are talking about "overstable" discs. So I am glad to see this in Dave's reply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Your understanding is correct. Stable means straight or resistance to turning over at high speeds.

davei · May 10 2011, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

Anyway to get a list of what the store will carry posted here so that i can set a part of my paycheck for "misc. expenses"...?

Here are some of the first offerings:

Star Viper, DX Classic Roc, Pro TB, Pro Sidewinder, Pro TL, DX Classic Ace, DX Classic Hammer, Pro Gazelle, Star Gazelle, Dx Raven, Star Raven, Ch Scorpion, Dx Python, Pro Coupe, Dx Condor, Dx Eagle L

And other stuff: S-Line PD Proto, SE Cheetah proto, SE Viking proto, various X outs etc.

Innova Apparel

More stuff will be added as molded or found.

AWSmith · May 10 2011, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Here are some of the first offerings:

Star Viper, DX Classic Roc, Pro TB, Pro Sidewinder, Pro TL, DX Classic Ace, DX Classic Hammer, Pro Gazelle, Star Gazelle, Dx Raven, Star Raven, Ch Scorpion, Dx Python, Pro Coupe, Dx Condor, Dx Eagle L

And other stuff: S-Line PD Proto, SE Cheetah proto, SE Viking proto, various X outs etc.

Innova Apparel

More stuff will be added as molded or found.

any chance for DX Tanks or snipers?

Cooper · May 10 2011, 05:59 PM

Dave,

Has there been any thought/is it possible to make a pig in a more durable plastic? I like the grip on the R-Pro but it gets tacoed a little too easily and I'm finding myself not wanting to throw it near roads.

502DG · May 10 2011, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Here are some of the first offerings:

Star Viper, DX Classic Roc, Pro TB, Pro Sidewinder, Pro TL, DX Classic Ace, DX Classic Hammer, Pro Gazelle, Star Gazelle, Dx Raven, Star Raven, Ch Scorpion, Dx Python, Pro Coupe, Dx Condor, Dx Eagle L

Are the Condors being molded for this or were they found in the factory?

About how many of each mold will be available when the store launches?

davei · May 10 2011, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smyith

any chance for DX Tanks or snipers?

yes

davei · May 10 2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

Dave,

Has there been any thought/is it possible to make a pig in a more durable plastic? I like the grip on the R-Pro but it gets tacoed a little too easily and I'm finding myself not wanting to throw it near roads.

Yes. The more durable blends tend to mold more poorly so we try to strike a balance between molding and durability.

davei · May 10 2011, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 502DG

Are the Condors being molded for this or were they found in the factory?

About how many of each mold will be available when the store launches?

The Condors are being molded for the store.

The number for each mold is relatively low and varies among models. Models that have been asked for in the past will be more readily available.

Furthur · May 11 2011, 10:10 AM

Any chance for Piranhas? I think you said that mold was broken at some point

.

rhett · May 11 2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

here are some of the first offerings:

Star viper

hellz yea!!! :d

AWSmith · May 11 2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smyith

any chance for DX Tanks or snipers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

yes

Awesome!!! when they come out ill be buying lots of tanks. and my buddy will be happy that his dwindling supply of snipers will be replenish-able somewhere in the future. you are truly going to make alot of people really happy!

AlmaWillie · May 11 2011, 09:19 PM

What is going on with the Jaguar? I saw about 4 or 5 months ago where I could buy them for around $8 each, but had one still. Now that I have lost mine, I can't find anyone who still has them for less than $25. I only use it for rollers, once in a great while, but am lost without it when I need it. Did Innova quit producing it? Is it going to be made again?

jksenior · May 12 2011, 10:25 AM

What's the best source for flight info about OOP discs like ace, python, coupe, hammer, etc.

davei · May 12 2011, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlmaWillie

What is going on with the Jaguar? I saw about 4 or 5 months ago where I could buy them for around $8 each, but had one still. Now that I have lost mine, I can't find anyone who still has them for less than $25. I only use it for rollers, once in a great while, but am lost without it when I need it. Did Innova quit producing it? Is it going to be made again?

We did take it out of regular production, but it will be available at the Factory Store at some point.

davei · May 12 2011, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jksenior

What's the best source for flight info about OOP discs like ace, python, coupe, hammer, etc.

