Bartlesville Minis!

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by junky

Is this a 1 day gig?

Yes its a single day, 2rounds, 36 holes.
This is my 1st Tourney in a while.
I plan on making it a good one.
Complete Flyer: http://www.tulsadiscsports.org/bvilleflingflyer.html
D.P.

[Big Easy]

Here are Fridays Results

Pro/Open
Dale Patterson 47, 1st in playoff
Mike Adams 47
Jeremy Taylor 49
Norman Brassfield 51
Gordon Hall 59

Advanced

Tyler Gallamore 53
Mo Elhfney 54
Blake Griffith 55
Bobby Clarke 57
Jimmy Haas 57
Jesse Murray 57
Bobby Brown 58
Nick Johnson 58
Jordan Halie 58

Junior

Micah Sartin 63, 13 yr old
Blue Haase 97, 9 yr old

CTP # 1 Tyler Gallamore

No Aces
Ace Pot is $151 with $51 Reseed

[Big Easy]

OK everybody come and support the Tourney in Bartlesville this Saturday.
The goal is 150% back to Am Divisions.
Added cash to pros.
All those who enter the 2 round event will be in the raffle for
an Innova Traveler Basket.
Lots of CTP's and Ring of Fire goodies.
Ams will be receiving a players pack.
Also someone will also go home with this:

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by Big Easy

OK everybody come and support the Tourney in Bartlesville this Saturday.
The goal is 150% back to Am Divisions.
Added cash to pros.
All those who enter the 2 round event will be in the raffle for
an Innova Traveler Basket.
Lots of CTP's and Ring of Fire goodies.
Ams will be receiving a players pack.
Also someone will also go home with this:

Weather forcast is looking great
Mid 80's and lots of Sunshine.
Bring your Mini, We may have a Mini ring of Fire

[Big Easy]

Results for Thursdays 6pm Mini
It was a little windy, Helped keep it cooler...
We had 20 players tonight

Pro
Dale Patterson 45
Jeremy Taylor 52
Norm Brassfield 53
Tyler Gallamore 54
Mo Elhfney 54
Gordon Hall 54
Jordan Hollis 55

Advanced
Kyle Streets 54
Scott Ketcher 57 Won 2nd in throwoff.
Zach Ketcher 57
Christian Walsh 59
Tom Ketcher 59
Josh Luster 65

Recreational
Brian Schultes 57
Corey Olivarez 63
Bobby Brown 63
Tyler Wilson 66
Jason Reugauner DNF

Women
Jessica Lancaster 77
Fawn Wilson 78

Paid CTP Dale Patterson
Free CTP (donated by Jeremey Taylor) Tyler Gallamore

Ace Pot is now $82, Plus $56 Reseed

We will be playing again next week at 6pm
Come on out if you can.

D.P.

[Big Easy]

If you can't play in the chandler mini....
and will be in the Bartlesville area....
( I don't like scheduling over a Tulsa Mini Event...
But you guys have taken ALL the weeknights. So what choice do I have )
We will be having our Thursday mini tonight at 6pm.
So hope to see you if you are in Bville.
D.P.

[Big Easy]

Results for Thursdays 6pm Mini
A North East wind, Relatively cool ...
We had 19 players tonight

Pro
Dave Wise 49
Norm Brassfield 50
Christ Stine 51
Gordon Hall 51
Dave Pennecamp 51
Dale Patterson 52 ??? Not feeling it :P
Mo Elhefny 54

Advanced
Jordan Hollis 53
Scott Ketcher 55 2nd in Playoff Again
Dan Johnson 55
Tom Ketcher 57
Matt Miller 66 Playing Left Handed

Recreational
Christian Walsh 55
Jesse Brooks 56
Brian Schultes 57
Tyler Wilson 60
Corey Olivarez 61
Joshua Lancaster 66
Fawn Wilson 71

Paid CTP Matt Miller Left Handed No less :P
Free CTP (donated by Dale Patterson ) Penny, Measured 1/8", that was close.

Ace Pot is now $90

We will be playing again next week at 6pm
Come on out if you can.

D.P.

[Big Easy]

If you will be in the Bartlesville area this evening ....
We will be having our Thursday mini tonight at 6pm, Sooner Park.
Ace Pot is approaching $100
So hope to see you if you are in Bville.
D.P.

[Big Easy]

It was another great evening in Bville.
The wind was finally back around to the South East.
We had 20 participants again.

