Ask Hero about Discraft ( or anything else) - Page 63

keithjohnson · Feb 20 2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the_kid

So basically they were supposed to come out this Spring and the PDGA instead convinced Discraft to make the PDGA exclusive? Wow that was a poor choice if you ask me considering there are many players wanting an ESP version of the Stalker.

Good thing we were given 1 at worlds!

NO- NO - NO - don't go saying anything like that -they HAVE been the PDGA exclusive member disc for over 1 year now, and I was under the assumption, they were going to be for all of 2010 also - BUT maybe Discraft has made all the ones for 2010 - and they are going to make them production now - I DON'T KNOW and that would be a question for Pad Timmons at Discraft - I am NOT the one who knows anything about what Discraft and the PDGA have decided, and am basing my reply on what I thought to be the disc situation was.

Pad would know the REAL answer to that, and I'm sure you or one of the D players could find out that info and post it here.

Keith

the_kid · Feb 20 2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithjohnson

NO- NO - NO - don't go saying anything like that -they HAVE been the PDGA exclusive member disc for over 1 year now, and I was under the assumption, they were going to be for all of 2010 also - BUT maybe Discraft has made all the ones for 2010 - and they are going to make them production now - I DON'T KNOW and that would be a question for Pad Timmons at Discraft - I am NOT the one who knows anything about what Discraft and the PDGA have decided, and am basing my reply on what I thought to be the disc situation was.

Pad would know the REAL answer to that, and I'm sure you or one of the D players could find out that info and post it here.

Keith

I am waiting for a response from Brain and will post the gist of it here.

John Keith · Feb 20 2010, 11:26 PM

SO whats up with The Nuke, Is it all that and a bag of Cheetos ???
I heard Matt was chunkin them down at Pleasure Island?
Are they overstable like the Force? Glide? or more under-stable?
can you still throw in Wind?

JerryChesterson · Feb 22 2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvdiscpro

SO whats up with The Nuke, Is it all that and a bag of Cheetos ???

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvdiscpro

Are they overstable like the Force? Glide? or more under-stable?

Not overstable, flies with a nice S. Not a Hyzer disc.

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Originally Posted by kvdiscpro

can you still throw in Wind?

Tail wind = Yes, it is the longest tailwind disc I've thrown.
Head wind = No

John Keith · Feb 22 2010, 11:26 AM

ok Can you explain the difference of Cryztal plastic and Z, I like the Buzz and I seem to enjoy the cryztal more than Z, ???
Is cryztal more stable, is it the plastic? more grippy, durable? whats different?
are the flight charistiristics diff???

olsen129 · Feb 22 2010, 12:45 PM

so here is my input on the Nuke.....
CFR or Memorial Nukes are flippy and can not handle any kind of wind. They are super fast and can get a lot of distance but you just need have open space, calm conditions, and or down hill. My buddies who don't have strong arms really like this.

The 1st Run Nukes on the other hand are different. These can be thrown with anhyzer, flat or hyzer. They are controllable and I am finding out they manage moderate head wind well. Love this run. I am having luck with pink, yellow, and green. They are domey and max weight. If I were to compare this disc to another Discraft disc...think ESP Flash but better. The Nuke is a lot faster, with more glide, and good stability. I will still be caring the Force. Force is not as fast but I use it for too many shots. Especially strong head wind and big hyzers.

the_kid · Feb 22 2010, 02:49 PM

Looks like we will be waiting on the ESPs as Brian says they have no plans to make them since the Z is selling fast..............IMO the ESP would sell just as fast and they should probably make them but I'm sure they have a good reason (like PDGA noobs)

rickm · Feb 22 2010, 08:24 PM

cool thanks for the info guys. i have an esp stalker and i love it but i hate the fact that its black! .

tokyo · Feb 22 2010, 11:44 PM

So is the nuke like a katana in star cause I know the champs r stable and the pros are under but it sounding like the nukes are fast and understable into
any kind of wind

jmoody · Feb 23 2010, 02:57 AM

Any word on if the Cam Todds will be re-released?

