Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Speaking of EXPs, I have some that are blank with a flat wing, not the typical Banshee/EXP are these what your talking about Dave? Were those ever released?

The EXP did have a relatively flat wing. The Banshee has the concavity.

[davei]

Originally Posted by sandalbagger

My only question is, why don't you guys use the refractive, oil slick, glitter stamps as much as you guys used to? You used to be able to get all kinds of discs with cool textured hot stamps. Anymore, it just seems like they are all 1-color. Are the other foils that much more expensive, or is the supply dwindling? Just curious because we used to get all kinds of cool stamps when we ordered our discs for events, now everything we get it 1-color. I miss the oil slick stamps, glitter stamps, etc. I had to specifically ask for the refractive stamps on an order I placed this year. Just curious? Guess I'm still stuck in the 90's.

Also....still waiting for some old mold hammers

I think that stuff was somewhat problematic for rejects.

[zaschenbach1]

Hey Dave,
Are you going to be running the 11x champ firebird mold again anytime soon?

[gippy]

Originally Posted by zaschenbach1

Hey Dave,
Are you going to be running the 11x champ firebird mold again anytime soon?

https://www.discgolfvalues.com/store...&productId=337

The Glows that are out now are close to an 11X too.

It's not the mold it's the plastic they get.

[rickm]

theres a new core on the new glow fbs. i compared it to the old 11x's . while the mold hasnt changed per say,i agree that its the plastic. btw,the asia open glow fbs are beefy. more so than an 11x.

[20460chase]

Originally Posted by davei

The EXP did have a relatively flat wing. The Banshee has the concavity.

I mean flat. Like a TL. Im not sure they were released or not.

[drdeeznutz]

this might be in this extensive thread already but here goes... I just bought 2 used 11X KC Champion Teebirds (both w/ CA not CAL lettering) but they are definitely different discs. I'm assuming one is a T mold and one is a TL mold? Basically just wondering the differences in all the 11X Teebirds..?

[lux4prez]

That could be a thread in itself.

[futurecollisions]

Originally Posted by drdeeznutz

this might be in this extensive thread already but here goes... I just bought 2 used 11X KC Champion Teebirds (both w/ CA not CAL lettering) but they are definitely different discs. I'm assuming one is a T mold and one is a TL mold? Basically just wondering the differences in all the 11X Teebirds..?

I have noticed this, I have a few of these myself. There is also the KC pro stamped 11x teebirds as well. In order of stability, from most stable to least it seems to go KC Pro 11x, CAL 11x, and then CA 11x.

[throwinROCS]

Dave,

Can you tell us more about the edge?

[drdeeznutz]

I'm sure the one that looks like a TL rim is less stable but the other one is flat with a concave rim not flat like the other... Just wondering if I'm correct in assuming the one is actually a TL mold rim?

[Peeete]

Good morning, Dave.

I have a few old Eagles that I acquired a few years back as SE plastic. Two out of the three have SE written on the back, and the plastic seems to have more of a Pro/Star sheen to them. Is there a way to verify that they are SE? I have attached (hopefully) pics of the front and back of one of the discs in question.

Thank you for your time,
Pete

[davei]

Originally Posted by throwinROCS

Dave,

Can you tell us more about the edge?

The Edge is sort of like a cross between an XD and a Stingray. In heavier weights, it is useful for medium range turn over shots that need almost no return. It is useful for rolling up to 400 ft. It is a straight putter and approach with low glide and very little low speed fade. At lighter EDGE weights, (130 gms), it has fair glide and is an easy disc to throw for younger players with less skills and smaller hands.

[davei]

Originally Posted by Peeete

Good morning, Dave.

I have a few old Eagles that I acquired a few years back as SE plastic. Two out of the three have SE written on the back, and the plastic seems to have more of a Pro/Star sheen to them. Is there a way to verify that they are SE? I have attached (hopefully) pics of the front and back of one of the discs in question.

