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#2971 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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How much money from your "sanctioned event" gets kicked back into your course and since when have any of your "sanctioned" events ever kicked back more cash into your course than one at Chandler and all the "non-members" attending.
Since when have you or your course ever done anything out there without having to ask for monetary support from the club? As for my event and Centennial....... I broke even for the event. But I have donated several hundred dollars to the course. The sod wasn't free, neither were the first tee pads markers. The extra dirt wasn't free. All of the concrete on the baskets wasn't free. All of these expenses and others came from my pocket. Could I have asked club for help? Maybe, but Ithought, how nice would it be to have a course that the club did not contribut one dime towards. Since they can't get the city of Tulsa to contribute one dime or get credit for the 100K we have put into the Tulsa courses. They won't even replace a stolen basket. Can you say that? You can't even say the members from your event paid for anything. All of their money goes to the Parks Friends slush fund. The concrete was paid by the club. Just what has Park Friends given back to the course or the club? And don't say its the county workers putting in the baskets either, they get a pay check for that. I can gaurantee Park Friends didn't pay for that. Also, in trade, my course has provided new golfers for all of the other minis around town. They pay their fees, the club gets the money. You can biatch all you want but the only thing not being a member prohibits me from doing is voting ot getting 2 free hot dogs a year. If you want to campaign for Centennial being removed from the schedule of events or advertisements, go for it. I'll just stop telling them about all the Tulsa events they should be playing and that ChandlerStock is nothing more than a cash cow for the TD and the Park Friends. At any given mini, you can't tell me who is a current member and who isn't. If all the current members are lifers, then what are they doing for the club? You lose over $50 a year to me, just take the rest of your losses for this year and buy me a membership. Last edited by twoputtok; Jul 06 2010 at 12:36 PM. |
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#2972 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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How many dollars are being lost from Non-members at each and every TDSA event? Over the year, I'd bet it to be at least an 80% increase over current mini income. At least until they figure it out and become a member. Plain and simple................what advantage does a member have over a non-member? Plain and simple again......nothing. |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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#2974 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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I only bring this up because I see a way to increase income and membership at the same time. I'll even be the first to kick in my extra dollar at the next mini and every mini their after. This is the reason I never became a life time member. I felt that by paying yearly dues I give more to the club over time.
If I thought it would hurt the club I wouldn't even consider it. The only way we get new members now is from a few new players that have become very active in the sport. Other than that it takes an ace to get a new member and he/she will be a one timer, unless they hit another ace. To tell you the truth, I didn't know I wasn't current until you mentioned it the other day. That's the problem with a 2 year membership vs. an annual renewal. People forget. But since you did mention it, it got me to thinking again.....why? Sure it supports the club but how do we get more of these players at the minis to be really involved? The club provides them courses to play, (if not for the club and past members there may only still be 2 courses in town), they provide scheduled events almost 7 days a week, numerous sanctioned and non-sanctioned events, clinics, donate to local charities......and the list goes on. With all the club actually does provide, it should continue to provide the benefits to members but a minimal fee of $1 to non-members, which is MORE than fair and will allow the club to do even more. Its a win win. Or you could create a member vs. non-member payout. Reduce the non-members payout by 20%. If they ask why they got less than the next guy, just tell them he is a club member. That its one of the perks of membership. Would you like a form? |
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#2975 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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#2977 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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#2978 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Maybe but at the time I believe you just wanted total control and a way of telling the TDSA to screw off. I also believe there was the promise of some trash cans and benches in there too.
I don't have to have a reason to tell anyone to screw off, you should know that. But when you don't owe favors, it is easier. The city will not allow any other kind of benches than the ones they have now, $500 each. I can't afford to buy very much at that costs. But I am donating all of the materials for a kiosk and have a person that is going to build it. That should happen this fall when it cools down. Chandler REALLY needs one. While the course may not currently have permanent trash cans, the city is great about getting them out there for events.![]() Well I don't believe the TDSA covered anything on the new Riverside layout Niether did the city of Tulsa. That was an existing course that got a remake through River Parks, River Park Friends and Quick Trip. When has the City(other than Dave Z) gave us any recognition for our contributions to the City Parks system? I can only imagine the amount of money and man hours that we have GIVEN to the parks system. ![]() To date: 1/3 the cost of the baskets, $900 Did they write a check? if so, to who? Bricks for the raised baskets # 1 & # 4, $600 and free labor. You got hosed on this deal. I just bought 2 pallets of those bricks and there was 144 on a pallet for way less than that. Free labor? I'd like to see their time sheets, you can bet the County paid for their time. All 2.5 months it took to build them ![]() Free shelter rental for club events and much more to come. They should for all the work the club puts in out there and all the money donated to Park Friends. I will have to admit its a much nicer park than before and looks like it will get even better. The addition of the new course makes it worth driving up there to play. Now if they could just get someone up there to run it all.
Last edited by twoputtok; Jul 06 2010 at 02:52 PM. |
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#2979 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Not a problem. Have a sheet just like the one you have now with a slightly different pay out schedule. prove you're a member or you get this much for 1st, instead of this much or this much for 3rd vs. this much. They may sign up after that. If there is 10 in the division, you just look at what place they are and pay accordingly.