John Keith · Feb 23 2010, 11:06 AM

Cryztal plastic, can any one explain the difference from Z ??
does it make the buzzz more stable? Why?

warlocks00 · Feb 23 2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvdiscpro

Cryztal plastic, can any one explain the difference from Z ??
does it make the buzzz more stable? Why?

I personally don't throw any crystal plastic, but my brother throws X and Crystal Z Challengers. He says he thinks the crystal is more overstable than the X challenger. Then I've got a buddy who throws crystal Z aveners SS's, says because they are more overstable than the esp. But he's using them for rollers. Not an exact comparision between Z and Crystal, but from the sound of it crystal is more overstable.

ChrisEads · Feb 23 2010, 01:58 PM

Is Discraft ever going to make the Force In Elite X plastic as a production disc where we can get them easily?

gotcha · Feb 23 2010, 02:07 PM

Dear Hero,

Since there is a speed of light and a speed of sound, is there a speed of smell?

my_hero · Feb 23 2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gotcha

Dear Hero,

Since there is a speed of light and a speed of sound, is there a speed of smell?

Jerry, Absolutely!

JHBlader86 · Feb 24 2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by my_hero

Jerry, Absolutely!

But how fast is the speed of love??

arlskipshot1 · Feb 24 2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gotcha

Dear Hero,

Since there is a speed of light and a speed of sound, is there a speed of smell?

That's how I knew you had posted on this thread, Jer.

my_hero · Feb 24 2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JHBlader86

But how fast is the speed of love??

The speed love varies from individual to individual. Some travel faster and can get "there" in less than 1 minute. Others travel quite a bit slower and it could take hours hours to get "there".

my_hero · Mar 01 2010, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olsen129

so here is my input on the Nuke.....
CFR or Memorial Nukes are flippy and can not handle any kind of wind. They are super fast and can get a lot of distance but you just need have open space, calm conditions, and or down hill. My buddies who don't have strong arms really like this.

The 1st Run Nukes on the other hand are different. These can be thrown with anhyzer, flat or hyzer. They are controllable and I am finding out they manage moderate head wind well. Love this run. I am having luck with pink, yellow, and green. They are domey and max weight. If I were to compare this disc to another Discraft disc...think ESP Flash but better. The Nuke is a lot faster, with more glide, and good stability. I will still be caring the Force. Force is not as fast but I use it for too many shots. Especially strong head wind and big hyzers.

I was surprised at how well the 1st runs Nukes handled a headwind. We had 10-20mph winds yesterday in Dallas. Happy to report that i hit the pan on hole #14, a 423' flat hole into a moderate south headwind .....that's Huge D for me into the wind....heck, that's huge D for me even with a tailwind off of a mountain top.

JerryChesterson · Mar 01 2010, 03:20 PM

I got a hold of a 1st run Nuke (versus the Memorial ones I've been throwing) and it was much much more stable than than the memorials. I promply threw it straight into the water when it Hyzer'd instead of Anhyzeing on my first tourney throw with it

the_kid · Mar 01 2010, 09:00 PM

I hit metal on a 455ft hole with my FR Nuke and threw some massive bombs this weekend including a 500ft hyzer into a head/crosswind that went 75ft farther than anyone else.

I am loving these things and was happy to see 10 more waiting on me when I got back home.

John Keith · Mar 01 2010, 09:10 PM

so question about Buzz's. I have a crystal buzz that I love, its slighty overstable but will and can hold any line i put it on, Its strong suit is not always an anny shot. Is an ESP Buzzzz more of a STABLE all around buzzz....for no to little wind???

olsen129 · Mar 02 2010, 09:31 PM

I have found ESP Buzzz's to be straight. The most stable Buzzz's are 1st Runs and the new Z Buzzz.

dehaas · Mar 03 2010, 12:24 AM

from my experience the esp seems to be about the straightest, i have a cryztal that was a bit understable (flat top and 171), and a flx that was suprisingly slightly overstable. i've thrown some of the domier z's that flew almost identical to a nice flat top wasp i have though. all of my buzzzes are in the upper 170's, so that's probably why my cryztal doesn't seem as stable. on a side note, what color first run nukes are people going nuts for? my local store just got them in, and i didn't know which people say flies the best.

