Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[20460chase]

Hi Dave,

So whats up with the newest lightweight Star Boss? I have developed a cult following for the 167-168g that show the Starlight mix. The newest are really grippy and dont show the leftover residue. Are they still going to have the same flight lines or is there something different so you dont need the Starlight mix anymore?

[davei]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Hi Dave,

So whats up with the newest lightweight Star Boss? I have developed a cult following for the 167-168g that show the Starlight mix. The newest are really grippy and dont show the leftover residue. Are they still going to have the same flight lines or is there something different so you dont need the Starlight mix anymore?

The light ones still use the Starlight, but we are getting a little better at it. It's tricky. They still should be very stable to over stable. 166-168gm. Higher weight than that and it's hit and miss as to the stability. Rarely they go down to 165g, but get even more over stable.

[bpait]

Dave,

I have owned or seen some of the champion rhynos that have DX stamps on them. Were these x-outs or was the stamp intentional and is this a rare run? I have seen very many champion discs with DX stamps. Thanks.

[davei]

Originally Posted by bpait

Dave,

I have owned or seen some of the champion rhynos that have DX stamps on them. Were these x-outs or was the stamp intentional and is this a rare run? I have seen very many champion discs with DX stamps. Thanks.

Sorry, I don't know anything about a run of Champion Rhyno with a DX stamp.

[20460chase]

They werent X-Outs, just a unnumbered run of Champion with the DX stamp. Ive seen a few dozen over the years and owned a few. Alot of Team discs and samplers are/were sent out with DX stamps, but I wouldnt say its common by any means.

Id hang onto that Rhyno.

[bpait]

I think the big question was really rather or not it should be considered an x-out. I cant imagine an x-out getting a dx stamp. The ones I have had no bubbles or flaws in plastic. I always heard they were rather rare. Just hopeing to get some validation on it.

[LastBoyScout]

I have 2 clear clear rhyno's with a DX stamp. They are not X-Outs or Factory Seconds. They have no such labeling on them to state that they are.

[quickdisc]

Hey Dave ,

Anything New on the Horizon of Disc Golf Plastic ?

I have been trying to keep up on the History and Evolution of Innova Plastic !!!!

Thanks ,

Donny Olow
donnyotime@yahoo.com

[davei]

Originally Posted by quickdisc

Hey Dave ,

Anything New on the Horizon of Disc Golf Plastic ?

I have been trying to keep up on the History and Evolution of Innova Plastic !!!!

Thanks ,

Donny Olow
donnyotime@yahoo.com

Hey Donny,

Nothing on the horizon. I don't know if you have seen all the 159gm discs we have been making.

[Trey133]

Hey Dave,

What happened to your plans to make a boss speed disc w/ xcal like stability?

Thanks,
Trey

[davei]

Originally Posted by Trey133

Hey Dave,

What happened to your plans to make a boss speed disc w/ xcal like stability?

Thanks,
Trey

Too much other stuff to do. Haven't gotten to it yet.

[exczar]

Dave,

What is special about the 159g discs?

[dgdave]

Thats the new max weight for the Open division in the Japan Open

[davei]

Originally Posted by exczar

Dave,

What is special about the 159g discs?

We made several different models specifically for the Japan Open competition that fly very much the same way the heavies do. Star Destroyers, Star Katanas, Star Darts, KC Aviars, R-Pro Rocs, TeeBirds, Banshees, P2s, Monarchs, and a few others. These should make competing in Japan, much easier a transition for the international players.

[illyB]

I must say Dave, that's a pretty good marketing scheme by allowing discs up to 159 grams to be thrown. Everyone going to Japan is gonna want to buy 159.9 if possible.

[LastBoyScout]

I have never been to the JO, but i assume that each person's bag gets emptied out and each disc is weighted to ensure each disc is legal.

Is this true?

[davei]

Originally Posted by LastBoyScout

I have never been to the JO, but i assume that each person's bag gets emptied out and each disc is weighted to ensure each disc is legal.

Is this true?