Thank you for your time,
Pete

Sorry, I don't know how you can verify.

[Saucer Tosser]

I recently acquired a Champion Teebird L and a Champion Teebird Plus. What's the difference?

[davei]

Originally Posted by Saucer Tosser

I recently acquired a Champion Teebird L and a Champion Teebird Plus. What's the difference?

The TL is a relatively straight flyer with a little high speed turn that has been around for many years. The Tee + is relatively new and flies just like a regular TeeBird, but feels a little beefier in the hand, and looks a little better in Champion as we don't have to add as much weighting agent to make it 175 gms.

[havasuDG]

I heard a rumor that the TeeRex was being discontinued. Is there any truth to this?

[davei]

Originally Posted by havasuDG

I heard a rumor that the TeeRex was being discontinued. Is there any truth to this?

No.

[tafe]

Dave,
What is your philosophy regarding carrying a variety of different discs for various shots versus carrying copies of certain discs in varying degrees of plastic and beatness? I find that my bag has quite a wide variety of discs, with relatively few copies among them. I guess that I'm more comfortable knowing that I don't have to season a disc "just right". Therefore I have adapted my selection to accomadate this. I realize golf is more mental than physical, and what makes you comfortable, go with. Just was curious about your thoughts.
BTW, the ONE IRREPLACABLE disc in my quiver is the CE Aviar/1st run Q Omega. The one do-anything disc that garnered me my first two tourney aces, almost three years apart to the day, with the SAME DISC!!!

[davei]

Originally Posted by tafe

Dave,
What is your philosophy regarding carrying a variety of different discs for various shots versus carrying copies of certain discs in varying degrees of plastic and beatness? I find that my bag has quite a wide variety of discs, with relatively few copies among them. I guess that I'm more comfortable knowing that I don't have to season a disc "just right". Therefore I have adapted my selection to accomadate this. I realize golf is more mental than physical, and what makes you comfortable, go with. Just was curious about your thoughts.
BTW, the ONE IRREPLACABLE disc in my quiver is the CE Aviar/1st run Q Omega. The one do-anything disc that garnered me my first two tourney aces, almost three years apart to the day, with the SAME DISC!!!

I don't think one philosophy is better than the other. I know Kenny won several World's with Aviars, Rocs, and Vipers in various stages of beatness, but after that, his selection grew somewhat for subsequent championships. If I had to pick a few discs to follow this philosophy now, I guess it would include the Aviar, Roc, TeeBird, and Destroyer. However, courses are longer and more varied now, than they were 10 years ago, competition is broader than it used to be and every weapon you can use to your advantage helps to separate you from the crowd. None of the aforementioned discs could get you a two on hole two of the Winthrop Gold course, but a driver that could, might separate you from the competition. Also, a driver that could fight the wind like it wasn't there could prove very useful at times. An excellent overhead disc might win a stroke here and there. A disc for the woods that had a slow turn and no return could prove useful, and so forth.

[gippy]

Originally Posted by tafe

Dave,
What is your philosophy regarding carrying a variety of different discs for various shots versus carrying copies of certain discs in varying degrees of plastic and beatness? I find that my bag has quite a wide variety of discs, with relatively few copies among them. I guess that I'm more comfortable knowing that I don't have to season a disc "just right". Therefore I have adapted my selection to accomadate this. I realize golf is more mental than physical, and what makes you comfortable, go with. Just was curious about your thoughts.
BTW, the ONE IRREPLACABLE disc in my quiver is the CE Aviar/1st run Q Omega. The one do-anything disc that garnered me my first two tourney aces, almost three years apart to the day, with the SAME DISC!!!

IMO use the right tool for the job, but having multiple tools that do the same thing is wasted space.
My Bag consists of Avair(2-3),Roc(4-5),Whippet,Leopard(2),Valkyrie(1-2),Eagle(4-My go to),Firebird(1),Destroyer(3),Teerex(depending on course and wind),Nuke(1)

[discgolf lion]

Dave,
any word with any courses going into Mojave or Devour or anywhere else in Socal?