John Keith · Mar 03 2010, 02:01 AM

ok Matt Ill buy some ESP buzzz from u, I want to have some strait buzzz and use my heavy crystal as my hyzer buzz

Webslinger · Mar 05 2010, 11:53 AM

Has anybody heard anything about a new limited run (100) of Sparkle ESP Memorial Nukes - silver with golf/rainbow foil stamps - being released this week?
I thought the Memorial Nuke run consisted of 1,000 (400 orange, 400 yellow, 100 white and 100 armageddon black) only. Any further news?

JHBlader86 · Mar 05 2010, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvdiscpro

so question about Buzz's. I have a crystal buzz that I love, its slighty overstable but will and can hold any line i put it on, Its strong suit is not always an anny shot. Is an ESP Buzzzz more of a STABLE all around buzzz....for no to little wind???

ESP is probably the straightest, with the X Buzzz turning, and then coming back, the D Buzzz just turning, and the Z Buzzz going straight and then fading. But I hear the new Glo Z Buzzz is very stable, more so than regular production Z Buzzz's.

John Keith · Mar 06 2010, 12:48 AM

sweet, I think teh esp buzz combo'd with the glow Z is what Im looking for, a strait one and then an overstable one...

JerryChesterson · Mar 08 2010, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K2ApacheRecon

Has anybody heard anything about a new limited run (100) of Sparkle ESP Memorial Nukes - silver with golf/rainbow foil stamps - being released this week?
I thought the Memorial Nuke run consisted of 1,000 (400 orange, 400 yellow, 100 white and 100 armageddon black) only. Any further news?

I have one and the info you stated above is correct from what I heard. I haven't thrown it yet but it sures looks pretty!

jmoody · Mar 09 2010, 02:47 AM

The nuke plus, whats the story? I hear they are more stable. anyone thrown it yet?

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Feb 22 2010, 02:49 PM	#1867
the_kid PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Livingston(Hicksville),Tx Posts: 7,285	Looks like we will be waiting on the ESPs as Brian says they have no plans to make them since the Z is selling fast..............IMO the ESP would sell just as fast and they should probably make them but I'm sure they have a good reason (like PDGA noobs) __________________ Southern Nationals - best events for players who like a true "Non-profit" and a real Finale www.Discraft.com

Feb 22 2010, 11:44 PM	#1869
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	So is the nuke like a katana in star cause I know the champs r stable and the pros are under but it sounding like the nukes are fast and understable into any kind of wind __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Feb 23 2010, 01:58 PM	#1873
ChrisEads PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 464	Is Discraft ever going to make the Force In Elite X plastic as a production disc where we can get them easily? __________________ WAFDA Tag #1 Pleasant View Tag #2 DAD TAG #2(Sugga Daddy)

Mar 01 2010, 09:00 PM	#1881
the_kid PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Livingston(Hicksville),Tx Posts: 7,285	I hit metal on a 455ft hole with my FR Nuke and threw some massive bombs this weekend including a 500ft hyzer into a head/crosswind that went 75ft farther than anyone else. I am loving these things and was happy to see 10 more waiting on me when I got back home. __________________ Southern Nationals - best events for players who like a true "Non-profit" and a real Finale www.Discraft.com

Feb 20 2010, 11:26 PM	#1863
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	SO whats up with The Nuke, Is it all that and a bag of Cheetos ??? I heard Matt was chunkin them down at Pleasure Island? Are they overstable like the Force? Glide? or more under-stable? can you still throw in Wind?