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#2980 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Say what you want but you will still be lying.
![]() Maybe but............................................... ... If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed. |
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#2981 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Well after finding this site, I will back off of your park friends. As you will see you can donated specificaly to the disc golf fund. Have never seen this before. Why did I have to find it? I bet you didn't even know about it. Why is it not on the club page?
http://www.parkfriendsinc.org/chandler-park-funds |
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#2982 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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Like duh???....Dimwad.....I've known about it since day one that I took over out there.
I've talked about it on the board and at every CS. Where have you been??? The website if fairly new though and they mispelled "disc". ![]() It's not on the TDSA board because the TDSA really has no direct control over that money though we can ask or suggest certain things that it be used for. Why would I want to step down out there when I finally got everything the way I want it??? ![]() Next month's guest TD is Bud Johnson!!!
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#2983 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tulsa OK
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Now how much were those membership fees!!! |
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#2984 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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"Swagg Bagger!!!"....You're not showing up as "current" either.
![]() Request DENIED!!!! ![]() Doesn't it bother you that a non-current outlaw member like Wise can "backdoor" an event vs a non-current Admin like you that can't even front-door an event like a normal current member? ![]() ![]() Actually the LS guys already had that date anyway. ![]() And such are the days of our lives......(cue sad violin music here>>>>>) Last edited by sschumacher; Jul 06 2010 at 03:29 PM. |
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#2985 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 1,106
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Doubles at Chandler... Give me a break, don't show up if you can't play perfect....because there are going to be alot of them...
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#2986 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tulsa OK
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#2987 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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I didn't back door anyone. I looked at the calandar, told them what it was for and asked if I could have it. Simple as that.
I think the catch phrase here is "You snooze, you lose" Duff. |
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#2988 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tulsa OK
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I wasn't snoozin....I think someone could have given me a reach around at least
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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I noticed the guy running the band camp thing (Kevin Hendricks) is a Farmers insurance agent as well. Is he your new or potentially new boss? There's not a single word about this "band camp" event on his website either. ![]() There should be at least one parent playing for every kid going. Is "The band" actually going to be there??? What about Drew??? Is he going to be suited up and ready to go?
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#2990 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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![]() Drew will be there. made the drum line as a freshman. How ever Julie and I will not be there. We will have to go through the holidays with out him. Quite sad.If you;re asking about the disc tournament, the whole family will be there. Drew shot a 52 out there 2 days ago. Last edited by twoputtok; Jul 06 2010 at 08:25 PM. |
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#2991 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Furdog\'s Mountain
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Well here are my suggestions for your band camp tourney whether you want to hear them or not.
If the band members are not playing then they should at least be there to represent. Personally I would like to hear them play Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" and other rock'n roll stuff throughout the round. People in the ajoining neighborhood might get drawn in as well and it would bring more attention to the event. If not that then at least one band member per hole playing his or her instrument on each hole when I tee off. Maybe a dramatic drum roll or something or in my case a tuba would probably represent my game better. ![]() Finally, If they don't want to play then have them offer to caddie. $1 per hole not including tips if they run and get me something to drink. I'll give your kid $20 to start.
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#2992 |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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really? i wasn't sure what the masters shot, wanted to compare
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Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Sad, very sad...........................
![]() Now you're wanting to compare your scores to a field of 40 and 50 year olds. You beat the masters field.Well don't stop there lets see how you did against the women and jrs. All women and jrs........did the pro Paul Dorries beat your score? ![]() By the way, nice put on 18. Also I put you on the clock for that drive and putt. You took the ENTIRE 30 seconds for the putt and 25 for the drive. If I played in your division, I'd clock you on every drive and putt and call you on it when they go over. You need to pick up the pace. If you and Sears were on the same card, you wouldn't have finsihed befor 9pm.
Last edited by twoputtok; Jul 07 2010 at 12:16 PM. |
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#2994 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tulsa OK
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#2995 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok.
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Some think it, others say it.
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#2996 |
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Location: Tulsa
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How you approach is everything in life and Disc Golf. ![]() Disc Golf: a Sport, a recreation, a state of mind. |
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I'm pretty sure that FurDog has joined the PTA in your absence and is planning on "joining the band" as a "chaperone" and "mentor" to these youth ![]()
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#2998 |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bartlesville, OK
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Yeah it kind of takes some of the fun out of it when scores aren't posted on-line.
Duff didn't do it for McClure. I don't think Joel even owns a computer ![]() Maybe someone ( in the tulsa area ) would like to help him out. :O)
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Also, the drive would NOT have taken 25 seconds if I didn't slip on the run up and have to start over. Most of my other drives probably take about 15-20 seconds. If you want to walk up to your drive and putt and just chuck away and record a nice .5 second prep time, thats fine by me. I will continue to use as much time as I want, I've never been called for anything in a sanctioned event, so get over it old man. I know there is only a certain amount of time you can hold your peepee inside your body, that isn't of my concern. Go to the doctor, get a cure for your enlarged prostate, and then when your going problem is no longer a growing problem, maybe you will become a pleasant person to be around.
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snapp!
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JUST PUTT FROM THE TEE BOX.....THAT WAY IF YOU THREE PUTT ITS NOT SO BAD. |
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