Old Jan 10 2011, 08:51 PM   #12031
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I said stable Brad, not overstable...

and having a stable beast is nice because it hyzer-flips nicely and has lots of glide.


thats what a destroyer is for.
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Old Jan 11 2011, 08:03 AM   #12032
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Dark blue with some dome are the most stable

I know a top 25 ranked player in the world that swears by them...
the orange ones seem to be very stable as well, i dont use beasts for over-stability so i was trying to figure out which ones are less stable. i was throwing the yellow ones and they had a nice turn, but i cant find many of them.
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Old Jan 11 2011, 03:49 PM   #12033
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yeah when I say "stable" I mean it is straight...

if your looking for something understable just throw a lighter disc...

if that does not work try the orc...
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Old Jan 12 2011, 12:57 PM   #12034
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yeah when I say "stable" I mean it is straight...

if your looking for something understable just throw a lighter disc...

if that does not work try the orc...
Isn't the Orc More Stable? I have the Old Mold Beast that flies similar to the Orc til they get beat. I thought when they retooled the Beast they made it little understable than the Orc becasue these two where too close in flight. Correct me if I am wrong as I havent thrown the new mold beasts.

Bravo My Destroyers do not Hyzer flip like a Beast will. You must be snapping the hell out of them. Or using Beat Destroyers
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Old Jan 12 2011, 04:00 PM   #12035
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yeah when I say "stable" I mean it is straight...

if your looking for something understable just throw a lighter disc...

if that does not work try the orc...
nah i dont want to throw anything light, and as dave has said, light doesnt always mean less stable.

i was just looking for a normal star beast, the orange one was freakishly overstable for a beast.
i got some white ones and they are normal like the yellow ones. the plastic looks the same as well.
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Old Jan 12 2011, 09:53 PM   #12036
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Isn't the Orc More Stable? I have the Old Mold Beast that flies similar to the Orc til they get beat. I thought when they retooled the Beast they made it little understable than the Orc becasue these two where too close in flight. Correct me if I am wrong as I havent thrown the new mold beasts.

Bravo My Destroyers do not Hyzer flip like a Beast will. You must be snapping the hell out of them. Or using Beat Destroyers


my destroyers are my long balls. they imediately replaced my wraiths as such.
the old mold beasts i have in my bag have replaced the orcs altogeather.
the best orcs that i have thrown for consistancy and control were the tulsa worlds special blends.(multiple aces with different disc all were tulsa orcs.)
when i throw a beast i dont expect the disc to finish stable at all.
when i throw my destroyers they flip nicely and rarely flip understabel,however they finish very straight at the end of their flight.
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Old Jan 14 2011, 03:45 PM   #12037
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Hey Dave, will they ever make regular production Star Groove's? Thank's.
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Old Jan 16 2011, 09:59 PM   #12038
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Dave,

Love the fact the XD got made in champion plastic for the Asia Open.
Any chance that they will be put into production. Please Please Please make this happen and the Star XDs
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Old Jan 17 2011, 01:15 AM   #12039
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Just check to see if your still doing the CFR drawings? Still showing November as the last month on your website.

Thanks in advanced!!

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Old Jan 17 2011, 05:53 AM   #12040
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Maybe, but they're not on the schedule right now.
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Old Jan 17 2011, 05:55 AM   #12041
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Love the fact the XD got made in champion plastic for the Asia Open.
Any chance that they will be put into production. Please Please Please make this happen and the Star XDs
Probably not regular production, but we will run all plastics from time to time and will have them available through channels other than CFR at some point.
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Old Jan 17 2011, 05:57 AM   #12042
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Just check to see if your still doing the CFR drawings? Still showing November as the last month on your website.

Thanks in advanced!!

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Far as I know we are. I will check it out this morning. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old Jan 17 2011, 09:17 AM   #12043
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Probably not regular production, but we will run all plastics from time to time and will have them available through channels other than CFR at some point.
Thanks Dave. I won't be trading or selling my Champ XDs then LOL.
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Old Jan 17 2011, 11:26 AM   #12044
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Just check to see if your still doing the CFR drawings? Still showing November as the last month on your website.