Feb 22 2010, 11:26 AM	#1865
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	ok Can you explain the difference of Cryztal plastic and Z, I like the Buzz and I seem to enjoy the cryztal more than Z, ??? Is cryztal more stable, is it the plastic? more grippy, durable? whats different? are the flight charistiristics diff???

Feb 22 2010, 12:45 PM	#1866
olsen129 PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 158	so here is my input on the Nuke..... CFR or Memorial Nukes are flippy and can not handle any kind of wind. They are super fast and can get a lot of distance but you just need have open space, calm conditions, and or down hill. My buddies who don't have strong arms really like this. The 1st Run Nukes on the other hand are different. These can be thrown with anhyzer, flat or hyzer. They are controllable and I am finding out they manage moderate head wind well. Love this run. I am having luck with pink, yellow, and green. They are domey and max weight. If I were to compare this disc to another Discraft disc...think ESP Flash but better. The Nuke is a lot faster, with more glide, and good stability. I will still be caring the Force. Force is not as fast but I use it for too many shots. Especially strong head wind and big hyzers.

Feb 22 2010, 08:24 PM	#1868
rickm PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: gtown tx Posts: 72	cool thanks for the info guys. i have an esp stalker and i love it but i hate the fact that its black! .

Feb 23 2010, 02:57 AM	#1870
jmoody PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 11	Any word on if the Cam Todds will be re-released?

Feb 23 2010, 11:06 AM	#1871
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	Cryztal plastic, can any one explain the difference from Z ?? does it make the buzzz more stable? Why?

Feb 23 2010, 02:07 PM	#1874
gotcha PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lakeview course at Moraine State Park Posts: 3,595	Dear Hero, Since there is a speed of light and a speed of sound, is there a speed of smell?

Mar 01 2010, 03:20 PM	#1880
JerryChesterson PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Shakedown Street Posts: 3,711	I got a hold of a 1st run Nuke (versus the Memorial ones I've been throwing) and it was much much more stable than than the memorials. I promply threw it straight into the water when it Hyzer'd instead of Anhyzeing on my first tourney throw with it

Mar 01 2010, 09:10 PM	#1882
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	so question about Buzz's. I have a crystal buzz that I love, its slighty overstable but will and can hold any line i put it on, Its strong suit is not always an anny shot. Is an ESP Buzzzz more of a STABLE all around buzzz....for no to little wind???

Mar 02 2010, 09:31 PM	#1883
olsen129 PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 158	I have found ESP Buzzz's to be straight. The most stable Buzzz's are 1st Runs and the new Z Buzzz.

Mar 03 2010, 12:24 AM	#1884
dehaas Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon, IL Posts: 107	from my experience the esp seems to be about the straightest, i have a cryztal that was a bit understable (flat top and 171), and a flx that was suprisingly slightly overstable. i've thrown some of the domier z's that flew almost identical to a nice flat top wasp i have though. all of my buzzzes are in the upper 170's, so that's probably why my cryztal doesn't seem as stable. on a side note, what color first run nukes are people going nuts for? my local store just got them in, and i didn't know which people say flies the best.

Mar 03 2010, 02:01 AM	#1885
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	ok Matt Ill buy some ESP buzzz from u, I want to have some strait buzzz and use my heavy crystal as my hyzer buzz

Mar 05 2010, 11:53 AM	#1886
Webslinger Community Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27	Sparkle ESP Memorial Nukes??? Has anybody heard anything about a new limited run (100) of Sparkle ESP Memorial Nukes - silver with golf/rainbow foil stamps - being released this week? I thought the Memorial Nuke run consisted of 1,000 (400 orange, 400 yellow, 100 white and 100 armageddon black) only. Any further news?

Mar 06 2010, 12:48 AM	#1888
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	sweet, I think teh esp buzz combo'd with the glow Z is what Im looking for, a strait one and then an overstable one...

Mar 09 2010, 02:47 AM	#1890
jmoody PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 11	The nuke plus, whats the story? I hear they are more stable. anyone thrown it yet?

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