Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 357

davei · Jan 21 2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by weaves

While we are on the boss topic. Why is it that the first runs champion bosses (star stamp and 2008 usdgc stamp) have significantly smaller mold lines than normal production champion bosses?

Sorry. What's a mold line?

two5twosix9 · Jan 21 2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Sorry. What's a mold line?

Flashing? I have a couple champ bosses that are super sharp on the bottom rim. This might be the "mold line".

LastBoyScout · Jan 21 2010, 11:22 AM

i believe he means the line between the top flight plane mold of the disc and the bottom rim mold. if you look, you can usually see a small edge of plastic that sticks out slightly near the beveled edge of the disc.

My first run bosses do seem to have a smaller mold line as compared to the initial production run bosses. The production bosses appear a tad thicker in overall height of the disc due to this.

LastBoyScout · Jan 21 2010, 11:45 AM

Here is a pic of the Mold Line.... and its from a Star Boss (only disc that I had here at work... a Man's got to take a break from time to time and chuck some plastic)

the small blackish/gray line is where dirt has collected on the mold line from the 2 halves of the mold.

mitchjustice · Jan 21 2010, 12:01 PM

I do not think that is what you think it is

DOC65 · Jan 21 2010, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Sorry. What's a mold line?

I think he's asking about the mold parting line between the two halfs of the molds or any inserts that may be used. The common man refers to these as mold lines.

Tim Red Beard · Jan 21 2010, 01:43 PM

Dave I have a question, is Innova currently running any Red or Green colored JK Aviar-x's? I have Blue, Black, Yellow & Orange. I need a Red and a Green one. Any other colors that I'm missing?

Thanks,
Tim Red Beard (TRB)

twoputtok · Jan 21 2010, 03:09 PM

White?

weaves · Jan 21 2010, 04:52 PM

what i meant by mold line was the small sharp feeling line of flashing that goes around the bottom of the rim (not the outside of the rim but the edge that is on the inner most part of the rim that the end of your finger wraps around). the newer bosses seem to have a sharper and more distinct feel than the first runs.

davei · Jan 21 2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weaves

what i meant by mold line was the small sharp feeling line of flashing that goes around the bottom of the rim (not the outside of the rim but the edge that is on the inner most part of the rim that the end of your finger wraps around). the newer bosses seem to have a sharper and more distinct feel than the first runs.

Bottom edge parting line flash. The mold is wearing, most like due to excessive cleaning. We're in the process of fixing those types of problems.

davei · Jan 21 2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Red Beard

Dave I have a question, is Innova currently running any Red or Green colored JK Aviar-x's? I have Blue, Black, Yellow & Orange. I need a Red and a Green one. Any other colors that I'm missing?

Thanks,
Tim Red Beard (TRB)

Sorry, don't know the current colors. We have run a light green in the past. Red is a little more difficult, but we will run that in the future.

joegraham · Jan 21 2010, 06:06 PM

Hi Dave. Are you making the JK-Aviars in R-Pro plastic, and when will they be out. I like the Aviar P&A in R-Pro, but want more stability. Also, great work on the Katana!

davei · Jan 21 2010, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joegraham

Hi Dave. Are you making the JK-Aviars in R-Pro plastic, and when will they be out. I like the Aviar P&A in R-Pro, but want more stability. Also, great work on the Katana!

Hey Joe,
We are going to be making them in R-Pro. They have been out for a while. May I presume your question has to do with the softness? We will be making softer next run.

junky · Jan 22 2010, 09:47 AM

I think there were pink JK's

tokyo · Jan 22 2010, 01:02 PM

Hey just wondering if there is going to be a signature avery disc for his worlds win? Also will there be a Niko roc for his usdgc win?

davei · Jan 22 2010, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyo

Hey just wondering if there is going to be a signature avery disc for his worlds win? Also will there be a Niko roc for his usdgc win?

Avery is going to have his signature on a Star Destroyer. I don't know about the Nikko Roc, but you could ask usdgc.

Furthur · Jan 22 2010, 01:58 PM

Rocs that depicted the winners in their stamped were created in 2004 (Battle Roc), 2005 (Kenny 4x), 2008 (Kenny 5x) and 2009 (Nate Roc). Since last year was the first year that they included a non Innova player in their designs, I could see a Nikko Roc. Plus, it would be cool if each year there was a stamp dedicated to the past year's champion.

two5twosix9 · Jan 22 2010, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davei

Avery is going to have his signature on a Star Destroyer. I don't know about the Nikko Roc, but you could ask usdgc.

Are the Avery destroyers going to be stabilized? Why not the excal?

davei · Jan 22 2010, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by two5twosix9

Are the Avery destroyers going to be stabilized? Why not the excal?

Regular unstabilized Star Destroyers. He wanted the Destroyer.

DSproAVIAR · Jan 22 2010, 11:29 PM

Dave, I have a mystery disc that I am wondering about. It is a 168g CLEAR zipper top marked VL. It has a *Innova Factory Second* stamp. We think it's a viking but I've never seen a clear viking. Thanks!

mf100forever · Jan 23 2010, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DSproAVIAR

Dave, I have a mystery disc that I am wondering about. It is a 168g CLEAR zipper top marked VL. It has a *Innova Factory Second* stamp. We think it's a viking but I've never seen a clear viking. Thanks!