Pro
Dale Patterson 42, apparently I liked the south wind
Christ Stine 45
Norm Brassfield 50
Gordon Hall 51
Mo Elhefny 53

Advanced

Jesse Brooks 54
Jimmy Haas 54
Jesse Murray 55
Wade Stergis 57
Blake Griffith 57
Bobby Clarke 57
Christian Walsh 57

Novice
Cheyene Spencer 52 (Knows to play advanced next time.)
Kyle Streets 55 Same ....
Ron Harvey 55 Same .....
Brian Schultes 55 Same ....
Tyler Wilson 67
Roger Burrow 68
Daniel Tibbs 72

Paid Ctp Chris Stine, Cash
Free Ctp Bobby Clarke, SS Wizard

Ace Pot is now $96, W/ $68 Reseed.

We will be here next again Next Thursday @ 6pm.
Hope to see you there.

Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

Since we are having our Club Meeting on Thursday
We have moved our weekly Mini to Saturday July 10th.
This will be two seperate Minis. 10am and 2pm.
Since this is a weekend Mini it will be $10 entry.
If you are in the Bartlesville area I hope you can make it out....
Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by Big Easy

Since we are having our Club Meeting on Thursday
We have moved our weekly Mini to Saturday July 10th.
This will be two seperate Minis. 10am and 2pm.
Since this is a weekend Mini it will be $10 entry.
If you are in the Bartlesville area I hope you can make it out....
Dale Patterson

Bump

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by Big Easy

Since we are having our Club Meeting on Thursday
We have moved our weekly Mini to Saturday July 10th.
This will be two seperate Minis. 10am and 2pm.
Since this is a weekend Mini it will be $10 entry.
If you are in the Bartlesville area I hope you can make it out....
Dale Patterson

Bump Bump

[Big Easy]

Most light NE winds in Bville.
Fairly Cool but humid morning.

Pro
Dale Patterson 46,
Christ Stine 49, ( Led by 1 with 3 to go, took 5 on last hole going for it )
Jeremy Taylor 50

Advanced

Matthew Free 53
Jesse Brooks 53
Christian Walsh 55
Jimmy Haase 57
Mo Elhefney 60


Novice/Rec

Corey Olivarez 57
Kevin Walker 57
Paul Barnes 60
Matt Miller 71, Playing Left handed still


Paid Ctp #5,Chris Stine, Cash
Free Ctp, Jimmy Hasse, DX Teebird, Donated by Jeremy Taylor

Ace Pot is now $99, W/ $71 Reseed.

Thanks to everyone who made it out.

Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

Light winds in the afternoon.
Alot less humid but warmer.

Pro
Dale Patterson 43
Mo Elhefney 57

Advanced
Jimmy Haase 52
Christian Walsh 61
Dan Johnson 62

Novice/Rec
Corey Olivarez 61

Women
Fawn Wilson 66
Jessica Lancaster 85

Junior
Blue Hasse 83

Paid Ctp Jimmy Hasse
Donated Free Ctp, KC Pro Roc, Corey Olivarez

Ace Pot is now $101, W/ $73 Reseed.

We will be here next again Thursday @ 6pm.
Hope to see you there.

Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

Despite a little rain at the beginning and at the end.
We had 14 souls who came out to play.

Pro
Dale Patterson 48
Gordon Hall 54

Advanced
Jesse Brooks 49 Best Mini Round !!!!
Wade Oller 50 One of the Pawhuska Clan
Cheyene Spencer 53, Up from Owasso
Matt Free 55
Bobby Clarke 57
Ron Harvey 57

Novice/Rec
Kevin Walker 57
Logan Shuping 58
Matt Miller 60 Left Handed even !!!
Corey Olivarez 62
Thatcher Taylor 62
Kendal Oller 64

CTP # 11 Jesse Brooks
Ace Pot $105, Reseed $77

Thanks for coming out.
If You can make it to Bville next Thursday we will be here at 6pm again.

Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

Wind was a little up in Bartlesville but it just made it cooler.
We had 23 out for tonights Mini.

Seth Cook made out with an ACE on Hole #12.
Our first paid Mini Ace for $110.
He also walked away with the CTP for $14.
He also placed 3rd in the mini for $15.
For a grand Total of $139.

Tonight was handicap night and everyone was in one group.
I used the averages of everyones scores this year.
Used an 80% of par 50 formula Chuch Kennedy put out a few years ago.
23 player paid 7 spots.
$29,$20,$15,$9,$7,$5,$3

Keep in Mind 50 - 52 would be shooting average.