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The CFR winners have been picked and notified for December and January. The web site had not been updated, but will be soon.
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Old Jan 18 2011, 08:09 AM   #12045
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If anyone is looking for star grooves i have some, they are echo star, send me a PM
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Old Jan 20 2011, 04:47 PM   #12046
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the 2005 usdgc ken climo 4x glow rocs are amazingly durable, predictable flying discs, and the secondary market has steadily started going through the roof, pricewise.

my question is what do you remember about the manufacturing, comments, etc about the disc when it came out? i have also heard that the glow champion plastic used for them was in fact CE plastic - is that true?

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Old Jan 20 2011, 06:43 PM   #12047
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Doubtful... Glow Champion does age like CE though, and is usually slightly more overstable for some reason. Throwers I have talked with have said the "Battle Roc" is actually a better Roc than the original '01s, or even a poor mans '01. Not anymore really, as the Battles are getting very pricey.
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Old Jan 20 2011, 06:57 PM   #12048
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the 2005 usdgc ken climo 4x glow rocs are amazingly durable, predictable flying discs, and the secondary market has steadily started going through the roof, pricewise.

my question is what do you remember about the manufacturing, comments, etc about the disc when it came out? i have also heard that the glow champion plastic used for them was in fact CE plastic - is that true?

thank you for your time.


Sorry, I don't remember what exactly was the difference, if any. I have heard quite a few times about glow Champion being generally better than regular Champion.
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Old Jan 21 2011, 12:44 AM   #12049
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Dave, I am a Pig lover. IMO I think it is the best headwind putter out there. Will they ever make a Champ Pig? If so, when? Thanks!
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I can't say right now, but I suspect we can't make them light enough in Champion. If we can, we probably will at some point.
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Old Jan 21 2011, 11:18 AM   #12051
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I can't say right now, but I suspect we can't make them light enough in Champion. If we can, we probably will at some point.

Would the same problems apply for Star / Echo Star?
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Old Jan 21 2011, 11:52 AM   #12052
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Would the same problems apply for Star / Echo Star?
Yes. Specific gravity for those materials is much higher than for R-Pro or DX. The same volume of plastic is heavier for the high tech plastics.
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Old Jan 22 2011, 06:52 PM   #12053
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A friend was asking Why the Teerex isn't made in Pro Plastic?
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Old Jan 22 2011, 11:14 PM   #12054
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Dave,

I was throwing the Wedge today and was thoroughly surprised by the disc. I really enjoyed the flight, however I don't want to invest in the DX for durability reasons. The star first run stamps are pretty limited and retailers have marked them up. Is there a chance we will see the Wedge run in star with the stock stamp? The disc is very versatile and I would really like to have one in my bag for utility and tough "out" shots.

Also, I really like the feel of the new Tanks. Hope to see more of these.

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Old Jan 23 2011, 09:20 AM   #12055
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Is the DX TeeRex stamp, with graphic of a T. Rex, ever used for other plastics? Why not?
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A friend was asking Why the Teerex isn't made in Pro Plastic?
Not sure right now, but probably because our supply of Pro plastic is iffy at times. Sometimes we have a lot, and sometimes we can't get it. A couple of years ago we had to restrict the models to a few.
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Old Jan 23 2011, 10:06 AM   #12057
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Is the DX TeeRex stamp, with graphic of a T. Rex, ever used for other plastics? Why not?
We only use images for DX as a way to differentiate for normal stamped stock.
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Old Jan 23 2011, 12:28 PM   #12058
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i also wondered why there wasn't a champion teerex? i know there is the teerex-x, but quite the same thing.
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Old Jan 24 2011, 07:27 AM   #12059
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i also wondered why there wasn't a champion teerex? i know there is the teerex-x, but quite the same thing.
That's a good question. Don't know why we never got around to running a Champion TeeRex. We probably should have started with Champion. Maybe it was in CFR, but even then, it should have been released later.
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