Ask Chuck Kennedy

[Fats]

The Solengs right now are at 2015. Kollstroms look to have them by 10. Still quite close.

[bruce_brakel]

Originally Posted by cgkdisc

Not sure how the PDGA would know who the twins were in the data files to check it? We'll have to see if anyone else pipes in. I think Markus and Anders still hold the brothers title.

I don't know if you can access the data this way but twins often have the same last name and birthdate. Other than some Joneses and Smiths, that is less common among non-twins.

[jmonny]

[QUOTE=bruce_brakel;1424565]twins often have the same last name and birthdate. QUOTE]

good one bruce!

[Smitty2004]

Chuck-

I am going to be running a C-tier at my local course in a little over a month. The course is only 9 holes and we plan on expanding it to 13. During this event several groups will play 2 rounds of 13 then take a break and come back with a final round of 13. There will be another pool of players who will play during the first pools down time.

Here are my questions:
1) Is 13 holes the magic number to get a rating?
2) If I enter the results as 3 rounds of 13, will all players get 3 ratings?
3) Would it be possible for a person to play in both Pools? Adv. and Pro for example.
4) When I enter the results will it be important to specify who plays what pool at what time? The course will not change at all during the day.

[cgkdisc]

1) Is 13 holes the magic number to get a rating? Yes
2) If I enter the results as 3 rounds of 13, will all players get 3 ratings? Yes
3) Would it be possible for a person to play in both Pools? Adv. and Pro for example.
Better check with Gentry at: dgentry@pdga.com . Normally that's only allowed when divisions play on different days.
4) When I enter the results will it be important to specify who plays what pool at what time? The course will not change at all during the day. Yes, you still need to do it on the report so the automated process picks up the info from the report. But what will happen is that scores from all rounds will be averaged together so everyone will get the same rating for the same score no matter what round they played.

[Smitty2004]

Thanks Chuck, these are exactly the answers I was looking for.

Seems to me like the simplest thing to do on playing both pools is to simply say no.

Thanks again.


Smitty

[pterodactyl]

Originally Posted by tkieffer

Out of curiosity, where would you draw the line? How would you test or enforce?

Definitely a tough subject.

Cup check! or...what's the capital of Thailand?

[33009]

Hey Chuck

just played a Pdga tournament this weekend and shouldn't of. I was under the weather and my first 2 rounds were pretty bad. The TD did post the scores Saturday night for the first day. I shot 40 and 60 points below my rating. I got more sick over night and withdrew the next day. I did not Finish the tourny. Will the 2 rounds I did play count in my next rating even though I didn't finish the tourny?

Thanks in advance

[cgkdisc]

Yes, all completed rounds get rated even if you don't play all of them in a tourney. It's been this way since ratings started in 1999.

[RhynoBoy]

Chuck,

Wasn't there an excel document you could plug players scores and ratings into and try to come up with SSA's for courses, and local player ratings? I've seen somebody use something like this before, but can't find it anywhere.

Thanks for your time,

Chris

[cgkdisc]

PDGA HQ has requested it not be available any more. But there are other ways to determine SSA and local round ratings by SSA formula or looking at SSAs on file for a course.

[RhynoBoy]

Alright thanks, I ended up finding it elsewhere.

[cgkdisc]

The versions floating around out there are now obsolete due to some changes in our process but still produce reasonably decent estimates.

[CGPRush]

Originally Posted by RhynoBoy

Alright thanks, I ended up finding it elsewhere.

Can you pm me with a link to where you found it?

Thanks in advance!

[sammyshaheen]

Chuck,

This is IT kind of but why doesn't the tournament
results page default to show the rounds with ratings?

[cgkdisc]

I'm guessing mainly because there aren't any ratings when results are posted as official before we do the official ratings update. One of Gentry's priorities is to eventually get it so the unofficial ratings stay there when the results get posted as official. Then, having ratings there as a default will make sense. I think people still will want to see just the scores round by round and hide the ratings as an option.

[Lowelife]

Chuck,

There doesn't seem to be any round ratings for Lemon Lake All-course series #2 & #3, but these events have been done for quite some time. And now it seems event #4 isn't accurate as far as who played what courses; the ratings don't seem to match up. Any ideas on how this can be fixed?

[cgkdisc]

The unofficial round ratings always disappear once the report is received by the PDGA until the official ratings are processed and posted.

I just fixed the unofficial ratings for #4. Those who don't have round ratings for morning Silver and afternoon White will get them when we do the official report.

[CB2]

Hey Chuck, Does there have to be a certain amount of players with ratings in a divison to get ratings for the tournament?

Just wondering because I played in a tournament about a week ago and the int and Rec players got no ratings.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament-resul...ings=1#Masters

[cgkdisc]

Yes. At least 5 who have ratings over 799 based on at least 8 rounds are required to play a layout for players to get unofficial ratings. We then try to calculate them officially using a manual process if less than 5.

[Lowelife]

Originally Posted by cgkdisc

The unofficial round ratings always disappear once the report is received by the PDGA until the official ratings are processed and posted.

I just fixed the unofficial ratings for #4. Those who don't have round ratings for morning Silver and afternoon White will get them when we do the official report.

Thanks for the quick reply and fix Chuck

[vinnie]

When's the next rating update?

[krupicka]

It's posted on the pdga home page: pdga.com

[JimKelly]

I am having trouble finding the SSA for the MA1 Am Worlds layouts for all of the courses. Do you happen to know? Or know how to find this information?

[cgkdisc]

Here's where you look them up by entering Ohio to get the list:
http://www.pdga.com/course-ratings-by-course

However, some of the test event course data with the Worlds layouts won't be in here yet until the ratings update on June 22nd.

[chappyfade]

Ever seen a 920-rated player shoot a 1035-rated round? Then turn around and shoot an 877-rated round the next round?

Check out the Japan Open 1st day results and scroll down to Jack Lowe. I wonder how much sake Jack had at lunch.

Chap

[jmonny]

Originally Posted by chappyfade

Ever seen a 920-rated player shoot a 1035-rated round? Then turn around and shoot an 877-rated round the next round?

Check out the Japan Open 1st day results and scroll down to Jack Lowe. I wonder how much sake Jack had at lunch.

Chap

Max Crotts....we call that pulling a Max Crotts.

[exczar]

I saw that freefall score as well. Maybe jet lag finally caught up with him - it was the second round of the day. Hope there was no injury.

So Chap, who of last year's KC Worlds staff is going to the USDGC exemption to play this year? Am a little bit jealous, my game is starting to deteriorate (GM age), and I probably will never get to play the course as a competitor.

[chappyfade]

I doubt there was an injury. Just the inconsistency that comes from being a 920 player.

Jack and I both played in USDGC last fall on the exemptions. So if you're looking for a Worlds exemption, you'll have to talk to Mr. Cummings.

Chap

[MTL21676]

Forrest Callaway from GA a few years ago (and I just tried to find the tournament and couldn't) in a 4 round event shot a round in the 1000s, the 900s, the 800s and the 700s.

One of the craziest things in terms of inconsistency I've ever seen.