Matt Miller 40.23
Daniel Tibbs 42.74
Seth Cook 47.39
Dale Patterson 47.99
Kevin Walker 48.37
Christian Walsh 48.57
Mo Elhefney 50.17
Jesse Brooks 50.59
Jessica Lancaster 50.65
Roger Burrow 52.24
Norm Brassfield 52.60
Gordon Hall 52.99
Wade Oller 53.00
Dan Johnson 53.17
Bobby Clarke 53.63
Corey Olivarez 54.56
Brian Schultes 56.74
Jimmy Haase 56.98
Tyler Wilson 57.25
Cheyene Spencer 58.99
Chris Stine 61.21

9 of 21 players shot 50 something or better. 12 shot 52.?? or better,
System seems to do fairly well with the exception of those quickly improving.
Noted by the 40 and the 42
There were 2 new players not included in these scores.

With the reseed our Ace Pot is now $85

If You can make it to Bville next Thursday we will be here at 6pm again.

Also we will be having a Moonlight Mini Next Friday at 8:30pm.
Signups start at 8pm.

Thanks to all who attended.
Dale Patterson

[pdorries]

dale you got 4th even with your handicap system? I call BS! What is this janky ranking system?

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by pdorries

dale you got 4th even with your handicap system? I call BS! What is this janky ranking system?

Pual, I shot -8 with about a -6.5 avg.
I did some more figuring trying to weigh how fair this ended up playing out.
The system is trying to Level everyone at a score of around 50.
If you average 50 your handicap is 0.
My average was below 50 so I had to give shots to those over 50 avg.
If you average all 21 handicap adjusted scores the average is: 49.62.
So based on the numbers it looks like it worked fairly well.

This is a system published online by Chuck Kennedy several years back.
This system uses 80% of scratch/par is what the USGA uses for handicapping.
50 as par, was one of the sheets he had available it seemed to be a good number for the bartlesville course.

DGU also has a system available online, but it costs.
I have run 2 or 3 small events using 100% of the difference in 54 several times.
It seemed like MOST of the time the highest handicaps EASILY won.
So I thought I would try the 80% factor and it seems to work well.

The guy that averages 65 has an easier chance to shoot 55 than...
Me whose average is 47.5 and my best is 42 only room for 5 more shots...
(Thats what happend last night Matt Miller playing left handed shot 54 with about a 65 avg)
65 has about a -12 handicap, 47.5 has right at a +2 handicap.
That is 14 strokes difference in handciap.... But the raw scoring average difference is 17.5.
So there is a little buffer for the lower scoring pros
since they don't have as much room to go low.
Thats why 50 seemed like a good 0 handicap number..

Fair ??? .... Seems like it did Fairly Well.
D.P.

[pdorries]

Originally Posted by Big Easy

Pual, I shot -8 with about a -6.5 avg.
I did some more figuring trying to weigh how fair this ended up playing out.
The system is trying to Level everyone at a score of around 50.
If you average 50 your handicap is 0.
My average was below 50 so I had to give shots to those over 50 avg.
If you average all 21 handicap adjusted scores the average is: 49.62.
So based on the numbers it looks like it worked fairly well.

This is a system published online by Chuck Kennedy several years back.
This system uses 80% of scratch/par is what the USGA uses for handicapping.
50 as par, was one of the sheets he had available it seemed to be a good number for the bartlesville course.

DGU also has a system available online, but it costs.
I have run 2 or 3 small events using 100% of the difference in 54 several times.
It seemed like MOST of the time the highest handicaps EASILY won.
So I thought I would try the 80% factor and it seems to work well.

The guy that averages 65 has an easier chance to shoot 55 than...
Me whose average is 47.5 and my best is 42 only room for 5 more shots...
(Thats what happend last night Matt Miller playing left handed shot 54 with about a 65 avg)
65 has about a 12 handicap, 47.5 has right at a 2 handicap.
That is 14 strokes difference in handciap.... But the raw scoring average difference is 17.5.
So there is a little buffer for the lower scoring pros
since they don't have as much room to go low.
Thats why 50 seemed like a good 0 handicap number..

Fair ??? .... Seems like it did Fairly Well.
D.P.

I love crunching numbers, but dang... you put a lot into thinking this system through... seems like a good thing!

I love the idea of it being an equal playing field. except it is hard on guys like you with higher averages.

[Martin_Norris]

yes the 80% thing is a standard in ball (USGA) golf and the system has been tried and true for a really long time they have something called a Callaway system for players that have no verifiable or provable handicap but it is different it takes score over par and allows a player to drop one or more worst holes from the round based on their un-adjusted final score you would have to talk to a course pro that runs club tournaments with member guests events to get the low down on that one.

[evandmckee]

We used this system when we first started mini tournaments at Ben Geren and had very few players, it worked very well, I found it neat how close some results can be with rarely the same few guys winning all the time, it's neat to see a way that a 800 rated guy can compete with a 1000 rated player

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by evandmckee

We used this system when we first started mini tournaments at Ben Geren and had very few players, it worked very well, I found it neat how close some results can be with rarely the same few guys winning all the time, it's neat to see a way that a 800 rated guy can compete with a 1000 rated player

My main motivation was to give everybody a chance.
Most times no matter what divsions people enter
there is a large spread between the best and worst.
That can be discouraging for players who are new and trying to get better.
I will be doing this on a monthly basis to try and give those guys a chance.
Hopefully they won't just give up and go away.
I hope.
D.P.