VL, it is a Valkyrie

born2lose · Jan 23 2010, 01:36 PM

Hey Davei, how long before we can get the AJ one time Destroyer? I am looking forward to this. Thanks for your time.
-Jesse

davei · Jan 23 2010, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by born2lose

Hey Davei, how long before we can get the AJ one time Destroyer? I am looking forward to this. Thanks for your time.
-Jesse

Not sure when the first will be stamped, but we have the stamp ready for the next time we need them.

vadiscgolf · Jan 25 2010, 01:11 AM

Dave, those soft champ bosses feel great, no matter how they will fly. These would sell either way I think.

mf100forever · Jan 25 2010, 03:23 AM

Dave, do you have a preliminary release date on the new Roc?
What will the flight ratings be?

davei · Jan 25 2010, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mf100forever

Dave, do you have a preliminary release date on the new Roc?
What will the flight ratings be?

We haven't decided what to do with it except use it for INNColor, at this point. The flight numbers are the same.

LastBoyScout · Jan 25 2010, 04:04 PM

Dave,

Lost one of my proline (champion plastic) beasts down at the IDGC this past weekend.

Beautiful shot, bad tree stump, and splash goes the water....

Anyway, have you thought about bringing back the original beast mold and advertising it as the "classic beast"? Maybe even as a fundraising disc?

I have a dwindling stack of old mold beasts and would love to be able to pick them up from the store.

gokayaksteven · Jan 25 2010, 05:57 PM

orc is basically the old-mold beast.

Furthur · Jan 25 2010, 06:11 PM

They have old mold beasts here:

http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.co...-Street-Beast/

gippy · Jan 25 2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gokayaksteven

orc is basically the old-mold beast.

Yes but todays Orc is not Yesteryears OM Beast

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Jan 21 2010, 11:22 AM	#10683
LastBoyScout PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134	i believe he means the line between the top flight plane mold of the disc and the bottom rim mold. if you look, you can usually see a small edge of plastic that sticks out slightly near the beveled edge of the disc. My first run bosses do seem to have a smaller mold line as compared to the initial production run bosses. The production bosses appear a tad thicker in overall height of the disc due to this.

Jan 21 2010, 11:45 AM	#10684
LastBoyScout PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134	Here is a pic of the Mold Line.... and its from a Star Boss (only disc that I had here at work... a Man's got to take a break from time to time and chuck some plastic) the small blackish/gray line is where dirt has collected on the mold line from the 2 halves of the mold.

Jan 21 2010, 01:43 PM	#10687
Tim Red Beard PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Enfield, Connecticut Posts: 11	Dave I have a question, is Innova currently running any Red or Green colored JK Aviar-x's? I have Blue, Black, Yellow & Orange. I need a Red and a Green one. Any other colors that I'm missing? Thanks, Tim Red Beard (TRB)

Jan 21 2010, 03:09 PM	#10688
twoputtok PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa Ok. Posts: 10,360	White?

Jan 21 2010, 04:52 PM	#10689
weaves PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 45	what i meant by mold line was the small sharp feeling line of flashing that goes around the bottom of the rim (not the outside of the rim but the edge that is on the inner most part of the rim that the end of your finger wraps around). the newer bosses seem to have a sharper and more distinct feel than the first runs.

Jan 21 2010, 06:06 PM	#10692
joegraham PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 63	Hi Dave. Are you making the JK-Aviars in R-Pro plastic, and when will they be out. I like the Aviar P&A in R-Pro, but want more stability. Also, great work on the Katana!

Jan 22 2010, 01:58 PM	#10697
Furthur PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 776	Rocs that depicted the winners in their stamped were created in 2004 (Battle Roc), 2005 (Kenny 4x), 2008 (Kenny 5x) and 2009 (Nate Roc). Since last year was the first year that they included a non Innova player in their designs, I could see a Nikko Roc. Plus, it would be cool if each year there was a stamp dedicated to the past year's champion.

Jan 22 2010, 11:29 PM	#10700
DSproAVIAR PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skillet Posts: 2,506	Dave, I have a mystery disc that I am wondering about. It is a 168g CLEAR zipper top marked VL. It has a Innova Factory Second stamp. We think it's a viking but I've never seen a clear viking. Thanks!

Jan 23 2010, 01:36 PM	#10702
born2lose Community Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 53	Hey Davei, how long before we can get the AJ one time Destroyer? I am looking forward to this. Thanks for your time. -Jesse

Jan 25 2010, 01:11 AM	#10704
vadiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Grange Posts: 183	Dave, those soft champ bosses feel great, no matter how they will fly. These would sell either way I think.

Jan 25 2010, 04:04 PM	#10707
LastBoyScout PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134	Dave, Lost one of my proline (champion plastic) beasts down at the IDGC this past weekend. Beautiful shot, bad tree stump, and splash goes the water.... Anyway, have you thought about bringing back the original beast mold and advertising it as the "classic beast"? Maybe even as a fundraising disc? I have a dwindling stack of old mold beasts and would love to be able to pick them up from the store.

Jan 25 2010, 05:57 PM	#10708
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	orc is basically the old-mold beast.

Jan 25 2010, 06:11 PM	#10709
Furthur PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 776	They have old mold beasts here: http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.co...-Street-Beast/