Yes. The way it was done in 2008, was a stamp was put on certified discs. That year the max was 152. This year it is 159.9gm.

[dstearns5]

Dave,
Are there any plans to make a new fast and overstable disc? I'm thinking something with Max-like stability with Destroyer-like speed. It's tough for those of us with big arms to get big D in heavy winds using what is currently available. Even Xcalibers aren't cutting it. I've been throwing my XCal with a huge hyzer into a headwind, and it still rolls over.

[20460chase]

Could also be a form issue, unless your throwing into 50 mph winds. Just saying.

[dstearns5]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Could also be a form issue, unless your throwing into 50 mph winds. Just saying.

It's not OAT, believe me. It comes out hyzer, slowly rolls past flat, and finally all the way over. A couple of my local pro's said the same thing as you, until they watched me do it.

[DSproAVIAR]

The CFR Glow Destroyer replaced my Xcal because the Xcal was getting flippy. It's been in the bag for a few weeks and is still overstable into a headwind.

[davei]

Originally Posted by dstearns5

It's not OAT, believe me. It comes out hyzer, slowly rolls past flat, and finally all the way over. A couple of my local pro's said the same thing as you, until they watched me do it.

We are planning to make a more over stable Boss at some point. You might try to get a hold of a 166-167gm Starlight Boss. Most are pretty stable to very over stable.

[20460chase]

..Or maybe some of the S-XC version Xcaliber. The CFR Glo versions are also pretty overstable.

Starlights are beef. Over a year in the bag and can still throw a turnover that wont stay turned over.

[dstearns5]

Cool, thanks for the advice.

[20460chase]

Hi Dave,

I got some S-TB marked Star Teebirds today, but thought the initial run of Star had the same thing on the back. Are these just old mixed with new or are they part of a stabilized run like the other stuff designated with the "S" first?

Thank You.

[quickdisc]

I'm looking for these U-Channel dividers for Innova Disc Golf Bags and it looks like everyone is out , including Disc Golf Values.

Any word if they will be available or where or who may have one ?

Thanks in Advance ,

Donny Olow
donnyotime@yahoo.com

[gippy]

Originally Posted by quickdisc

I'm looking for these U-Channel dividers for Innova Disc Golf Bags and it looks like everyone is out , including Disc Golf Values.

Any word if they will be available or where or who may have one ?

Thanks in Advance ,

Donny Olow
donnyotime@yahoo.com

Contact this Pro Shop in Maine : webmaster@woodlandvalleydiscgolf.com
207-229-9825 ask for Linda or Howard I just bought an Innova Bag and didn't need the dividers so I left them with her I think they are $4 don't qoute me on that but I think thats right.

[davei]

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Hi Dave,

I got some S-TB marked Star Teebirds today, but thought the initial run of Star had the same thing on the back. Are these just old mixed with new or are they part of a stabilized run like the other stuff designated with the "S" first?

Thank You.

I don't think they are a part of a stabilized run. S-TB is the normal designation for Star TeeBirds.

[davei]

Originally Posted by quickdisc

I'm looking for these U-Channel dividers for Innova Disc Golf Bags and it looks like everyone is out , including Disc Golf Values.

Any word if they will be available or where or who may have one ?

Thanks in Advance ,

Donny Olow
donnyotime@yahoo.com

Hey Donny. I guess you have to talk to Mark in the office. He might know. I have no clue and I am leaving for Japan tomorrow morning, so I don't think I can find out before then.

[md21954]

Originally Posted by davei

We will run Champion Stingrays at some point. What about the Champion did you like as opposed to the Star or DX?

thanks for the info. i'll be first in line for these.

the champs that i have are far more durable than the dx, slightly moreso than the star. more importantly, the champs seem to have a more consistent and controllable late turn right (RHBH) and can even be thrown very straight at mid-speed. the stars that i've thrown seem to flip over very quickly out of the hand at a wider array of speeds. i tend to favor max weight champ stingrays where others throw seasoned rocs. i do throw a champ roc when i need an overstable approach disc, but the stingray just feels more natural for a utility/mid-range disc.