[mtreat]

You're getting great turn outs Dale. I think the handicap deal is really cool.

Bartlesville is now one of the most active Disc Golf towns in the state.

Way to go Dale!!

I still want that Woolaroc tournament. Maybe run it as a fund raiser??

[Big Easy]

Originally Posted by mtreat

You're getting great turn outs Dale. I think the handicap deal is really cool.

Bartlesville is now one of the most active Disc Golf towns in the state.

Way to go Dale!!

I still want that Woolaroc tournament. Maybe run it as a fund raiser??

Keep the flame burning....

Things will have to work out just right.
Some details will need to be worked out 1st.
9 or 18 holes, Temp Baskets, Permission :P

The open range area is not really in play.
Are you familiar with the nature trails area.
Wooded, Elevation Change, Nice setting.
That might be our best bet.

I meet with our CEO Monday, I will mention the idea...
and see how he responds.

[Big Easy]

Just a reminder.

If you are in the Bartlesville area Thursday or Friday.

We will be having our Regular 6pm Thursday mini today and

Friday we will be having a Moonlight Mini, Signups close at 8:30pm.

Weather looks great.
Ace pot is already back near $100
Looking forward to a great turnout.
Come on out if you can.
D.P.

[Big Easy]

18 players out tonight.
A little breeze and heat index just over a hundred at the start tonight.

Pro
Dave Wise 46
Dale Patterson 47, Dave birdied the last hole I didn't :P
Seth Cook 49, No Ace Yeah :P
Dave Pennecamp, 50
Moe Elhefney 52
Chris Stine 53
Gordon Hall 53

Amature
Jimmy Haase 54
Matt Miller 55
Jesse Brooks 55
Bobby Clarke 58
Jesse Murray 58
Brian Schultes 59

Novice
Kevin Walker 54
Josh Roark 57
Bobby Brown 61
Daniel Tibbs 64
Thatcher Taylor 71

CTP Gordon Hall
No Aces, Ace Pot is now $98

Bag Tag Info:
Dave Wise #17
Dale Patterson #18
Seth Cook #34
Dave Pennecamp #54 ?

We will be here again next week Thursday at 6pm.

Don't forget if you are in the Bville area tommorrow night.
We will be having a glow mini, Signups begin at 8pm, Tee at 8:30pm.

Thanks to everyone who has been able to support the Bartlesville Minis.
Dale Patterson :O)

[Big Easy]

What an nice evening for night golf.
Our first ever Moonlight Mini.

Pro,
Dale Patterson 45,
Norm Brassfield 50,
Gordon Hall 53.

Am,
Bobby Clarke 54,
Brian Schultes 58,
Bryan Carr 59.

Rec,
Corey Olivarez 57,
Tyler wilson 61,

Women,
Audrey Lopez 65,
Fawn Wilson 70,
Jessica Lancaster 74.

...CTP Audrey Lopez,

No Aces, Ace Pot $101

Thanks to everyone who made it out.
Our next Mini is 6pm Thursday

Dale Patterson

[Big Easy]

In addition to our regular minis on Thursdays 6pm in August at Sooner Park in Bville...
There will be Minis in a new location up North :O)

THE LODGE

To give those a chance to play who can't make it to Tulsa or Bartlesville for Minis....
And to give Jim a chance to encourage more Pawhuska youth to play...
There will be four in August leading up to Okie Dubs.

Saturday August 7th Noon, $10 Mini, For those who can't make it to States in OKC.
Tuesday August 10th $5 Mini, 5:30pm Rolling Start. Last card at 6:15pm.
Monday August 16th $5 Mini, 5:30pm Rolling Start. Last card at 6:15pm.
Monday Augst 23rd $5 Mini, 5:30pm Rolling Start. Last card at 6:15pm.

We will be playing the Island Course.
We will likely have the Pros playing Blues. We will see if the light holds... :P
And the lower fields playing the white and red tees.

Come on out if you can,
Looking forward to starting a new chapter
at one of the coolest places The Lodge.

I know these are on top of Tulsa Minis. Sorry there aren't any open days left. :P
These are meant to develop more locals not pull away from Tulsa.
Thanks
D.P.

[Big Easy]

Bartlesville Sooner Park 6pm tonight.
Cooler weather nice...
Make it out if you can.
D.P.

[twoputtok]

Oh yea!