[davei]

Originally Posted by discgolf lion

Dave,
any word with any courses going into Mojave or Devour or anywhere else in Socal?

I was asked to lay out a preliminary course for Glen Helen, in Devore at the beginning of November. I mapped it and sent it in, but I haven't heard back since then. Mojave was put on the back burner when Pelican lake flooded out.

[Saucer Tosser]

Originally Posted by tafe

Dave,
What is your philosophy regarding carrying a variety of different discs for various shots versus carrying copies of certain discs in varying degrees of plastic and beatness? I find that my bag has quite a wide variety of discs, with relatively few copies among them. I guess that I'm more comfortable knowing that I don't have to season a disc "just right". Therefore I have adapted my selection to accomadate this. I realize golf is more mental than physical, and what makes you comfortable, go with...

I agree with your thinking on new plastic. I own a duplicate of almost every disc I like. I only carry the duplicates in 3 conditions: 1) For serious practice rounds if I throw a Roc approach poorly, I can try again with the same disc. 2) For tournaments I carry every disc I own in case I lose one. This gives me confidence of not worrying about losing a disc. Yes, I have a huge tournament bag. 3) I bring it to doubles, and if I get picked to play Kali, I bring the duplicates so I can take the second shot with the same disc, sometimes.

[pterodactyl]

Thank you, Dave and Innova, for the nice Christmas disc card and calendar. Hope you get all of your holiday wishes to come true.
HNY
KL

[agyba]

Hi Dave

I just noticed in another thread, Chuck posted that the Innova Wedge has recently been approved.

I saw a lot of great info about the Wahoo, Vulcan and experimental XB in this thread. Can you tell us a little about the Wedge?

Thanks in Advance, and Happy Holidays

[davei]

Originally Posted by agyba

Hi Dave

I just noticed in another thread, Chuck posted that the Innova Wedge has recently been approved.

I saw a lot of great info about the Wahoo, Vulcan and experimental XB in this thread. Can you tell us a little about the Wedge?

Thanks in Advance, and Happy Holidays

The Wedge is a Putt & Approach that is structurally close to a cross between a Stingray and an XD. It is a straight putter much like the Aviar, but it is a little faster and a heavier flyer in higher weights. Thrown up to about 150 ft it is very straight. Thrown up to 300ft, it has a significant turn. It is a very low profile putter, that still flies like a putter. At higher speeds it has a nice slow turn and very little return or fade. It also makes a very good mid range roller. In lighter weights, (130-140gms), it flies like a much heavier disc, but is easier to throw for younger players.

[one19]

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I recently lost my 162g Star Katana. I saw a 159g Star Katana that was for the Asia Open. I would really like to find Star Katanas in 159g. Could you possibly assist me? Do you ever have 159g ones in your domestic stock? What is the lightest Star Katana that can be/or is being produced? Do you keep track of details such as numbers of discs produced / shipped in each weight / model? Thank you for your time - Harry
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[AviarX]

Merry Christmas Dave!

The opposition you encountered back in the day to a move away from lids seems ridiculous today -- with the benefit of hindsight. At the time, that opposition was just an obstacle that the Eagle/Aero had to clear. Nice huck!

Thank you for 27+ years of Innova golf discs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[one19]

Originally Posted by davei

...The Tee + ...looks a little better in Champion as we don't have to add as much weighting agent to make it 175 gms.

I have no idea how "weights" are achieved in certain instances. I'm intrigued. "Weighting Agent?" I'm sure the amount varies between Champion, Star, Etc.

So, what weight do discs generally come out at?
Meaning no or hardly any weighting agent.
Do all discs have some amount of "agent"?
Is the agent spread uniformly across the disc's plastic?
Does this "agent" affect the set-up of discs or make them harder of softer?
So many questions.
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