The Factory Store will have the information. Right now, you can go to askdave@innovadiscs.com

Honor Guard · May 12 2011, 01:23 PM

dave, since the champion roc plus is now out can we soon expect a champ glow version in regular production? that would be a huge seller...HUGE!

Cooper · May 12 2011, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Yes. The more durable blends tend to mold more poorly so we try to strike a balance between molding and durability.

I guess more what I was getting at is is it possible to make the pig in star or champion or mix those plastics with the r-pro. I'd love to have something slicker too.

davei · May 12 2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honor Guard

dave, since the champion roc plus is now out can we soon expect a champ glow version in regular production? that would be a huge seller...HUGE!

Probably not. We usually put the Champion Glow in CFR.

davei · May 12 2011, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

I guess more what I was getting at is is it possible to make the pig in star or champion or mix those plastics with the r-pro. I'd love to have something slicker too.

We can't mix with R-Pro, but it might be possible to make the Pig in Star or Champion.

the_kid · May 12 2011, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhett

hellz yea!!! :d

You still throw that thing?

What about the RAM....???

LeftyGod · May 13 2011, 02:40 AM

Champion rams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ferrari17 · May 13 2011, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftyGod

Champion rams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I second that!!!

drdisc · May 13 2011, 11:08 PM

Bring back the Coupe.

flynvegas · May 13 2011, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdisc

Bring back the Coupe.

Coupe would be cool in Pro or R Pro.

LeftyGod · May 14 2011, 03:20 AM

I bought the caddypack a while back and have had several people ask me, that already have the same bag used, if the straps and chair would be sold by themselves.

any chance?

davei · May 14 2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftyGod

I bought the caddypack a while back and have had several people ask me, that already have the same bag used, if the straps and chair would be sold by themselves.

any chance?

Yes, later on this year. However, the bags had to be retrofitted to work with the system. In other words, you will be able to purchase each item separately, but only the new bags will be compatible with the Caddypack system. I jerryrigged the first proto with an old bag, but it's much better with the new bags.

davei · May 14 2011, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdisc

Bring back the Coupe.

Already back.

futurecollisions · May 14 2011, 02:32 PM

Dave,

What flight numbers would you give the CE QMS?

Thanks

davei · May 14 2011, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futurecollisions

Dave,

What flight numbers would you give the CE QMS?

Thanks

About 4,4,0,1 to 4,4,0,2

May 13 2011, 02:40 AM	#12292
LeftyGod PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TULSA Posts: 404	Champion rams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ I'd like to thank my sponsors.....Hole #8 and Hole #10 at Blackhawk. Last edited by LeftyGod; May 13 2011 at 02:41 AM. Reason: caps

May 13 2011, 11:08 PM	#12294
drdisc PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL. Posts: 344	Bring back the Coupe. __________________ DrDisc/033

May 14 2011, 03:20 AM	#12296
LeftyGod PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TULSA Posts: 404	I bought the caddypack a while back and have had several people ask me, that already have the same bag used, if the straps and chair would be sold by themselves. any chance? __________________ I'd like to thank my sponsors.....Hole #8 and Hole #10 at Blackhawk.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

May 10 2011, 05:59 PM	#12275
Cooper PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lawrence, KS Posts: 15	Dave, Has there been any thought/is it possible to make a pig in a more durable plastic? I like the grip on the R-Pro but it gets tacoed a little too easily and I'm finding myself not wanting to throw it near roads.

May 11 2011, 10:10 AM	#12280
Furthur PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 776	Any chance for Piranhas? I think you said that mold was broken at some point .

May 11 2011, 09:19 PM	#12283
AlmaWillie PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chester, AR Posts: 830	What is going on with the Jaguar? I saw about 4 or 5 months ago where I could buy them for around $8 each, but had one still. Now that I have lost mine, I can't find anyone who still has them for less than $25. I only use it for rollers, once in a great while, but am lost without it when I need it. Did Innova quit producing it? Is it going to be made again?

May 12 2011, 10:25 AM	#12284
jksenior PDGA Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 18	What's the best source for flight info about OOP discs like ace, python, coupe, hammer, etc.

May 12 2011, 01:23 PM	#12287
Honor Guard PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 51	dave, since the champion roc plus is now out can we soon expect a champ glow version in regular production? that would be a huge seller...HUGE!

May 14 2011, 02:32 PM	#12299
futurecollisions PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: houston Posts: 235	Dave, What flight numbers would you give the CE QMS? Thanks